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Angry beggar sets stranger on fire
9MSN Australia ^ | April 13, 2013 | ninemsn staff

Posted on 04/13/2013 4:34:52 PM PDT by kaehurowing

US police have arrested a beggar who allegedly set a man on fire outside a convenience store because he didn’t give him money.

The 37-year-old beggar reportedly approached his victim as he got out of his car at a California 7-Eleven store and asked him for money, US network ABC reported yesterday.

The 63-year-old man refused to give him money and walked into the shop.

When the man left the store and got into his car the beggar doused him and the inside of the vehicle with a flammable substance and lit it on fire.

"With the door open you could see the entire insides were ablaze," a witness told Good Morning America.

"He came out and he was horrifying. His entire shirt was on fire, his head was on fire."

The victim was rushed to hospital with third degree burns and is in a critical condition.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.ninemsn.com.au ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: areallyoldstory; crime; homeless; obamabeggars; obamanation; obamazombies
Life in Obama's America. Not that you will see it reported here.
1 posted on 04/13/2013 4:34:52 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

Politics follows culture, and our culture is in the toilet. Momentum continues in the wrong direction. The war was lost decades ago.


2 posted on 04/13/2013 4:40:15 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: kaehurowing

http://abcnews.go.com/US/denied-money-panhandler-lights-california-man-car-fire/t/story?id=18947401


3 posted on 04/13/2013 4:40:45 PM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: kaehurowing

I thought Trayvon was killed by Zimmerman?


4 posted on 04/13/2013 4:43:32 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: kaehurowing

This is ObamaNation now. If a freeloader demands your money, you better give it to him/her.


5 posted on 04/13/2013 4:45:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: kaehurowing

Long Beach, CA.


6 posted on 04/13/2013 4:47:26 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If a freeloader demands your money, you better give it to him/her.

Probably not. I will donate some semi-precious metals, though.

/johnny

7 posted on 04/13/2013 4:47:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Gold and silver I do not have but here’s some lead for your ass.


8 posted on 04/13/2013 4:49:10 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This is why it is necessary for Americans to never leave home unarmed. Our society is out of control. It’s full of Freaks Gone Wild.


9 posted on 04/13/2013 4:53:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: kaehurowing

What a cruel thing to do.


10 posted on 04/13/2013 4:55:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I don’t know why but somehow I am still amazed at what human beings can and will do to one another.


11 posted on 04/13/2013 4:57:39 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: kaehurowing

A “sense of entitlement?”


12 posted on 04/13/2013 5:07:43 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: kaehurowing

After seeing someone do that to another human being, would you, a witness to the crime, be justified in blowing the perp’s brains out? He was, after all, in the act of using deadly force against someone, and was even eyeing you or someone else quite menacingly, with his lighter fluid and lighter in hand, you’d say.


13 posted on 04/13/2013 5:07:51 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: kaehurowing

So what’s the angle here? Scenario A ? Scenario B ?


14 posted on 04/13/2013 5:11:23 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: kaehurowing

I bet the perp was black they seem to light people on fire
or at least most of the stories I have read about this sort of crime the perp has been black. I did not see much about the person who did it in the story I could be wrong it’s just a hunch.


15 posted on 04/13/2013 5:13:47 PM PDT by funfan
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To: kaehurowing; All

Photo of perp at link. He’s black...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308684/Horror-man-set-inside-SUV-homeless-man-refused-money.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


16 posted on 04/13/2013 5:16:47 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: funfan

Perp’s name is Raymond Sean Clark and he’s black

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308684/Horror-man-set-inside-SUV-homeless-man-refused-money.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


17 posted on 04/13/2013 5:18:16 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: kaehurowing

“Can’t we all just get along?”


18 posted on 04/13/2013 5:23:42 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: kaehurowing

the perp is black. Is the victim? I hope we dont have another hate crime here.


19 posted on 04/13/2013 5:24:39 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: jimbo123

>He was being held in lieu of $502,000 bail.

There should not be a chance of bail for this act. Slow torture or death, but never a chance to escape his deeds.


20 posted on 04/13/2013 5:27:12 PM PDT by soycd
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To: jimbo123

That’s what I thought. A few years back there was a man in New York and he killed his apartment manager in the elevator. He was dressed like an exterminator although his head was not covered and he sprayed her with a liquid and then set her on fire it was caught on tape in the elevator he was black.


