Skip to comments.Senate Aide: Gun Law Wouldn't Have Stopped Newtown Massacre
Posted on 04/11/2013 7:44:45 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
Republican Pat Toomey and Democrat Joe Manchin announced a gun bill compromise to expand background checks earlier today. The legislation is in direct response to the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December.
"This amendment won't ease the pain ... but nobody here, not one of us in this great capital of ours in good conscious could sit by and not try to prevent a day like that from happening again," Manchin told the press at todays announcement.
But aides on Capitol Hill admit that there is not a thing in the bill that would have prevented the killer, Adam Lanza, from killing 26 at the school in Newtown, Connecticut.
Theres nothing in this legislation that addresses the fact pattern at Sandy Hook, a senior Senate aide told me on the phone.
The aide explains that the bill expands on the background-check system already in place, but that the system doesnt work properly.
They are expanding on a broken system that we know will fail, says the aide.
Under this law, Im told, Adam Lanza would still have been able to steal the so-called assault weapon that his mother legally ownedand use it to shoot up the school.
But what about a similar sort of massacre, I ask. Is there anything in the bill that would prevent that?
No, said the aide, who has reviewed all the details released of the bill (but not the bill itselfsince it has not yet been released). Nothing in the bill.
So how does one explain the legislation? Its clearlyCongress wanted to do something after what happened at Sandy Hook, the aide explains. They wanted to do something.
The aide tells me this bill is the first step toward a national gun registry.
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Too many stupid people. It’s not about guns. It’s about people whose “value system” allows them to murder.
Are they talking about fixing up value systems in the Senate?
It’s about FEEEEELINGS now.
[[Senate Aide: Gun Law Wouldn’t Have Stopped Newtown Massacre]]
It doesn’t matter- they don’t give a damn aBOUT protectign hte hcildren, otherwise they wouldn’t be attackign law abiding citizens- it’s all about violating hte secodn amendment and hte parents of newtown have fallen for it hook lien and sinker and we ALare now less safe thanks to the left
[[In a statement to the press, the National Rifle Association says that it opposes the new legislation. Expanding background checks at gun shows will not prevent the next shooting, will not solve violent crime and will not keep our kids safe in schools, says the NRA.]]
You forgot to post hte rest of what the NRA said- they said soemthign along hte liens of “They need to concentrate on MENTAL HEALTH Evaluations” ()Which as we have seen in NY means the govenrment WILL have the unfettered right confiscate guns WITHOUT due process and WITHOUT aNY actual mental health diagnosis- if you have been on anti-anxiety, anti-depressents, anti- psychotic drugs at
ANY pointi n your life- be prepared to have your guns illegally confiscated
And the NRA is su[pportign and pushign for this? Way to go NRA! Nice to know the people’s money has goen to protectign their constituinal rights- oh wait- no it hasn’t!
I have not seen this on any NRA web site, I have seen some MSM misquotes....
NRA’s full statement at the link;
[[We need a serious and meaningful solution that addresses crime in cities like Chicago, addresses mental health deficiencies, while at the same time protecting the rights of those of us who are not a danger to anyone.]]
What you’re failign to realize is that you do NOT give in an inch to the left- EVER- by makign hte statement that the NRA feels that mental health deficiencioes need to be addressed, they ARE opening up a HUGE hole by the left to violate our constitutional rights-
The ONLY way to word this is to state “We demand that peopel with a PRIOR DIAGNOSIS of mental health problems AND ONLY those that have been deemed a dnager to society UNDER VERY STRICT Guidelines regardign what constitutes a danger top society (otherwise you leave another HUGE loophole for hte left to exploit- deemign everyoen a danger with no strict guidelines) AND demandign that ONLY mental health evaluators chosen bty the families be used to make the determinations
Even this is a VERY risky thing to be proposing- Even if you could create all the necessary protective measures to ensure sane law abidign citizens will not be violated- the left WILL fidn a way to twist what is made law- hell- they are even twistign the very constitution itself-
The NRA should NOT be even suggesting that mental health evaluations be worked into ANY bill because we ALL know that when you do that you open up a HUGE door for the left to abuse the issue- look at NY- they didn’t even wait- they just began confiscating guns from peopel with prior history of anti-anxiety use regardless of the FACT that hte person is NOT a danger to society-
I have said it right from the beginnign when NY workled in the ‘mental health evaluations’ intto their ILLEGAL UNCONSTITUTIONAL law that we were doen for because hte right WILL keep comprpmising and compromising with hte left ALWAYS leads to a violation of our rights-
It’s liek rhionos goign on CBS thinking they can ‘do some good’- they can NOT- they will ALWAYS hurt our cause by givign hte left more legitimacy-
Now we have the NRAQ agreeign with hte left that mental health evaluations shoudl be a part of the bill?
We’re doen for- our consitutional rights WILL be violated- Hell- they already are beign violated in NY
“This amendment won’t ease the pain ... but nobody here, not one of us in this great capital of ours in good conscious could sit by and not try to prevent a day like that from happening again,” Manchin told the press at todays announcement.”
The only thing great about the Washington D.C. is its corruption & apatite for unbounded power.
As for the postulation that that they have “good conscious” I suppose only in the eyes of the devil.
I think that it is foolish to try and control “value systems” thou leglsation. I think its even more foolish to rely upon such such efforts to protect ourselves.
Over the last 50+ years we have proven ourselfs unable to control value system as our values have fallen apart due to these predominance of leftist in the media and public ‘education’ system.
I would not bet my life nor my liberty upon our ability to reverse that. We need a militia of the people to defend themselves. A citizen army of good men and women in every profession and public place capable of standing up to the madding element of our civilization as it spirals into self-destruction.
This is not a cop on every street corner(we could not afford that) but a gun in the hand of every upstanding citizen, preferably counselled(to prevent targeting). This is how we must plan to defend ourselves from such madness.
They want problems to continue, even to get WORSE so they can take MORE freedoms and MORE money away from the public.
Less than a month after the Stimulus was passed, there were already rumblings that it wasn't enough. Same with the tax bills passed to avoid the Fiscal Cliff. And the same with this gun bill.
Nothing in the bill prevents another Sandy Hook, Repubs say. And the Dems agree. So it's obvious they'll be debating this issue again soon, and from a much worse position freedom-wise.
Guess that's how imcrementalism works, right?