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Day 21 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 9, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/09/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 9th, is DAY #21 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday was the first full day of defense witnesses. Perhaps the most significant of the first set were the two police officers who stated Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father, said on 2/28/12 the cries for help on the 911 calls were NOT Trayvon. Later in the day Tracy Martin took the stand and essentially said the two detectives were lying. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

What additionally strikes as important to us is the first signs of desperation from the original nucleus of the Scheme Team construct, Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks – attorneys for the Martin family. Parks appeared on Piers Morgan show last night and the video should be watched by anyone who knows how the scheme was constructed.

We accept that Mark O’Mara is conflicted in this case, and he is trying to walk a fine line between presenting a defense to a case built on political pressure and outright fraud; Yet simultaneously avoiding exposition of both the politics and the fraud itself.

The intentionally avoided open doors exposing the fraud creates anxiety for those of us who know what is inside the room he is avoiding. Our prayers are that his passing those wide open doors is based on prudence [within an unknown strategy]. However, our fear is the hasty and politically correct avoidance might cause him to pass by the room holding the key to George Zimmerman’s ultimate ‘long-term’ freedom.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrap up with a community/LEO preparation meeting today.

(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: george; kangaroocourt; showtrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: GRRRRR
Expert witnesses are always compensated for their time.

Hopefully the attorney's wife on the jury will make sure they know this!!

851 posted on 07/09/2013 10:21:49 AM PDT by Momto2 (I am praying for Israel...)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Does anybody here think that made a good impression on the Jury?

Yeah....I would be thinking she can't handle the truth.

852 posted on 07/09/2013 10:22:34 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Safetgiver

Thank you for giving me an answer. Experience always help in gaining clarity!


853 posted on 07/09/2013 10:22:43 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: JPG

She probably spent all of that by now.


854 posted on 07/09/2013 10:22:56 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

It is a good way to draw attention away from great defense witnesses. It is also transparent. I hope the jury can see what is going on.


855 posted on 07/09/2013 10:23:11 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I am not on the jury but I gotta tell you. I would be wondering why there aren’t any character witnesses for Trayvon. Teachers, coaches, school records, neighbors, pastors, friends could tell me a little more about this boy than skittles. The lack of this info is a pretty big matzo ball hanging out there and would make me very skeptical.


856 posted on 07/09/2013 10:24:04 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

No. That’s why it’s not in quotes. But she used a term equal in meaning.


857 posted on 07/09/2013 10:24:39 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Cyber Liberty

>> Does anybody here think that made a good impression on the Jury?

Well, to be fair to TrayMom, when you need a toot, you need a toot. And after that judgment, she can afford the good $tuff... the kind Hollywood uses, not that five bucks a rock ghetto kind. But when it wears off, the pull is strong...

I wouldn’t expect that particular jury to understand though.


858 posted on 07/09/2013 10:25:35 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Safetgiver

Not just the knuckles. In MMA and fighting, hitting with the bottom part of the fist is also quite effective.


859 posted on 07/09/2013 10:25:42 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: bonfire

Someone is floating around the net that Sybrina GAVE that HOA settlement to charity. Not sure if that is true. I have no desire to look it up, just curious if anyone had heard/read the same.


860 posted on 07/09/2013 10:25:43 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: don-o

perhaps she needs Depends!


861 posted on 07/09/2013 10:25:45 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Toespi

As a matter-of-fact........did the prosecution even mention he was in school, working, anything?


862 posted on 07/09/2013 10:26:33 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: PghBaldy

In previous cases I have watched, parents, family leave BEFORE the witness gets on the stand, or don’t come in if pics are going to be shown. That way, they are taking care of their own natural feelings without disrupting the court.


863 posted on 07/09/2013 10:26:58 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

She considers herself a charity.


864 posted on 07/09/2013 10:27:22 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Toespi

In the jury room, you tend to stick to the facts.


865 posted on 07/09/2013 10:27:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Toespi

Also, remember that in trying to locate Travon, dad’s first call was to juvi....


