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Jorge Mario Bergoglio is elected Pope Francis
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Posted on 03/13/2013 12:29:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SnakeDoctor
But ... born in 1936? He's 78.
I'll bet he's better at math than you.
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posted on
03/13/2013 1:03:10 PM PDT
by
Brown Deer
(Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
To: TomGuy
To: Venturer
Well was he a “natural born” Argentinian LOL
103
posted on
03/13/2013 1:03:51 PM PDT
by
nascarnation
(Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
To: wideawake
Some crank will find a way to shoehorn that fake prophecy into this election. Somehow. Argentina. From the Latin Argentum -- "silver".
Silver is a metal, dug out of rocky mines.
Malachy said that the last Pope would be Peter.
Peter comes from the Latin Petrus -- "rock"
Rock in a mineral.
The man from Argentina is the man from minerals/rocks.
QED
[/joking]
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posted on
03/13/2013 1:03:55 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
To: Catsrus
I dont see anything to indicate hes an American hee's from Argentina....Argentina is in south america.....ie:American
To: Ann Archy
Well he’s not pro-homosexual, and there’s already accusations of him being a lackey for Argentina’s anti-communist military junta back in the 70s/80s.
I doubt he’s the ideal Jesuit for places like say...Georgetown University.
To: Venturer
“His Father was Italian, can we assume his mother was also.
Doesnt that make him an Italian Pope who was raised in Latin America?”
He was born in Buenos Aires.
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posted on
03/13/2013 1:04:21 PM PDT
by
Batman11
(We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
To: SeekAndFind
Sounds like liberals arent exactly going to be thrilled with Pope Francis I.
From wiki:
Liberation theology
Bergoglio is an accomplished theologian who distanced himself from liberation theology early in his career. He is thought to be close to Comunione e Liberazione, a conservative lay movement.
Abortion and euthanasia
Cardinal Bergoglio has invited his clergy and laity to oppose both abortion and euthanasia.[3]
Homosexuality
He has affirmed church teaching on homosexuality, though he teaches the importance of respecting individuals who are gay. He strongly opposed legislation introduced in 2010 by the Argentine Government to allow same-sex marriage. In a letter to the monasteries of Buenos Aires, he wrote: Lets not be naive, were not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God. He has also insisted that adoption by gays and lesbians is a form of discrimination against children. This position received a rebuke from Argentine president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, who said the churchs tone was reminiscent of medieval times and the Inquisition
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posted on
03/13/2013 1:05:01 PM PDT
by
Lucky9teen
(Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
To: Rennes Templar
Generally means open to all things politically liberal to help the oppressed.There are the "oppressed" by liberal Western standards - i.e. men who like to dress as women and who are cruelly denied access to the women's public restrooms, union bosses who are being forced to stop stealing other people's dues, and rich kids who like to "occupy" other people's property.
Then there are the actual oppressed - Sudanese refugees being driven from their homes by Janjaweed soldiers, children maimed and forced into slave labor in India, Chinese people rotting in jail for preaching the Gospel, 99.999% of the North Korean population, etc.
There is true social justice and there is fake social justice.
Although Glenn Beck and Barack Obama may not know the difference between the two, I suspect Pope Francis does.
To: Stillwaters
Don’t know if you were paying much attention to this or have much interest, but thought I’d ping you to make it easy to find in case.
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posted on
03/13/2013 1:07:19 PM PDT
by
lonevoice
(Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
To: berdie
111
posted on
03/13/2013 1:07:38 PM PDT
by
berdie
To: SeekAndFind
This was so exciting to watch! The Square was jam-packed!
To: SoldierDad
Eh. Close enough. Sloppy math. Seems to me it’d be a better idea to elect a Pope who was in his prime.
SnakeDoc
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posted on
03/13/2013 1:08:12 PM PDT
by
SnakeDoctor
("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
To: Batman11
That doesn’t make you Hispanic.
Any more than being born in Rhodesia makes you a Negro.
It is a moot point certainly, but knowing Vatican Rome’s bias towards Italians it is something to ponder.
Did they take this into consideration.
To: Brown Deer
115
posted on
03/13/2013 1:08:57 PM PDT
by
SnakeDoctor
("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
To: Venturer
In that case 70% of Argentinians aren’t Latin American.
They’re a majority Caucasian country deriving from descendents of European immigrants, just like the United States.
To: ops33
My first thought was perhaps Francis of Assisi but you could very well be correct. francis xavier
To: Shadow44
To: Robert357
RE: Jesuits
Matteo Ricci was a Jesuit Priest who became a missionary to China.
He was a genius who could speak Chinese as well as read and write classical Chinese, the literary language of scholars and officials. He was known for his appreciation of Chinese culture in general, but did condemn the prostitution which was widespread in Beijing at the time.
During his research he discovered that, in contrast to the cultures of South Asia, Chinese culture was strongly intertwined with Confucian values and therefore decided to use existing Chinese concepts to explain Christianity. He did not explain the Catholic faith as something foreign or new, instead, he said that the Chinese culture and people always believed in God, and that Christianity is simply the most perfect manifestation of their faith.
Thus the Chinese Lord of Heaven (Pinyin "Tiānzhǔ") is identical with God. He supported Chinese traditions by agreeing with their honoring of the dead.
With this approach, Ricci was able to convert many members of the Qing dynasty court to Christianity (the Emperor Kang-Xi himself was very favorable to the preaching of Christianity in all of China ).
Dominican and Franciscan missionaries felt Ricci went too far in accommodation and convinced the Vatican to outlaw Ricci's approach. This gave rise eventually to the Chinese Rites controversy.
The Chinese Rites controversy was a 17th18th-century dispute among Roman Catholic missionaries, first originated in China, about whether Chinese ritual practices of honoring family ancestors and other formal Confucius and Chinese imperial rites were too superstitious to be incompatible with Catholic and Christian belief.
On one side, the Jesuits (e.g. Matteo Ricci himself) argued that these Chinese rites are compatible within certain limits and should thus be tolerated. On the other side, the Dominicans and Franciscans argued otherwise and reported the issue to Rome.
Rome's Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith sided with the Dominicans in 1645 by condemning the Chinese rites based on their brief. However, the same congregation sided with the Jesuits in 1656, thereby lifting the ban.
It was one of the many disputes between the Jesuits and the Dominicans else where in Asia, including Japan and India.
The controversy embroiled leading European universities; the Kang-xi emperor (China) and several popes (including Clement XI and Clement XIV) considered the case; the offices of the Holy See also intervened. Near the end of the 17th century, many Dominicans and Franciscans had shifted their positions in agreeing with the Jesuits' opinion, but Rome disagreed.
Clement XI banned the rites in 1704. In 1742 Benedict XIV reaffirmed the ban and forbade debate.
In 1939, after two centuries the Holy See re-assessed the issue. Pope Pius XII issued a decree of 8 Dec 1939, authorized Christians to observe the ancestral rites and participate in Confucius-honouring ceremonies. Later, the general principle of admitting native ceremonies into the liturgy of the church whenever possible was proclaimed by the second Vatican Council (196265).
To: fwdude
St. Ignatius Of Loyola led the Counter-Reformation.
His “Spiritual Exercises” are a masterpiece of Catholic, Jesuit and meditative devotion.
The Jesuits were anything but liberal in their fight against Protestantism.
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posted on
03/13/2013 1:15:10 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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