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LIVE THREAD: Congress Begins Investigation into IRS Targeting
C Span | May 17, 2013

Posted on 05/17/2013 6:02:03 AM PDT by don-o

The House Ways and Means Committee holds the first Congressional hearing on the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) subjecting applicants for tax-exempt status to higher levels of scrutiny based on political leanings.

Witnesses include Acting IRS Commissioner Steve Miller who resigned on Wednesday and the Treasury Department’s Inspector General Russell George for Tax Administration.

Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) said the IRS' targeting of "American taxpayers based on politics is both astounding and appalling." He stated that the Committee will "get to the bottom of this practice and ensure it never takes place again.”

In announcing the hearing, Ranking Member Sander Levin (D-MI) said that it is "essential that there be a thorough and bipartisan investigation and effective remedial action.”

Since June 2011, the Committee on Ways and Means has been investigating whether the Internal Revenue Service discriminated against taxpayers based on political opinions.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bypassingscourt; citizensunited; dictator; discrimination; impeachnow; irs; irsscandal; liveirshearing; obamaresponsible; obamascandals; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; profiling; ratscandals; vanity
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To: maggief; penelopesire
I joined the hearing late, with DVR, so I am sooo behind the thread, but this exchange stunned me enough to transcribe the exact exchange.

Jim McDermott (D, WA)

JM: I'm reminded.... it's also about Republican storyline in this agenda. We need to find some truth here. And I've heard members of this committee talk about it.

The IRS can't access your medical file. Is that true Mr. Miller?

Steve Miller: Correct

JM: They cannot find out your medical information?

SM: That's correct sir.

JM: Their (IRS) job in Obamacare is simply to collect paid financial information on which a determination is made as to whether somebody can get a subsidy for their premiums. Is that correct?

SM: Were you covered and over what period is what we would be getting.

JM: It is not a fascist takeover that's going on here of the healthcare system.

And let's not forget that the IRS has one of the hardest and most hated jobs and their are thousands and thousands of good, solid, hardworking Americans who work every day to run the system.

And a couple of people make a problem. That does not damage the organization in my view. You get rid of the people who made the problem.
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I heard yesterday that under ObamaCare, the IRS is tasked with 47 discrete responsibilities! This requires an additional 16,000 IRS employees (and as we know even that number will be "revised.")

We can always depend on the radical leftists to tell the truth in what they deny

JM: "It is not a fascist takeover that's going on here of the healthcare system."

Note to self on McDermott: Posts 245, 250

751 posted on 05/17/2013 10:10:52 AM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: All
hey gang I got a bingo card about halfway done, I need about ten more squares

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752 posted on 05/17/2013 10:15:47 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: don-o

I was spitting nails, called my Congressional Reps office and had a “conversation” with a staffer. She said, today was only the beginning, Jack Lew will be brought in next week, “I encourage you to watch.”


753 posted on 05/17/2013 10:16:58 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: jiggyboy
You could turn it into a mat, like the "Jump to Conclusions" Mat.


754 posted on 05/17/2013 10:17:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Red_Devil 232

No, they’re going in exactly the right order. Notice that the tough questions are being asked after there are no more Dems in the order. The Dems don’t have any more opportunities to rebut or lead Miller/George into giving the “right” answers.


755 posted on 05/17/2013 10:17:29 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: jiggyboy

Great!!

Here are some more to consider:

Cannot comment, under investigation

Poor customer service

Bush’s fault

We need mo money


756 posted on 05/17/2013 10:18:53 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: jiggyboy

Needs something about not having enough money to prevent abuse.


757 posted on 05/17/2013 10:19:32 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: jiggyboy

Read it in the paper / saw it on tv


758 posted on 05/17/2013 10:22:17 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: lodi90
Yep. As usual, the Dems are not backing down at all. Fighting for every inch of turf,P. If only they felt that was about fighting terrorists instead of getting in bed with them!
759 posted on 05/17/2013 10:22:56 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: lodi90
Yep. As usual, the Dems are not backing down at all. Fighting for every inch of turf

If only they felt that was about fighting terrorists instead of getting in bed with them!

760 posted on 05/17/2013 10:23:18 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: jiggyboy

we need a bigger budget!