866 posted on 07/09/2013 10:28:21 AM PDT by Texaspeptoman (Even cannibals get fed-up with people sometimes...!)
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To: Toespi
character witnesses for Trayvon.

All they got for a case is "creepy ass cracker calls innocent black child an A hole and a F'n punk and then guns him down."

Because, dat be what dem creepy ass crakers always does

867 posted on 07/09/2013 10:28:23 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Toespi

Hmmm, I wonder. It seems the whole point of this circus is to shine the light on GZ, so maybe the idea of TM’s history isn’t on their radar. I agree that it’s striking that there are no viable witnesses to his sainthood, just not sure one way or another if the jury is thinking that way. It’s all manipulation anyway, it’s just disgusting on so many levels.


868 posted on 07/09/2013 10:28:24 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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The Martins could be interviewing to be the natural successors to Jackass and notsoSharpton


869 posted on 07/09/2013 10:29:01 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: MinuteGal

This case has Manslaughter written all over it. While there is little evidence for it, I think it will happen anyway.

Murder2 is an impossibility, but the jury will feel sorry for the Mom, who wasn’t really a Mom anyway, and they will settle.

The jury also knows that a manslaughter conviction will stop the riots, and don’t tell me that won’t enter into their thinking.

I think the best Zimmerman can hope for is a hung jury.


870 posted on 07/09/2013 10:29:13 AM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Toespi

I think she said....indignantly?


871 posted on 07/09/2013 10:29:17 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: PghBaldy

“It is a good way to draw attention away from great defense witnesses. It is also transparent. I hope the jury can see what is going on.”

Very transparent and considering the timing of her exits, I would like to believe the jury sees the connection.
She’s certainly a big enough woman that no one could miss her movement ;-)


872 posted on 07/09/2013 10:29:37 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: AppyPappy

I suppose you do, but as a mother sitting on the jury I would like to know more about this Trayvon guy. The only thing we have heard about him is he was with his dad, eating skittles, wearing a hoodie and that he doesn’t like creepy ass crackers. Like I said, a pretty big matzo ball.


873 posted on 07/09/2013 10:30:47 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

There is a Trayvon martin charity...maybe that one..

See Holly Pete’s Holly Rod Charity for how that can work.

ahem...

there is a site where you can access records for charities and their expenditures


874 posted on 07/09/2013 10:30:53 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Sporke

I don’t think they’ll pull manslaughter out of the hat. The strongest reason is that Zman followed TM. I don’t think that is enough for manslaughter.

Hung Jury if anything.


875 posted on 07/09/2013 10:30:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Toespi

The prosecution couldn’t present character witnesses because that would permit the defense to introduce evidence of Trayvon’s bad character.


876 posted on 07/09/2013 10:31:03 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Solson

She considers herself a charity.

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Now that is funny! True as well!


877 posted on 07/09/2013 10:31:16 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Cyber Liberty

After the first 12 times it’s probably lost the whole ‘too much to bear’ angle. At this point they probably see it for what it is, a diversionary tactic when the def is making serious headway.


878 posted on 07/09/2013 10:31:39 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Kansas58

thanks for that explanation


879 posted on 07/09/2013 10:31:50 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: Toespi

The GF testified that TM was going to fight. That’s pre-meditated assault. The Defense needs to push that.


880 posted on 07/09/2013 10:31:52 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: moehoward

especially since she has been the stoic mother..even on the witness stand


881 posted on 07/09/2013 10:32:48 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
Someone is floating around the net that Sybrina GAVE that HOA settlement to charity.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (pant, pant) ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Have you seen the way Traydmark's parents are dressed?

882 posted on 07/09/2013 10:33:07 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

She can say she gave it to charity but she is under no obligation to tell the truth.


883 posted on 07/09/2013 10:33:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: RummyChick

there is a site where you can access records for charities and their expenditures

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Yep, I have it bookmarked to guide me in my giving.