21 posted on 04/13/2013 5:28:10 PM PDT by funfan
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To: FlingWingFlyer

In those circumstances, even if armed, I’m not sure if the target (any target) would have realized the danger in time...

Once you’re burning, it’s really hard to defend yourself.


22 posted on 04/13/2013 5:29:08 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
This is ObamaNation now. If a freeloader demands your money, you better give it to him/her.


23 posted on 04/13/2013 5:30:36 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Chickensoup

I guess you mean if the victim was black it would be a hate crime because he was made to turn on his own people by the usual nefarious individuals, who must be sought out and punished. That’s about where we’re at.


24 posted on 04/13/2013 5:30:53 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: funfan

And its obvious this black guy had been planning to set a white person on fire for a while. He had his matches and gasoline ready to go. All he needed was a white person to diss him to give him the excuse to light up a white guy.


25 posted on 04/13/2013 5:35:36 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: JRandomFreeper

Agreed. Pests respond well to high-velocity lead injections.


26 posted on 04/13/2013 5:35:41 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: kaehurowing

I carry everywhere and have hollow point for just such actions by these leeches of society.Urban outdoorsmen as Boortz would say.


27 posted on 04/13/2013 5:48:09 PM PDT by bikerman (Four boxes keep us free: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.)
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To: gorush

In the dark, a shovel of stars overhead for keeps, the people march.

Where to? What next?

... ‘course, that was a lefty sentiment from Sandburg, but everything stands on its head these days.


28 posted on 04/13/2013 5:48:19 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: kaehurowing

Related thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3007482/posts


29 posted on 04/13/2013 5:52:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: jimbo123

“I’m paranoid. But am I paranoid enough?” I’m not saying I could or would have escaped an attack like this, but I wonder. I sure would have been on the lookout for the guy. Maybe I wouldn’t even have gone into the store. Don’t know.


30 posted on 04/13/2013 5:55:08 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

everything stands on its head these days.

agreed.


31 posted on 04/13/2013 6:00:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: dr_lew

Just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean you are not being followed. Old joke maybe..


32 posted on 04/13/2013 6:07:09 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: kaehurowing

Give this despicable man the max, and he won’t have to panhandle again. He’ll get his three sops and a flop in prison.


33 posted on 04/13/2013 7:03:33 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: kaehurowing

The poor guy is one year younger than me and I am sure that I would not have made it through this attack.

While it seems that a firearm wouldn’t have changed the outcome, this is one more reason that I NEVER leave my home without my CC, NEVER.


34 posted on 04/13/2013 8:16:28 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: AppyPappy

Re: Silver and gold have I none, but here’s some lead for your a-s.

You are a true poet - thank you for the chuckle.


35 posted on 04/13/2013 8:19:48 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: kaehurowing

KABC-TV Chan. 7 Los Angeles:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=9063585


36 posted on 04/13/2013 9:00:57 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: RobinOfKingston
A “sense of entitlement?”

I wonder who is promoting that?


37 posted on 04/13/2013 10:06:01 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: funfan
I bet the perp was black they seem to light people on fire

A close family friend, white in his 60's, waiting at a bus stop not far from our home was set upon by several black punks. They doused him with some gasoline and set him afire. Barely survived. Third degree burns over much of his upper body, endured a couple years of skin grafts and therapy but lost use of one arm. He would often take my hand to his neck, telling me I was rubbing his ass because that's where the skin graft came from. White victim, black perps.

38 posted on 04/14/2013 12:04:50 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: LibWhacker
After seeing someone do that to another human being, would you, a witness to the crime, be justified in blowing the perp’s brains out? He was, after all, in the act of using deadly force against someone, and was even eyeing you or someone else quite menacingly, with his lighter fluid and lighter in hand, you’d say.

From another direction: After seeing someone do that to another human being, how could you, a witness to the crime, be justified in not blowing the perp’s brains out? He was, after all, in the act of using deadly force against someone, and was even eyeing you or someone else quite menacingly, with his lighter fluid and lighter in hand, you’d say.

39 posted on 04/14/2013 5:23:20 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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