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Benghazi's Smoking Guns
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 14, 2013 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/14/2013 2:24:42 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american

There's an arsenal worth, from testimony at congressional hearings to the State Department's flawed internal review to the four dead Americans.....

But it's worth remembering that Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton didn't get their information from the talking points. They got their information earlier and from much higher authorities, like then-CIA Director David H. Petraeus. The CIA believed the attacks were terrorist-driven early on. According to ABC News correspondent Jonathan Karl, when Petraeus saw the talking points, he thought they were useless.....

The president said Monday that he immediately referred to the Benghazi attacks as "terrorism." This is at best a brutal bending of the truth. He used the word "terror" generically in the Rose Garden on Sept. 12. And then for the next two weeks, he went on a media blitz blaming a video, including in an interview recorded that day with "60 Minutes." .....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghaziemails; hillary; libya; obama
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Impeach Obama! ..... Hillary's incompetence exposed!
1 posted on 05/14/2013 2:24:42 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: MestaMachine

Benghazi Ping.


2 posted on 05/14/2013 2:27:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Keep on Benghazi. I think AP wiretaps and IRS audits are a deliberate distraction by admin so we forget about what matters. That said, it is harder for me to get into the legal distractions. My mind is on security.


3 posted on 05/14/2013 2:30:46 PM PDT by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: larryjohnson

Obama will try anything to minimize Behghazi.


4 posted on 05/14/2013 2:33:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: real_patriotic_american

The L.A. Times is turning on the chosen one?


5 posted on 05/14/2013 2:34:01 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

They must see the Koch brothers coming!


6 posted on 05/14/2013 2:35:08 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: larryjohnson

Agree and will do!


7 posted on 05/14/2013 2:35:58 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Graybeard58
The L.A. Times is turning on the chosen one?

Man, you know full well the wheels are coming off when that happens.

wow...

8 posted on 05/14/2013 2:42:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: real_patriotic_american

ping


10 posted on 05/14/2013 2:59:00 PM PDT by hdbc (FUBO)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Bangedy bang, bang. Why is obama smoking guns? Is that why they had to evacuate the west wing?

Don't blame me. I just took my meds and I think they are kicking....in.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


11 posted on 05/14/2013 3:06:53 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: larryjohnson
Keep on Benghazi. I think AP wiretaps and IRS audits are a deliberate distraction by admin so we forget about what matters

What matters is the possibility that the Obama nightmare can be ended before January 20, 2017.

When the Democrats in Congress decided to go after Nixon, THEY WENT WHERE THE GREATEST LIKELIHOOD OF A CRIME COULD BE FOUND.

There is nothing about Benghazi (that we know so far) that is going to get Obama impeached and convicted. He got willing liars to lie, and exhibited his well-known moral cowardice and poor judgement. Even if the Benghazi hearings go on for a year, that's what they will find.

Now, the IRS and AP affairs, in the hands of a capable investigator and a legitimate prosecutor, will almost certainly reveal criminal conduct and may well uncover other crimes. These offer the POSSIBILITY that the moving van will pull up to 1600 before 2017.

If the House GOP stays with Benghazi, it means they are not 100% committed to getting rid of Obama.

12 posted on 05/14/2013 3:12:42 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: MestaMachine

LA Times, no less.

They’re starting to snarl. This is good. If I ate popcorn, I’d get a bunch of it.


13 posted on 05/14/2013 3:18:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Jim Noble; larryjohnson

There is nothing about Benghazi (that we know so far) that is going to get Obama impeached and convicted. -————————————

If the malfeasance was merely stupidity and incompetence and then trying to cover up the stupidity and incompelence with stupid incomepent lies, then you would be correct.

But there is obviously much, much more to this - they are covering up illicit gun running from all reports, and wanting all those men dead. So the Rs need to keep on Benghazi like pitbulls. Easing off is the very worst thing they can do. They of course can and should focus on the IRS and AP crimes as well. But they have plenty of people, then can do all of ‘em.


14 posted on 05/14/2013 3:29:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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The headline is telling us more than the story. Gunrunning, but classified and they can’t say it.


15 posted on 05/14/2013 3:43:41 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: little jeremiah

It is possible that you are right, but with Stevens dead and the co-conspirators overseas, this will be a very tough nut to crack.

The IRS stuff, if managed correctly (I know, if your Aunt had....) is a rapid pathway to removal, IMO, since multiple crimes have been suborned and the GS folk involved don’t want to go down.


16 posted on 05/14/2013 3:47:08 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: larryjohnson

Keep on Benghazi. I think AP wiretaps and IRS audits are a deliberate distraction by admin so we forget about what matters.

I totally agree. A look back to the Clinton presidency....
In 1996, President Bill Clinton personally signed an executive order transferring control of satellite technology to the Department of Commerce; thus releasing restraints on a wide variety of sophisticated space and missile technology which were then exported to China...the reported scandals involving democrat fundraising and Chinese interests, the mysterious death of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, the scandal involving the Loral Corporations’s alleged illegal transfer of technology under the direction of its CEO who was a prominent democrat fundraiser, suffice it to say that some of that guidance and control system technology wound up aboard the Chinese DF-31 missile.

Then, remember back in 1998 the press was hammering Bill Clinton about transferring U.S. missile technology to the Chinese and Dick Morris reportedly asked Clinton a candid question when the Lewinsky scandal broke. “Do you want to answer press questions about missile technology going to China or Monica Lewinsky? The Lewinsky scandal actually covered up the missile technology scandal!


17 posted on 05/14/2013 4:05:26 PM PDT by Grand
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To: Jim Noble

If Obama gave an rescue order and it wasn’t obeyed he would be leading the charge to find the breakdown. But he is not.

Testimony is that two stand-down orders were issued. If those orders did not come from Obama he would be leading the charge to find who did. But he is not.

If Al Qaeda was not involved there would be no reason to scrub references from reports.

An operation involving AlQaeda was compromised, personnel at the scene were expendable. A known false story about a video was pushed.

Is arming AlQaeda is acceptable?


18 posted on 05/14/2013 4:07:44 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Ray76

That’s some pretty good ergo you got goin on.


19 posted on 05/14/2013 4:20:49 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Ray76

Look, I wish Obama was not the President. I especially wish he had not been re-elected.

My only interest in all of these scandals is which one (or ones) can lead to his removal.

His bad judgement, moral cowardice, and Muslim sympathies are not going to lead to his removal. They just aren’t. Impeachment is a political process, and the 62 million who voted for him know all about those things before they sent him back to the White House.

Crimes will get him out. And there are lots and lots of them.

Benghazi isn’t one. Of course he gave stand down orders. They were necessary to further his stupid foreign policy of Muslim engagement. The lies were not perjury, they were told by more than willing liars, not under oath.


20 posted on 05/14/2013 4:50:44 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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