761 posted on 05/17/2013 10:25:34 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Toespi

Mike Kelly exchange:

http://www.therightscoop.com/this-is-very-chilling-for-the-american-people-rep-mike-kelly-unloads-on-irs-commissioner-in-awesome-speech/


762 posted on 05/17/2013 10:26:25 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: don-o

Glutton for punishment I am - listening to Dear Leader in the dredging plant in Bawner

Shout out to Elijah Cummings and his mama who Deal Leader said “prays for me every day”

Audience laughed. They LAUGHED at the mention of prayer!!!


763 posted on 05/17/2013 10:26:30 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Wow..okay, need the YouTube on that one, too!!


764 posted on 05/17/2013 10:27:22 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: All

Whoa: Did IRS ask pro-life group to disclose the content of their prayers?

http://twitchy.com/2013/05/17/whoa-did-irs-ask-pro-life-group-to-disclose-the-content-of-their-prayers/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter


765 posted on 05/17/2013 10:28:27 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: MustKnowHistory

Are you going to post that as a separate thread?


766 posted on 05/17/2013 10:30:27 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: tanknetter

Does Miller look like the guy who killed Richard Kimball’s (Harrison Ford) wife (Sela Ward) in the “Fugitive”? You know.....the one-armed guy?


767 posted on 05/17/2013 10:31:55 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: don-o

embarassingly, I don’t know how to post a separate thread.


768 posted on 05/17/2013 10:33:46 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: thouworm
They know damn well they are fascists. McDermott in particular was a boot licking supporter of the Baathists in Iraq.

MARCH 27, 2008 : (REPORT : IRAQI INTELLIGENCE MANIPULATED US CONGRESSMEN & FUNDED BAGHDAD TRIO TRIP TO IRAQ VIA IRAQI SPY MUTHANNA AL HANOOTI WHO RECEIVED 2 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL FOR HIS ENDEAVORS -- See BAGHDAD TRIO [JIM MCDERMOTT, DAVID BONIER, MIKE THOMPSON] ; HILLARY CLINTON, DEMOCRATS, LIFE/IRA/LRD, IRAQI SPY, SUSAN LINDAUER) --------- "The Three Stooges Meet The Butcher," By: Bob Parks’ Daily Dose 119 posted on 03/27/2008 9:19:12 AM PDT by Dqban22 | To 24

769 posted on 05/17/2013 10:34:19 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Toespi

“Jack Lew will be brought in next week, ‘I encourage you to watch.’”

This is great news. The IRS abuse of power story will get another exciting chapter. Was not Jack Lew the White House chief of staff before he took over Treasury from Geithner?


770 posted on 05/17/2013 10:34:30 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: MustKnowHistory

I got it. Thanks for finding it. FReepmail me if you want a tutorial.


771 posted on 05/17/2013 10:35:29 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: piasa

Demorats think that we who believe in limited government are the enemy as democrat Obama’s IRS and Obama oppressed us conservatives in the 2012 election to rig the election.

when will you all realize that we are in a war? the democrats have been waging war against us,conservatives,middle America for a long time now and we don’t even know who the enemy is.


772 posted on 05/17/2013 10:35:38 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: don-o

hanks for posting the Mike Kelly thread. Ignorance is bliss. Hah!


773 posted on 05/17/2013 10:37:03 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: Texas Songwriter

http://twitchy.com/2013/05/17/acting-irs-chief-agencys-targeting-of-conservative-groups-absolutely-not-illegal-video/

Hugh Hewitt @hughhewitt

Miller says it isn’t illegal for IRS to create lists to target Americans. Wow. Just wow. Well done @RepTomPrice


774 posted on 05/17/2013 10:37:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: MustKnowHistory

More Mike Kelly:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/17/the-scathing-speech-that-just-got-a-near-standing-ovation-during-the-irs-hearing/#ooid=dmdmlwYjr-nQ10rD8um56Gg2Y_IJO_je


775 posted on 05/17/2013 10:38:18 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: piasa

I remember that. During the run up to the Iraq war they flew to Bagdad to assure the American people what a good guy Saddam was and what a meanie George Bush was. Thompson was my Congress critter. A real POS!


776 posted on 05/17/2013 10:41:41 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obama; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: thouworm

APRIL 2004 : (MCDERMOTT IS EMBARASSED INTO RETURNING $5,000 CONTRIBUTION TO HIS LEGAL DEFENSE FUND BY SHAKIR AL KHAFAJI -—see SADDAM HUSSEIN, BAATISTS, BAGHDAD TRIO)

NOTE that his legal defense fund existed because he was the recipient of illegally taped recordings of a confidential call between Newt Gingrich and Boehner:

“In a 2-1 opinion, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia upheld a lower court ruling that McDermott violated the rights of House Majority Leader John Boehner, who was heard on the 1996 call involving former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
The lower court had ordered McDermott to pay Boehner more than $700,000 for leaking the taped conversation. The figure includes $60,000 in damages and at least $600,000 in legal costs.”