Just wanted curious enough to check on the truth of the claim. I have zero interest in anything the Martin’s do outside of this circus trial. Oh wait, that’s not entirely true, I do care what they do/did with Crump et al to get to this point.


884 posted on 07/09/2013 10:34:14 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Sporke

I agree that a hung jury is the best the defense can hope for. Some, if not all the jurors will want to go for manslaughter to avoid rioting and targeting of themselves.


885 posted on 07/09/2013 10:34:26 AM PDT by damper99
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To: RummyChick

Jury back in. Debbie has certainly run this trial one time. Gotta give her that!

Bernie on cross starts with an irrelevant question about who started the fight.


886 posted on 07/09/2013 10:34:28 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Nervous Tick
They did a great job of shining light on the injuries Z already got. I’d like to see them tie it in more securely to the injuries that Z FEARED he MIGHT get.

I moved into a new house and was upstairs in a bathroom putting in new shelf paper, etc., and somehow hit my forehead on a shelf. To use the term this fellow did, I was stunned. I saw in the mirror there was blood on my forehead. I didn't feel normal. Got in the car and drove to a near-by doctor's office and I didn't know any doctors there. I went up to the counter and told the woman I hit my head and couldn't tell how deep it was.

I turned and sat down and figured I would have to wait. In seconds, a nurse got me to the back for the doctor to deal with my head. I didn't have blood running all over my body or anything, but I must have not looked/acted right when I talked to the one at the counter. I still did not feel right.

The doc used butterfly strips to seal the wound so I wouldn't have stitches there and said if it bothered me after healing, I could go to a plastic surgeon to remove the scar. I didn't go back to working on the house when I got back home. I just rested. That's the only time I remember hitting my head and I definitely wasn't quite right immediately after that.

If someone had been beating my head against concrete, it would have to be worse than how I felt.

887 posted on 07/09/2013 10:34:50 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: spacejunkie2001
Emails go unanswered for hours/days(?), husband, children starving.

Men can make peanut butter on toast and survive. :)

888 posted on 07/09/2013 10:35:01 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: don-o

Bernie’s theatrics are waay over the top and I think will wear down on the jury as being a bully.


889 posted on 07/09/2013 10:35:34 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: RummyChick
There is a Trayvon martin charity...maybe that one..

Get money. Donate to a charity headed by....yourself.

Cha-Ching...No taxes! "Why thank you Mr. Crump for suggesting that. Here's a few dollars for you for setting things up for me."

Buy things for the charity like clothes, hairstyles, nails, shoes, cars, etc. All legitimate expenses doncha know.

890 posted on 07/09/2013 10:35:59 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Marcella

JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON MARTIN FOUNDATION (“Justice™). Justice™ is a non-profit organization founded by Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin

notice the TM trademark


891 posted on 07/09/2013 10:36:33 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

bernie trying to make himself likeable..


892 posted on 07/09/2013 10:36:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Cyber Liberty

How much did they get?


893 posted on 07/09/2013 10:37:29 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Solson

Bernie does sounds nasty to this expert.


894 posted on 07/09/2013 10:37:32 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: RummyChick

Cue the theme to “Mission Impossible”...


895 posted on 07/09/2013 10:37:36 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

BS....she’s chomping at the bit to go shopping.


896 posted on 07/09/2013 10:37:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: N. Theknow

The Kennedy’s will be upset if you cut in on their scam. Starting and being king of a new “charity” is a Kennedy rite of passage.


897 posted on 07/09/2013 10:37:53 AM PDT by bannie
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To: knarf

It was indeed “Puff”.

Jane didn’t get Muff until she hit puberty.


898 posted on 07/09/2013 10:38:05 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: RummyChick

Bernie is attacking the fact that he relied on only the statements of GZ and Good.


899 posted on 07/09/2013 10:38:31 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: RummyChick

Trying to make himself likeable, he has a very very very long way to go. It’s in his blood to be a bulldog/jerk.


900 posted on 07/09/2013 10:38:53 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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