Posted on 03/13/2013 12:29:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Those are not the words Yeshua spoke, but what some translator translated them to.
Literally all of the NT is in this condition. Are you not intelligent enough to grasp this?
Yeah, that must be it. Jesus spoke in Hebrew, and they decided to translate what he said to Aramaic (which, according to you, no one spoke back then), and then kept in Aramaic when they wrote the Gospels in Greek. You should write to every single scholar who has studied the issue and explain to them that they’re all wrong, and that everyone back then (including Jesus and his Disciples) spoke exclusively in Hebrew. Oh, except the time that Jesus spoke to Peter and gave him a Greek (not Aramaic, God forbid) name.
So that you can stop rebounding off then walls and ceiling:
“The Language of Jesus”
By Douglas Hamp
ISBN: 978-1-59751-017-2
Remember Nehemiah?
Yep, they were Hebrew speakers that brought back the true worship to Jerusalem, even able to read the Hebrew scrolls, and of course the Edomites that had remained in the land never spoke anything but Hebrew.
There really never was any question.
If Douglas Hamp actually wrote that Jesus and His Disciples spoke in Hebrew, not Aramaic, with each other, then Hamp is in a distinct minority (not to say fringe) of scholars. It’s funny how you choose to ignore the dozens of more prominent Biblical scholars (James Dunn, James Barr, etc.) who assert that he spoke Aramaic, and that you risibly claim that when He is quoted in the Gospels as speaking in Aramaic that it was translated from Hebrew into Aramaic by those writing in Greek.
And, of course, to return to the reason why you decided to troll this thread in the first place, you believe that Jesus spoke exclusively in Hebrew with His Disciples yet chose to give Simon the Greek name Petros. Anything to avoid admitting that He named Simon “Cephas,” which is Aramaic for “Rock.”
Yes, there never was any question, which is why the early Christians accepted St. Peter as the leader of the Church. But if you prefer to believe histprical revisionism about what Jesus said, you should at least know what language He spoke.
I’ll waste no more time trying to educate you.
>> “If Douglas Hamp actually wrote that Jesus and His Disciples spoke in Hebrew, not Aramaic, with each other, then Hamp is in a distinct minority (not to say fringe) of scholars.” <<
Perhaps you use the term “scholars” too loosely.
Papias, (AD 60 - 130) Flatly declared that all of the first writings of the NT were in Hebrew.
The following is a ten part video on the subject, sponsored by Rood, but conducted by Nehemia Gordon, a Karaite Jewish scholar. He demonstrates that the gospel of Matthew had to have been written in Hebrew, and possibly translated to Aramaic with great difficulty by the author, and much later translated to Greek by Greek scholars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka-JKIVMbic
Episode 8 is the most interesting of them but all are quite edifying.
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