Posted on 05/29/2013 8:12:16 AM PDT by Albion Wilde
...in return for $825,000 under an agreement that settles a long legal battle over the organization's ban on gays, Mayor Michael Nutter's office said...[t]he Boy Scouts Cradle of Liberty Council staff will leave its downtown Philadelphia headquarters of 85 years by June 30...
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Watch the BSA hemorage troops, leaders and scouts this year!
They are not doing this because they care for a majority of individuals. Worry about the majority for once. The minority doesn't set polices..well..we see that flipped backwards with Obama ..all of this that we see in which is happening is wrong because it is being manipulated from an orchestrated agenda by the left; to where their goal is policies and law writing/making. Let's be real!
Go back to NAMBLA where you obviously came from!
Question...how does a youth entering into the adolescent stages as are Boy Scouts know they are gay? Did they already have a sexual experience or do they think they are just gay? The % of gay scouts must be so small yet all this PC hubbub over this perved sexual crapola that has zero to do with scouting. Disgusted.
Zot for the Viking kitties!
Yes.....Philadelphia was
As some past articles when the lawsuits first hit (2008) have noted, Liberty Council did review a plan to move out to the suburbs to an existing building out there; one of the reasons they didn't want to is not wanting to abandon the poor urban youth.
The other thing is, losing proximity to the most historic area of the founding of the U.S.A. is a real blow. Scouts from all over the region could reach the Independence Hall and Liberty Bell easily. It just won't be the same, being exiled.
One of the drivers in Philadelphia's unique situation is that there are powerful gays in the city government who have been conducting this inquisition. They will not be happy unless they destroy all traces of scouting in city limits.
Here are a couple of background articles from that time:
Suit over Boy Scout Homosexual Discrimination Opens
City Hikes Boy Scouts' Rent by $199,999 over Gay Ban (Philadelphia)
Awesome!
He’s gone, so the line between brave and foolish may not be as far as you think.
But my son is in the scouts, and I can tell you that, for the most part, we have lost. The kids don’t care, they don’t understand what the issue is, they think it is stupid that adults are quitting because of the ruling.
They have been raised in a society that has actively promoted the gay agenda. You can tell them that homosexuality is wrong, that pre-marital sex is wrong. In my case, my kids are fine with that, but they still don’t see a problem hanging around with their gay friends.
Like it or not, most of us will have the occasional gay person in our midst. I don’t ask, I don’t tell. I don’t care. I’m not interested in other people’s sex lives. I wish the BSA had said “we aren’t interested in sex, so don’t mention it and we won’t ask” instead of actively promoting homosexuality as acceptable.
But there are gays in scouts now. I’m glad they didn’t allow adults who were gay — I wish they hadn’t allowed women to be in positions of direct authority over the boys, because that weakened the case against gays (sexual attraction).
My wife is a leader in my son’s troop, but in a non-interactive role (advancement chair). Having a female scoutmaster seems wrong to me. Having a gay scoutmaster is wrong.
But I’m not telling my son to quit, I’m not pulling him out, I’m going to support him as he works to finish his Eagle rank. Then I’m done with scouting. My church already has nothing to do with scouts.
My big problem with this chance, which I strongly opposed, is that now gay scouts can be open about it, which means they can be more aggressive, and worse, you could well end up with “gay troops”, where tentmates are both gay and how will you control the boys then?
I haven’t met many people who think it would be a good idea to allow 16-year-old boys to be in tents on campouts with 14-year-old girls — you can’t possibly supervise what happens in tents.
But now the BSA has embrased the idea that a sexually attracted 16-year-old CAN be in a tent unsupervised with the object of his attraction. I don’t see how that ever works.
Of course, this is the problem with “Gay” — it is unnatural, and therefore there is no way to make a “gay troop” where people are NOT attracted to one another. You could put one gay guy with one lesbian girl, and that’s it. You put ANY OTHER person with those two, and you have possible sexual attraction.
THe natural order gives us TWO groups, of millions of people each, with no sexual attraction. Boy Scouts is about many things, and NOT ABOUT SEX, but now it IS about sex.
B U M P
The Girl Scouts has been down the tube far longer. They have been pushing lesbianism and abortion for decades now. It's time they suffered the consequences.
Bears repeating. The wrongheadedness of National's decision is mind-boggling.
ROTFLMAO!
Goodbye troll.
The Girl Scouts were long gone by then, and yes, they suffer the same problems.
The irony is that the Scouts originally built the building at their own cost, and then GAVE the building to the City of Philadelphia for its use, in return for an arrangement where they Scouts would be able to use a portion of the building on a perpetual rent-free lease back from the City. When the City tried to kick them out they broke that agreement.
So what happened was theft, pure and simple, apart from the fact the City evicted them for unconstitutional reasons.
Wikipedia:
“The Bruce Marks Scout Resource Center in Philadelphia was built in 1929. The Beaux Arts style building was designed by architect Charles Klauder.[3] At the time city fathers invited the Scouts to move their offices to the Benjamin Franklin Parkway.[4] The building was built and paid for by the Scouts, and turned over to the city with the understanding that the Scouts would be allowed to remain in it rent-free “in perpetuity.”[5][6] The building is located at 22nd and Winter Streets.[3] The first copy of the R. Tait McKenzie sculpture The Ideal Scout stands outside the building.
This resulted in the Cradle of Liberty Council, Inc., Boy Scouts of America, v. City of Philadelphia also known as Cradle of Liberty Council v. City of Philadelphia, [2:08-cv-02429RB] which was a U.S. Court case involving the Cradle of Liberty Council versus the City of Philadelphia. The case was filed on May 23, 2008 in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. Judge Ronald L. Buckwalter presided over the case. The Boy Scouts were represented by Drinker Biddle.[7] The case ended with the court ruling in favor of the Boy Scouts of America that the City of Philadelphia illegally attempted to abrogate the Council’s federally protected civil rights.[8][9] Under federal Civil Rights Law, the Cradle of Liberty Council is also entitled to collect its legal costs (estimated at one million dollars) from the city’s unlawful action. While the Boy Scouts offered to then settle the dispute by having the City pay half of the legal fees in return for title to the building and the city accepted, the city council reneged. [10] On March 2, 2012, the Federal judge formally ordered the city pay all of the Boy Scouts legal fees and denied the motion for an appeal. The Boy Scouts may also continue reside in the building rent free as they have done since they had paid for construction of the building in 1929.”
That's in Iowa.
There are as many Girl Scout camps in eastern PA as there were when I was in scouting (long time ago).
You show a lack of understanding on what the BSA has just voted on.
The BSA will now present homosexuality as normal. It will be taught as normal in the merit badges - Family Life specifically. This is not a move of tolerance, it is a move of affirmation.
By this action the BSA has lost all legal grounds to limit its membership under the freedom of association clauses.
The Scout Oath and Law, are very specific. This decision guts them. My son said it best.... the only way to obey the Scout Oath and Scout Law now is to leave Scouting.
Thank you for your post. The newspaper article does mention an appeal, which the wikipedia article does not — the City must have picked some other kind of fight. Wish I knew more.
Bottom line: Philadelphia’s gay Brown Shirts appear to have won their fight to banish this laudable institution for daring to uphold its own freedoms under our Bill of Rights. So sad.
They have a dictator in the highest office of our land, and he is one of their own. He's a filthy [unladylike word], and he thinks everyone else should be too.
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