Posted on 03/08/2013 5:58:31 AM PST by EXCH54FE
Certainly there are those who see a conspiracy behind every tree, none more so perhaps than Mac Slavo. Writing for his inelegantly named SHTF Plan, he points out that since President Obama was first elected in 2008, Americans have purchased more than 65 million guns, which averages one new gun purchase every 1.5 seconds. Says Slavo, this “suggests there is much more … than just people stocking up to go hunting or sports shooting.” And then, without providing sources, Slavo ticks off the statistics: Smith and Wesson is running at full capacity, Ruger is ramping up production to meet demand, Armalite is “maxed out,” Colt is increasing its production runs, Springfield Armory is “running 30-45 days behind,” while Magpul “is behind 1 MILLION (his bold) mags.… Do not expect any large quantities anytime soon.”
If the information you hear doesn't originate from Hornady Manufacturing, don’t believe it.
Here are some of rumors we've heard, and questions we've received:
•Have you stopped production, or has the government forced you to stop?
◦Not at all.
•Did you stop selling bullets so you could only make loaded ammunition?
◦Absolutely not.
•Since we can’t find your product you must be selling it all to the government.
◦Nope, less than 5% of our sales are to government entities.
•Why can’t you make more? Ramp up production? Turn on all the machines?
◦ We've been steadily growing our production for a long time, especially the last five years. We've added presses, lathes, CNC equipment, people and space. Many popular items are produced 24 hours a day.
We are producing as much as we can; much more than last year, which was a lot more than the year before, etc. No one wants to ship more during this time than we do.
(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...
Why the need to lie then? Why insinuate that another reason for layoffs was a drop in demand? Did that not raise one flag for you?
““New American” has a nice progressive sound to it...”
Um, it shouldn’t. It’s published by the John Birch Society.
My wife and daughter had the same problem with semi pistols. Not enough finger/hand strength to rack the slide. For their basic handgun course, I let them use two of my revolvers - the wife a 38+P Model 10 S&W, and my daughter absolutely had to use the S&W 686 357 Magnum. Both of them scored very very well in the 200 rd range qualification part of the training. My daughter conned me out of the 686 and we go every Tuesday to the range (lady's day).....she can group a set of shots at 60 ft that impresses everyone there. She's young, steady and not afraid of the revolver at all - a real deadeye.
Meaning ‘hazardous materials’.
Ammo is shipped as ‘hazardous materials’ classified that way by the frieght company themselves and charged extra fees.
Ask Montana about a “license to manufacture.”
380 is a round that is low-powered enough to have a fixed barrel. Frames with fixed barrels are very cheap to manufacter as opposed to floating barrels in bigger calibers.
These fixed barreled frames with low energy rounds means they can built them smaller and cheaper. Excellent criteria for concealed carry.
The reason .380 is popular is because its not a .22
hey, I have five 380s and love them all.
Like I said, as a government owned plant dedicated to a single customer (the U.S. military and primarily the U.S. Army). That demand could very easily have dropped off.
Lake City is not driven by the commercial customer, because they don't contract directly for delivery. Lake City product that ends up on the market is surplus, which I believe is sold to wholesalers by the military, not by Lake City. In short, if US Army demand is down, demand for Lake City ammo is down.
Another point would be that automation of manufacture does not effect everyone in the plant. For example, the folks loading the trucks have the same job as before, if their process wasn’t automated.
However, if demand also dropped off, then you are letting workers go from the newly automated manufacturing line and the unautomted shipping department.
Now I know there are drops in capacity in second tier ammunition plants that specialize in once fired ammo. The reason they give, and I believe them, is that they can’t get enough empty brass (people aren’t shooting the product) and the primers, bullets, and powder suppliers can’t fill their orders. These folks weren’t buying on ongoing contracts like the big plants were and now find themselves at the back of the line, just like you and me.
Quit whining!
When the SHTF, those with supplies will be able to determine nearby patriots in need.
I don’t know of any in your situation today and who would go public, looking for you!
That would only invite trouble.
So, let me get this straight. Because some folks have prepared ahead of time, with their own money, you're saying they're as bad as the government? At the same time, you're calling for these people who are as bad as the goverment to hand out their rightly purchased ammunition to those who didn't think ahead, free of charge?
Are you certain you're on the right forum?
Thank you for the warning. I read the reviews at CTD, so I knew before I bought. For an old bolt-action rifle it should be fine, I think.
The facility is government owned and the customer is the government. Lake City ammo that is available has been sold as surplus by the government.
The article didn't say they shut down. It said they had automated, had smaller orders to fill, and were laying off workers.
I also purchase water and food before hurricanes. How much of that do you feel entitled to?
Look friend, you were as free to purchase ammunition as I was, when I was purchasing it. It appears that I did and you didn’t.
Ammunition is likely going to come back down. Are you going to stock up when it does, or expect me to do it for you?
I think Hi-Point has fixed barrels in their .45s. You just have to add a lot of weight of inertia.
Say what you will about a Hi-Point, but I sure don't want to get pistol whipped with one.
When tshtf there will be ammo available, from either compatriots or enemies. But I would not just complain, if no ammo improvise something else.
A lot of the ammo is being bought by non shooters. They are investing in it, just like they bought into the Beanie Baby craze.
Comparing the tea party to the Birchers is not accurate.
The tea party is sane and effective and engaged in real life conservatism with real life, effective political leaders and hopes for a presidency.
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