777 posted on 05/17/2013 10:42:26 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: MustKnowHistory

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3020724/posts

Kelly burns it DOWN!!


778 posted on 05/17/2013 10:42:46 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Thanks for posting!


779 posted on 05/17/2013 10:44:39 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: don-o

Did you folks know that the surname Miller originally came from Baveria, Germany??? This guy Miller does both Obama (Satan) & Hitler proud!!! He is sure living up to his Nazi namesake. He belongs in prison!!!


780 posted on 05/17/2013 10:45:05 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Elliot Gould, IMHO.


781 posted on 05/17/2013 10:45:20 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“Whoa: Did IRS ask pro-life group to disclose the content of their prayers?”

transcript in post 730


782 posted on 05/17/2013 10:46:16 AM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: dragnet2

Nothing suprises me anymore with this bunch. (sadly) Has ceased to be a Govt. by the People and instead a Govt. by the “sheeple” for the “sheeple”.


783 posted on 05/17/2013 10:47:07 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

“ad hominem” is kid stuff, come on. There’s probably a dozen freepers named Miller.


784 posted on 05/17/2013 10:47:20 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

??? Miller is English and Scottish/Irish. Like grain mill.


785 posted on 05/17/2013 10:49:06 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: don-o

‘Contents of that prayer please’. (love, the IRS)


786 posted on 05/17/2013 10:49:34 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: jiggyboy

Soon that’s going to tip over, just like Guam.


787 posted on 05/17/2013 10:51:58 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

You would have to ask Eli’s mama. Later in the speech when DL was droning on about how folks needed to live their lives, someone from the audience shouted out “Prayer”. Ma have been Mama again.


788 posted on 05/17/2013 10:56:46 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: jiggyboy; All

distraction- bring 1 1/2 year-old “fetus” to hearing. (yes, i am being sarcastic about the term that the anti-life uses and poking at Watt for bringing a young child to a HEARING)


789 posted on 05/17/2013 10:57:11 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: MustKnowHistory

that was awesome


790 posted on 05/17/2013 10:57:13 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: don-o

lol, someone “dredging” up prayer.


791 posted on 05/17/2013 10:57:53 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: dragnet2

Make it a buzzard, not an eagle.

Make it thorns and not an olive branch.

The scales are not balanced and one of them needs to be a $ and the other weigh a skull... as in SS skull. The $ weighs more.

There is no blind justice in Amerika anymore. Blind rage should follow.


792 posted on 05/17/2013 11:02:04 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: don-o

I missed it when it happened (had to go shopping) but I just saw Kelly on a Fox news clip and I am in awe of him. He was forceful and angry as heck. I love the man!! My hands hurt from clapping.

Miller made a snarky face and Kelly caught it and hammered him harder. God Bless Kelly.


793 posted on 05/17/2013 11:06:58 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: machogirl

Yeah but practice with him first so when he sees Miller or the IG, he screams “grampa, that’s the monster under my bed!”, then he runs and hides under the desk where Mike Kelly is sitting, ha!


794 posted on 05/17/2013 11:07:05 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

I answered the question asked.


795 posted on 05/17/2013 11:07:47 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: tomkat
Wonder how many of those frosh/soph Rs read FR or have their staff do so ? ! Some of those guys MUST know the rage that's out here !

If they don't know, here's some 'visual aids':


796 posted on 05/17/2013 11:10:44 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: jiggyboy

lol


797 posted on 05/17/2013 11:11:46 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: MinuteGal

“My hair stood on end!
(...even though I have rollers in at the moment).”

How many different stations can you pick up with your rollers?


798 posted on 05/17/2013 11:14:42 AM PDT by animal172
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To: MustKnowHistory

Bravo!. Thanks for posting!


799 posted on 05/17/2013 11:20:10 AM PDT by corkoman (Release the Palin!)
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To: jiggyboy
ok here's the new one, if you have ideas for better boxes go ahead and post them here, I'm not married to this. also I'm open to a better set of 5 letters for the title...

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800 posted on 05/17/2013 11:23:03 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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