done this with liberals or Dem voters a few times .
If you are in bed next to your wife, the kids are in bed and two guys break in and come at you with a knife, at , gun what ever weapon they have, what do you do?
Would you not prefer to have a gun or let your wife have a gun to defend herself, yourself and defend your kids when you have 5 seconds before you are bashed to death or stabbed to death .
Always and I mean always get er er er HUH er er yes but we should ban guns
The reason you get the disconnect is that they won’t address their assumptions.
The sheeperals’ assumptions are humanistic, and the specific assumption is that if the society were “directed” to be a better society, then there wouldn’t be bad people (”sin”).
Of course, banning guns would, in their minds, create that better society, so there wouldn’t BE bad guys breaking into their houses. That’s why they can’t logically make the connection.
Address the assumption first. Then address the issue.