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Top 10 States with the Most Gun Violence
Wall Street 24X7 ^ | 04/15/2013 | Samuel Weigley

Posted on 04/15/2013 10:47:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/15/2013 10:47:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
This reads like a Brady press release. Even IF it's true, so what - price of freedom.
2 posted on 04/15/2013 10:51:22 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

I bet if you took out the cities that are Dem-controlled in these states, you would get different answers.

I’m sure there are some other factors involved, but without hard numbers in front of me, it would be irresponsible to state them.


3 posted on 04/15/2013 10:54:30 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s the Center for American Progress. Expecting truth out of them is like expecting not to be burned by molten lava.


4 posted on 04/15/2013 10:54:30 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SeekAndFind

And yet Chicago is the murder capital of the US. Or is it NYC? I am calling complete BS on this article.


5 posted on 04/15/2013 10:55:03 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and Democrat Talking Points.


6 posted on 04/15/2013 10:55:48 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is unfortunate that the WSJ would stoop to creating and publishing this article. It reports with insufficient critical examination a “study” that avoids basic factors any truly scientific study would consider. Specifically, there are no demographic data used in the analyses. I have no doubt the organization that is promoting this propaganda is using data to give a pseudo-legitimacy to their agenda. It is not research by any stretch of the imagination—it is propaganda masquerading as research. If you control for demographic composition of the populations in each state, what happens to the results—can you guess? And, consider the concentration of homicides in each state—could urban areas play a role-—can you guess?


7 posted on 04/15/2013 10:57:40 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve often found that liberal “facts” on ‘gun violence’ include suicides, justifiable killings by both citizens and police, and deaths in which a gun was merely present but not used.

More BS from the left.


8 posted on 04/15/2013 10:58:43 AM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Lets take New Orleans (Little Chicago) out of the Louisiana equation and see how it ranks.

Call total lib BS on this article.

9 posted on 04/15/2013 10:59:23 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: from occupied ga

Oh yeah this is definetaly fudged like a global warming report...

“2+2=5”
“hey, thats wrong”
“oh sorry, 2+3=5, there fixed it”

Liberals cried, moaned and whined about the Patriot Act. “I will not have my rights trampled because of a few lunatics!”

Does this article publish factual numbers about gun violence in our most liberal gun-controlled cities like Chicago? Or did I miss it?


10 posted on 04/15/2013 11:00:53 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

These propaganda pieces are just a small part of the socialist push. The socialists are hoping and hoping for another crazy person to go on an attack and harm a lot of innocents. It would be just the thing they need in this moment to push them over the top in their drive to forever destroy individual liberty through self-defense. It would be the jewel in the progressive crown of legislative usurpation of freedom.


11 posted on 04/15/2013 11:02:44 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: bk1000
Chicago has 500+ firearms homicides per year... and a population of 2.7 million... for a rate of 18.5 per 100,000.

Alaska has 700,000 residents. Their rate of 4.22 means they have 29 firearm homicides per year for the entire state... and this is somehow worse than the 500+ per year in one town (Obama's hometown).

Further, with 12.8 million people in Illinois, Chicago's murders alone put the state at 3.91 per 100,000... so the rest of the entire state, 9 million people including East St Louis, the worst city in America, somehow does not put them high enough to make the top 10. Mmm hmmmm.

12 posted on 04/15/2013 11:03:44 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: iacovatx
“...If you control for demographic composition of the populations in each state, what happens to the results—can you guess?...”

Of course these are the States with the highest percentages of Blacks.

What about North Dakota and South Dakota? They have laissez faire gun laws. Why didn't they get on the list?

13 posted on 04/15/2013 11:04:06 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: iacovatx

If you want science—John Lott’s studies are the gold standard in this area of public policy and freedom.


14 posted on 04/15/2013 11:04:10 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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Among the reasons for the poor grade are the fact that the state does not require a waiting period for gun purchases or prohibit the sales of assault weapons or high-caliber rifles.

The writer stated this in the last sentence with no source to back it up as if it were fact.

No bias here, no way....
15 posted on 04/15/2013 11:05:46 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Uh oh—you are starting to ask the right questions. Too bad the vast majority of WSJ readers will never ask those questions.


16 posted on 04/15/2013 11:05:52 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anything to deceive by biased groups.

A better “map” would be gun violence per county, coded red and blue per voting patterns. Also a map with and without restrictive gun laws, as well as analysis of how many are committed in ‘gun free zones”

Whaddya bet blue outscores red on the violence meter?


17 posted on 04/15/2013 11:06:39 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: SeekAndFind
As usual, the anti-gunners are counting all deaths from gunfire as gun violence, including self-defense shootings, and justifiable shootings by police.
18 posted on 04/15/2013 11:10:21 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is wrong with this data presentation:

1) no accounting for defensive gun use
2) no separation of data for lawful use of a gun resulting in death
3) no separation of data for dem controlled cities / counties
4) no accounting for overall violent crime rate (rape, assault, etc)

I could go on but this is cherry picking the data at it’s worst.


19 posted on 04/15/2013 11:10:46 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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G&A Ranks the Best States for Gun Owners in 2013

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/03/14/ga-ranks-the-best-states-for-gun-owners-in-2013/

for a comparison


20 posted on 04/15/2013 11:13:56 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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