Skip to comments.Rubio: Immigration bill guarantees legalization
Posted on 06/07/2013 3:33:14 PM PDT by jazusamo
Sen. Marco Rubio said Friday that illegal immigrants will get legal status no matter what happens with border security, but said the Senate will have to stiffen enforcement in order to win the 60 votes needed to pass his bill through his chamber.
Nobody is talking here about preventing legalization. Legalization will take place, Mr. Rubio told Univision in an interview scheduled to air Sunday.
First comes legalization, then comes this border security measure and then comes the permanent residency process. What we are talking about here is the permanent residency system, the Florida Republican said, according to the English translation of the interview.
Regarding legalization, a vast majority of my colleagues have already accepted that: that it must take place and that it must start at the same time we start with what has to do with security. That is not conditional. Legalization is not conditional.
As one of the eight authors of the immigration bill, Mr. Rubio is fighting to keep it on track, arguing that it does not have the support to clear a filibuster in the Senate right now. But he said it could earn that support if his colleagues will do more to specify where security will be enhanced.
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KILL THE BILL!
Attention traitor Rubio..........POUND SAND.
Marco, Marco, they don't enforce CURRENT borders, why would a new bill change that?
They only enforce the parts that result in more Democrat (legal or illegal, makes no difference) voters.
You should propose that we ADOPT MEXICO'S IMMIGRATION LAWS.
Nothing could be fairer to the illegal Mexicans than that.
I don’t put any faith in the word of Rubio, McC, McPain, Graham, the Bushes, Dole, etc.
Not interested in handing the country to the Communists for the next 200 years.
Enforce current borders? They’re suing the state of Arizona for enforcing laws. Disgusting.
Shut the Hell up, Marco, you jerk.
I hope they primary that POS RINO so he never gets another chance to screw up Amerika.
Rubio is flipping the bird at conservatives. In Spanish. What an asshat.
Something Rubio supports, BTW!
Yep, and he’s no conservative.
Kill the bill and deport every single last illegal under existing law. Then we can talk about immigration reform.
Why is everyone so upset? I thought conservatives agreed last November that lesser evils like this by psuedocons were OK as long as it was a guy with an R doing it.
Wouldn’t want to be evil ‘purists’ would we?
Et tu Rubio.
Oh HELL no sir!
That is not conditional. Legalization is not conditional.
You can BET that it is conditional.
The conditions are it will NOT pass and you will NOT get re-elected!
Those are the conditions.
Amen & Amen, they both work for me!
“Sen. Marco Rubio said Friday that illegal immigrants will get legal status no matter what happens with border security, but said the Senate will have to stiffen enforcement in order to win the 60 votes needed to pass his bill through his chamber. “
Maybe if Marco had a pair he would be courageous enough to advocate the D Word:
That happens to be the law. It’s what the cowards we elect to high office are supposed to do with the foreign nationals who ignore our immigration laws, no matter how long they get away with it.
Eisenhower deported a million illegals during his Presidency. But unlike the slick politicians of today Ike was a patriot.
Of course the real problem is that Marco wants to play ethnic politics.
And he sees a chance that he could become President if he floods the United States with his own ethnic group and renders the historic American people obsolete.
I think the lying, backstabbing weasel just did. These comments are going to go viral.
I couldn’t agree more!!
Lets hope so.
I used to think that. Not anymore. The PDS wars and all the Bhoner excusing/Rubio/Romney supporters here (to this very day) on FR means that either conservatism has been redefined or FR is a GOP stronghold.
In the last week alone I have gone at it with several ‘lesser evil’ types rabidly defending the concept. So apparently conservatism has changed for a number of folks compared to what it was even 4 years ago..
“...means that either conservatism has been redefined...”
Eric Hoffer, the Longshoreman Philosopher, once described the problem:
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.
Some of us have been around long enough to know what conservatism was when it still was a movement.
Keep up the good fight, Norm.
m want to. God knows I want to. I don’t think it’s wrong to believe in something and stand fully behind it...though that gets me and others derided as ‘purists’ (like that’s wrong?!?!?) But it sure would help conservatism if self proclaimed conservatives took their heads out of their arses and stopped capitulating and resorting to leftism while declaring it the conservative thing to do.
Even if this crap passes the Senate, I highly doubt this will pass the House. How many House members are willing to risk their political careers by supporting this mess?
And there is no way Rubio will ever become President. The base will simply not support him. Period.
And these illegals have committed so many identity fraud felonies that they say we couldn’t even reasonably expect them to remember them all!
Giving these unconvicted felons legal status is a massive, country-destroying amnesty!
