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Steubenville rape prosecutor confirms threats to her, her family
Trib Today ^ | 03/18/2013 | staff

Posted on 03/18/2013 9:52:27 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles

Edited on 03/19/2013 4:27:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

STEUBENVILLE - Jefferson County Prosecutor Jane Hanlin and her family had to leave town during the juvenile rape trial because of threats made against both her and her family.

Sunday evening, Hanlin confirmed that threats had been made, and she found them to be credible. Hanlin said there were instances of threats before, but the number of threats of a specific nature grew.

"As the trial date grew closer, we received a number of them that seemed to be more credible than others," Hanlin said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; mua; ohio; steubenville; threats
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To: butterdezillion
That has to be the stupidest logic I’ve heard in a long, long time. Some people choose to drink arsenic so somebody forcing arsenic on me is CLEARLY not murder...

Neither does the ingestion of arsenic prove it was forced, which is exactly what her defenders are inferring.

It may not be pretty, but this is what "presumption of innocence" looks like.

201 posted on 03/19/2013 10:44:17 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: papertyger

So you’re saying the jury may have been wrong, without having seen the evidence that they saw?


202 posted on 03/19/2013 10:44:53 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: papertyger

It does if the ingestion happens when you’re passed out.


203 posted on 03/19/2013 10:46:02 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: babygene

It is, in fact, illegal for a bar tender to continue serving an obviously inebriated customer.


204 posted on 03/19/2013 10:47:33 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Lakeshark

Apparently you don’t know what “sputtering” means, either.

As for “lying,” all it takes is a quote, sport.


205 posted on 03/19/2013 10:50:10 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: butterdezillion

“That doesn’t mean that guys should (either legally or morally) rape her when she’s passed out. Does it?”

Isn’t that what I said? Did I nor refer to them as evil?


206 posted on 03/19/2013 10:50:53 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: GeronL

“even if she is a slut, that doesn’t make rape okay”

No it doesn’t and I said as much.


207 posted on 03/19/2013 10:53:02 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

I just tracked back the conversation and see that your first post was that the boys were evil and should have gotten more punishment than they did but you thought the girl was a slut.

So yes, you did say that. I didn’t realize you had; it seemed like you were implying that she had asked for it by being drunk around guys. And I would agree that it is stupid to get drunk because it makes a person vulnerable. Still doesn’t mean she was “asking for it”. Would you agree?


208 posted on 03/19/2013 10:57:35 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: papertyger
Sputtering here means:

A poster named papertyger trying to explain why the girl who was raped is as guilty as the guys who raped her. Sputtering is a poster named papertyger trying to defend the indefensible, claiming a conviction in a trial is the same as the Zimmerman case that has not gone to trial. Sputtering is a poster named papertyger trying to not say something stupid..........not possible......

209 posted on 03/19/2013 10:57:45 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

“To get catatonic like that takes one heck of a lot of alcohol, or some kind of knock out drug.”

Actually it doesn’t. A person builds a tolerance to alcohol over the years. My spouse of 45 years for instance can’t tolerate it at all...


210 posted on 03/19/2013 10:58:24 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: butterdezillion
a person really get drunk within a minute’s time

Having done my share of power drinking in college, I can testify "Yes" to that question. Particularly if the person is smaller, female, an inexperienced drinker, and drinking something harder than beer.

Excessive Beer (or / especially wine) drinking usually hits slower, and the consumer winds up with their head in a trashcan before any serious damage is done. I suppose that you could get alcohol poisoning from beer, but jeez, you'd need to work pretty hard at it.

Hard liquor is different. Having had enough "Never Again" moments myself (Southern Comfort....shudder) I could see where this girl could have gotten herself into trouble. Especially if there was no one there to look after her.

I've carted my share of girls back to their apartments and roommates ("aw jeez, wildbill, thanks for bringing her home...I think") who thought that they could (or should, or whatever) keep up with either myself or other guys at parties. Fortunate for all of them that I'm a decent fellow, unlike this crew.

211 posted on 03/19/2013 10:59:37 AM PDT by wbill
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To: babygene

and I was reinforcing it


212 posted on 03/19/2013 11:01:37 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: butterdezillion
There were witnesses. As I understand it, the guy in the front seat (whose girlfriend talked this girl into going to the party in the first place) admitted that he videotaped 2 guys raping and sodomizing her in the back seat of the car.

That sounds more like a participant.

Be that as it may, are you as conversant with the particulars of the defense, other than "she didn't say 'no?'"

213 posted on 03/19/2013 11:02:30 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: wbill

Have you seen anybody pass out to a near-comatose state in response to one drink?

I get the impression that this girl may have done her share of drinking and screwing around before this incident, based on the reputation she seems to have had.

I wonder what the situation was with the other girl who says she was raped by this crew.


214 posted on 03/19/2013 11:04:57 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: babygene
I've heard that can be the case, but it's not the norm.

Whichever is true, drunk from lots of drinking, drugged, or drunk from one drink, the girl should not have been treated as she was. She was stupid (and none of us ever did stupid things at 16 here, right?), the guys took advantage, making her do things while she was catatonic, quite frankly a series of very evil things, and were subsequently convicted of rape.

215 posted on 03/19/2013 11:05:46 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: butterdezillion

Yep, I’d find it hard to believe that she was a “lightweight”.


216 posted on 03/19/2013 11:06:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: butterdezillion
So you’re saying the jury may have been wrong, without having seen the evidence that they saw?

My understanding is there was no jury. But apply the same question to the judge and I'd answer: most definitely!

217 posted on 03/19/2013 11:06:42 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: papertyger

I have not seen the legal pleadings and my computer won’t allow a sound card driver to be installed so I haven’t looked at the videos either. I only have what I can read, and I haven’t seen the actual pleadings linked anywhere. If you know where I can see the arguments I would appreciate being able to read them.


218 posted on 03/19/2013 11:07:51 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: MamaB; butterdezillion
the drug does not take long to work

I recently had a bit of medical work done and they gave me some "happy juice" (as the nurse lightly put it). I was completely functional. No memory of anything though.

Mrs WBill said that she had to chew on me during the trip home. We live maybe 10 min from the doc's office. I kept giving her the wrong directions on how to get back to our house. Finally, she said "Enough. Cork it!". I replied, "OK" and blissfully went along. :-)

219 posted on 03/19/2013 11:07:55 AM PDT by wbill
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To: butterdezillion
It does if the ingestion happens when you’re passed out.

Well that's the question being disputed isn't it?

220 posted on 03/19/2013 11:08:33 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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