Posted on 06/09/2013 10:49:40 PM PDT by Jyotishi
Just... damn...
The traditional definition of a police state is one in which citizens are arrested and placed in gulags or summarily executed for merely expressing discontent with their lives, which is interpreted by the authorities as somehow reflecting badly on them and therefore deserving of exemplary punishments. Thus, the gulags or the show trials and executions.
Typical Indian anti-Western BS. This stuff is simultaneously very typical of the stuff I hear from Indians and the reason why I think anything who holds out hope that India will ever be an American ally is either smoking something very illegal or just not paying attention.
“A peeping tom violates all the users of the ladies’ room, not just the object of his lust.”
Yeah, Udayan’s a trip all right. A bad trip. Purple prose and barely concealed hatred for America. Kinda like another guy, name escapes me....
And that reminds me. I’d like to be the first to welcome whoever at the NSA is reviewing this post, as well as my e-mails to Aunt Wanda about the weather.
India. I never really considered their cultural basis in regards to how they view the US, but being as they still believe some people are not human, I can definitely see there being a problem.
Your comment indicates shallow thinking. Obviously there are a lot of left wingers in Indian press EXACTLY SAME as in US.
Have you talked to any Indian business people lately? I have, and they are most certainly in tune with American capitalism & entrepreneurship. Indian business people are usually the most successful in many countries all over the world, including Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, South Africa, Caribbean countries, etc.
So in conclusion, ignore the leftist drivel by journolists and focus on capitalism & democracy. In those two regards the countries have a lot in common.
Pure drivel. Gulags were never necessary for a police state. Not in the ME, not in South America, nor in your (I suspect) beloved China.
I think it makes a fundamental difference in the perspective in which Udayan Namboodiri rails so vociferously against the US that he is decidedly not Christian. That he is Muslim, and all that the 7th century mentality and barbarism that being a Muslim entails, not one to hesitate to slit your throat, decapitate you slowly to please Allah, makes what he says a lot less academic in making his point with any veracity, credibility.
Not a muslim, as you would know it. Or as any muslim would know it, for that matter. Apostate.
Well, your veracity lacks a bit of knowledge. He is not Muslim. He is Hindu. He is also a columnist for an Indian News Org.
That allows him to criticize and editorialize... and his credibility is up to the reader! From some brief research, he seems to be quite aware of the world around us! Like most Hindu folk, they don't criticize other religions, as they are pantheistic...
I stand corrected. Thank you. My comment that he was a Muslim was mere speculation.
Seems to be only one way out of this.
While concerns about gov. monitoring of private individuals is disturbing, this guy is a Marxist kook. I assure you before the country had ever heard of Obama or we were killing Islamist murderers, he was conducting his own leftist jihad against America. This idiot hates America...period. Because it is not a Marxist state and not for anything we’ve done in the last ten years or whatever. The truth is leftists like him would love America to be a police state on his order...which would resemble Stalinist Russia.
It's amazing that there are so many knees jerking here on FReeRepublic! Ignorance abounds!
Direct quotes from the author, re : communism and Islam...
...Who believes this nonsense? The spectacular failure of the Indian State to recruit the support of the common man in the war against Communist banditry (aka Maoist terrorism) ranks as the lowest point in our collective journey towards great nationhood. Thanks to the shenanigans of the Srinivasan band, the lay public is assured of temporary relief. Until the next massacre....
-http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/oped/who-remembers--the-last-time.html
...Today, a lot of land and time has been lost to Islam. What were once the glorious civilizations of Gandhara and Uddiyana, are today both under Taliban rule. The gates of our civilization have been moved further east. Islam has taken over all our Western provinces. The beautiful art and sculpture of Gandhara and Uddiyana - these are lost even to the memory of the Hindu civilization and only those that spend their evenings in libraries know of that tragic tale.
So what is the storm brewing at our gates today? My own belief is that it is the Pakistani Taliban. Today, the Pakistani Taliban have taken over Swat. This is significant because for the first time the Taliban control lands to the east of the tribal provinces where they have always had free reign.
Left-Liberal Media Bias by Udayan Namboodiri, 2005
...A pronounced media bias against projecting news and reflecting opinions unpalatable to the left-liberal intellectual elite has been quite apparent to consumers of current affairs products, both in print and audio-visual, for some years now. This is not a phenomenon restricted to India. Indeed, the free Press of all democracies has manifested this tendency in varied forms since the late 1990s. The ceaseless caricature of George W. Bush as a war-mongering demagogue, the doctoring of “opinion polls” against him ahead of the 2004 Presidential elections and the unidimensional projection of the American Army in Iraq as modern-day versions of the Scutz Staffel ( Nazi SS) are part of a strategy articulated by the entrenched media elite of the United States to demonize the Right Wing. ...
...But the Left-liberal elite which controls the decision making levers of most media in democracies would like to deny even minimum space and time to publicize or defend our position. The characteristics of this craft are too well known for repeating here. But, if it is of any consolation, the Indian “Right-Winger”, or “Hindutvavadi” or downright “BJP supporter” is not alone. I myself would not have come to learn of this veritable “world war” against the forces of nationalism, family values, patriotism and the general spirit of traditionalism had I not read a book called “Bias” which was published in the United States in 2002. ...
Sorry, anyone who calls the U.S,. a police state is a kook...Marxist or not.
And it’s the same kind of “can do no wrong” knee-jerk surrender that brings things like the “Patriot” Act and the NSA citizen snooping, to life.
Show me where I approved all snooping by the government. But we’re hardly at police state stage. When people start getting arrested for criticizing the government, then we’re in a police state. The guy who wrote the article just equated the U.S. with the worst regimes in the world. Yes, rein in the oversnooping, but don’t call our country a rogue state because some idiots in government get a little too big for their britches.
By the time you notice government having established agencies to snoop on private citizens and society exhibits a general apathy toward the implications of the same, it’s already too late.
If the PRISM was a program run by France, you’d be ROTFLing calling the French all the things you heard the guy above calling the US.
If instead it was Germany, you’d be screaming yourself hoarse about the return of the Nazis.
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