I have no problem with granting illegals legal status...but.....any illegal immigrant must never have a path to USA citizenship open to them, NEVER!!! Yes, they can have permanent legal status as guest workers, pay taxes and gain employment, but are not granted any government or public benefits whatsoever!!! Children of illegals are a different story. They should be allowed a path to USA citizenship, but...only after the reach 21 years old!!! Then they must wait another ten years to file for citizenship. Reason, maturity, common sense and political nuetrality!!! Any Senator or House Representative that does include this in the final legisation should be voted out of office!!! Solid, enforced border security is number one!!! Rubio & Nelson (FL) I hope you read this, or one of you folks does!!!
Regardless of what happens, this statement might scare some people back to their home country.
I would change the metaphor from “Shooting himself in the foot” to “Showing his true colors.”
Shhh! Marco, shut up! I've got a bunch of my dumbass supporters convinced that my support of 'immigration reform' doesn't involve amnesty!
Rubio (above) says that legalization will take place in a bill to Obama’s desk no matter what, so he has to support it to make it better,
but he also says it doesn’t have 60 in the Senate until HE is convinced the border is secure. So which is it Rubio?
Weasel words. The language of choice in DC.
It looks like Rubio and Rand are playing similar games, ‘I am for it but not yet....but maybe if it ..’
I am convinced that they all the believe the Dems are correct when they say that the GOP cannot (no chance to) win a POTUS election unless they convince Hispanics that they are for amnesty.
Off year elections like 2010 and 2014 yes, but not the POTUS years 2008, 2012, 2016.
That is why we see Rubio, Rand and Ryan all talking amnesty.
But of course we know that supporting amnesty is no sure path to the WH, exhibit A McCain.
Meanwhile, I've seen two polls of LEGAL Hispanics that show them against amnesty by roughly 2-to-1 (60-32, e.g.).
Indeed, McCain was and is a full-blown amnesty zealot.
In fact, support for amnesty, at best, might reduce the GOP candidate's losing margin of Hispanics, but even that is far from clear. I think it is true that Dem POTUS candidates benefit from amnesty promises.
GOP share of Hispanic vote in POTUS elections since 1980 SOURCE:
1980: 38 percent
1984: 37 percent
1988: 30 percent (after the 1986 amnesty!)
1992: 29 percent
1996: 23 percent
2000: 36 percent
2004 (GWB's second term, in which he pushed hard for amnesty): The "official" number is 43 percent, but almost all the polls were under 40%.
2008: 32 percent
2012: 28 percent
The sad thing is, that’s the only appeal we make to Hispanics, amnesty. Bush, McCain, Rubio..., these guys act as if they just fell of the turnip truck themselves.
Appeal to Hispanics on opportunity. Touch on family values, good schools, cutting crime, lowering taxes, the provision of better jobs..., essentially the same things you appeal to everyone else for.
You can’t outdo a Leftist. You can kid yourself that you can find more goodies to give to a group, but if a person wants a politician who is going to gift them something, they’ll go to the Democrats. They aren’t stupid.
We’re pretenders when it comes to gifting. The Democrats are the real thing. So when we let people in who have nothing, who are they going to vote for? Us or them?
Look at those figures for Reagan. He granted amnesty and lost 10% of the Hispanic vote. That sad fact tells today’s politicians nothing.
I think if Obama signs an amnesty bill he will get all the compassionate credit for it and it will be assumed that Republicans ONLY went along to get more workers for their contributers the businesses (CofC).
There is much truth to that, and it fits with the 2012 Romney theme that the richer you are the more of a job creater you are and so the more important you are.
Plus Hispanics disagree with Republicans on plenty, if they want to talk about votes they need to talk about that first before giving more the vote.
” Meanwhile, I’ve seen two polls of LEGAL Hispanics that show them against amnesty by roughly 2-to-1 (60-32, e.g.). “
Thus, you prove the BIG LIE!
” I am convinced that they all the believe the Dems are correct when they say that the GOP cannot (no chance to) win a POTUS election unless they convince Hispanics that they are for amnesty.”
Yeah, Democrats are just showing how to win, because they really care.......
Can anyone explain why, under what CONCEIVABLE argument, it would be in our interest to provide these illegals with ANYTHING?
I seriously don’t get it.
Hey, what are bipartisan buddies for? LOL.
We should roll out a really bad immigration bill every five years, vote it down and move on. Not my personal choice to fix the problem but the best option that's do-able in the current political environment.
It's not in our interest, but the courts ruled we have to provide schools, for example.