Israel threatens to strike Russia’s shipments of missiles to Syria

The Associated Press ^ | May 28 2013 | Josef Federman

[Cronos]

Nope, the facts are facts: in scripture Gog and Magog signify Turkey. Have you ever read scripture? If yes then you would shrug off your inaccurate cold war ideology. Have you ever read any history? If you had you would see clearly the Assyrian chronicles indicating that Gog is Gyges of Lydia. What’s that? You’ve never heard of Lydia or the neo-Hittite states that arose in Anatalia post the collapse of the Hittite Empire? Too bad. Do read a bit...

[Cronos]

From a better place than the televangelists you refer to. Scripture and history are clear that Russia is NOT Gog. If you bother to read, you’d see it too. One glaring point for you to note is that the symbol of Russia is the eagle not the bear

[Cronos]

Note that your inaccurate conflation of Russia with Gog is false theory while the fact scripturally and historically is that Gog is Turkey. Do read the bible for yourself and read history or indeed anything rather than a televangelist blah blah. In all of your posts you have not given any cogent argument to support your overheard false theories. On the contrary I have given you adequate biblical and historical proof that Gog is Turkey not Russia

[Cronos]

“i have read books on the end times” sorry but on this matter those books are wrong, utterly wrong. Perhaps you ought to read how through the centuries various folks were called Gog: Goths, vandals, Saracens, Vikings, Mongols, Huns, Magyar. The USSR was called Gog fairly recently. Yet gyges of Lydia, a historical figure was from anatolia

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks all for the Gog & Magog discussion; the biggest threat right now is from the DeMagogic party scumbags.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3024641/posts?page=12#12

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Netz.

Of course, there’s a back and forth did-they didn’t-they they-did they-didn’t going on.

The Russians are trying to keep Israel from getting more directly involved, and (imo) the Israelis have been bluffing the Russians to keep them worried about when and whether the IDF will behead Assad’s regime. This is a situation where Russia holds almost no cards, and (from the terminology of “The Big Bang Theory”) really hold just a handful of Enchanted Bunny.

The Russians know (in case they didn’t know before) that they can’t trust Assad, can’t trust Iran, and can’t trust the Hizzies — to say nothing of the many thousands of other combatants. They’re not exactly loved in Lebanon, either. Israel is their only option, but unless they can extricate themselves from Assad (IOW, assassinate him as they did their own puppet ruler decades ago in Afghanistan, thus bringing down the entire country on their heads), they can’t make deals with Israel.

Abbas is screwed too, and knows it.

Hamas is screwed too, and knows it.

Israel has also been keeping Zero on their side, and a bit off-balance.

The Hizzies are going to go the way of all flesh, probably sooner rather than later, and Israel’s success in denying the Hizzies those indirect weapons transfers from the NeoSoviet regime has bound the Hizzies even tighter in their role as proxies of Iran. Iran wanted their blunt instrument to have some stuff they otherwise couldn’t get, and the Hizzies wanted it (for somewhat different reasons) and that attempt failed.

A year from now the Hizzies will be worn down from feeding themselves to the guns in Syria, and losing their last grip on power in Lebanon — but only if Assad hangs on. Of course, if Assad goes, the Hizzies (plus the other thugs more recently arrived in Syria from Iran) will be left trying to maintain all-out war against al-Qaeda and everyone else capable of shooting at them, both in Syria and in Lebanon (and for that matter, Israel). The Hizzies can’t leave Syria with their asses whipped, but there’s no way to avoid that, short of a total victory by Assad — and that outcome is wishful thinking.

Iran’s supply lines will be stretched, and Iraq will turn into an inferno. Wouldn’t that be a shame?

This suggests that Israel wouldn’t care if Assad is overthrown.

It also suggests that Israel wouldn’t care if Assad isn’t.

IOW, Israel has options, and they will keep them open until it’s time to exercise one or more of them.

The US has options so long as there are no US boots on the ground.

Everyone else fighting in and around Syria, or aiding and abetting any of the numberless factions in Syria, are screwed. The longer that nation-sized pressure cooker keeps exploding, the better the prospects are for both the US and Israel.

And to all who are screwed in the meantime — screw you.

Thanks Netz.

[SunkenCiv]

I wondered what smelled like brimstone.

[Cronos]

So, your pastors are from this Obama university of theology that you refer to? Doesn’t sound very good. I’d advise you to junk these fake pastors who tell you Gog is not Turkey: the pasters you refer are scripturally and historically illiterate

[Cronos]

So now you see that your pastors and televangelists are utterly wrong about Gog and magog. So now go and read and see how much wrong they are on other matters

[Cronos]

In fact, if one reads scripture one sees Ezekiel referring to the end times affecting Israel in 600 bc with the Assyrians and other semitic lords destroying the land. It also clearly refers to entities of that time and place. Itakje it you have never heard of the hittites, Lydia, Macedonia, khorush, the neo-assyrian empire etc? I also see that you may not understand the references to Ezekiel either, correct? The good place for you to start is Ezekiel and in conjunction read about the post Hittite states of Anatolia.during the neo-assyrian empire. You can leave the mittani aside for now, that will be a future lesson for you

[Cronos]

hmmm... my mistake — I did initiate the conversation, but this was a civil post, pointing out why Gog/Magog signifies Turkey. Keeping in mind Erdogan’s push to Islamicize Turkey and to make it the renewed leader of the Sunni world, it seems increasingly apparent that this renewed Ottoman empire would be the one northern foes coming down on Israel.