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Democratic governors fear gun reform moment has passed
Politico ^ | 28 feb 13 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 03/01/2013 7:37:55 AM PST by Drew68

Gun-control advocates hoped the shattering December murder of 20 first-graders in Newtown, Conn., would upend the de facto non-aggression pact on federal gun laws that both political parties have consented to in the last decade. But now that expanded background checks seem to be the only initiative that may pass Congress, the most powerful bloc of gun-control proponents in the country is conceding that the gripping sense of outrage following the Sandy Hook massacre has ebbed.

Democratic governors fault Washington lawmakers for not acting more aggressively but, more strikingly, some even point a finger at Americans themselves for not keeping up the pressure on elected officials.

“I think the public outrage at this has somewhat waned and that makes the consensus harder to achieve,” said Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, adding: “[S]adly, after the funerals, for too many of us as Americans, our attention turns to other things and that makes it harder to achieve the consensus, and nothing moves terribly fast in Washington anyway.”

O’Malley, who has been one of the loudest voices for gun restrictions, recalled that he and former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell both predicted after Sandy Hook that there would be a reinstatement of the assault weapons ban within six months.

“It hasn’t happened,” said O’Malley.

Oregon Gov. John Kitzhaber, who was also governor in the 1990s during similar shooting sprees, also cited the now-familiar pattern of demands for action abating as the months pass following the tragedies and pro-gun forces mount aggressive lobbying campaigns.

“The same thing happened after Columbine, same thing happened after Thurston in Oregon a number of years ago: there’s this big coverage peak, people get outraged and a few days later the anti-gun control people begin to emerge and then there’s a distance,” Kitzhaber said. Asked whether the federal government is falling short on the gun issue, Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy shot back: “Sure it is. Sure it has.”

“We had a workable [assault weapons] ban, right?” Malloy continued. “We had a magazine size limitation. And in 2004 when it needed to be renewed, it was not renewed. So yeah, clearly we let a lot of people down as a nation.” Now, even the most optimistic gun-control backers will concede it’s highly unlikely that any legislation limiting the sale of particular weapons could get out of the Senate let alone come to a vote in the House. That’s partly because the passage of time since Newtown has diminished the demand for action – but it’s also because there remains a robust core of Second Amendment supporters who are effective at making their voices heard with lawmakers.

O’Malley, a former Baltimore mayor, compared the efforts of the two sides in his own heavily suburban and urban state, where there’s broad public support overall for gun restrictions but also a vocal element opposing such steps.

“We’re calling people together for a rally in Annapolis this Friday for sensible gun safety legislation,” he said. “It’s going OK, but it doesn’t happen by itself. Whereas the NRA is a group that’s networked and now hyper-networked with the Internet, and was able to generate a giant crowd … They’re very effective with the small group of people who feel intensely about this.” The gun-rights group has just as much sway in Washington, as the difference between what, legislatively, seems possible now as compared to in the days immediately following Newtown.

In an effort to show Congress that the NRA doesn’t have always have the political upper hand, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has begun spending money on pro-gun-control candidates and won a victory Tuesday against a pro-NRA Democrat in a Chicago-area House district. He promises to do more of the same in 2014.

But governors aren’t waiting on the Beltway politics of guns to change.

So, instead of waiting on piecemeal legislation from Washington, some Democratic governors are moving to implement firearms restrictions in their own states that almost certainly could never pass the Republican-controlled House or a Senate with a bipartisan consensus on gun rights.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed a law in January strengthening his state’s assault weapons ban and limiting the number of bullets in gun magazines. O’Malley is pushing legislation this legislative session that would ban all assault weapons, restricting the size of magazines and seeking to license handgun purchases. In conjunction with a trip by Vice President Joe Biden to Connecticut last week, Malloy rolled out his own proposals, which included an expanded assault weapons ban, background checks for all gun purchases, a ten-round magazine limit.

Delaware Gov. Jack Markell actually pushed through some gun control proposals before Newtown, but is now attempting to get additional legislation relating to mental health and school safety to his desk.

“Whatever happens at the national level, we in Delaware didn’t feel like it would be the appropriate thing for us to wait,” said Markell.

But it’s not just in the heavily-urban states where Democratic governors are taking action on guns. Even some governors who’ve previously been cautious on the issue are sounding off. In Colorado, Gov. John Hickenlooper is seeking expanded background checks and has said he supports some curbs on magazine sizes. Kitzhaber has also signaled a willingness to support gun restrictions, including assault weapons bans and magazine size limits.

And Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin, who in 2010 received an NRA “A”-rating and hails from a heavily rural state, said he’d like to see federal action on universal background checks and restrictions on the size of magazines.

Yet even while such Democratic governors are taking action on guns, there’s a frustration in their ranks about what is becoming a patchwork solution to what they see as a national problem.

“The problem is California has very strong regulations but our neighboring states of Nevada and Arizona don’t,” said California Gov. Jerry Brown.

Malloy, previously the Mayor of Stamford, described what is the bane of many Northeastern mayors and governors.

“As far as background checks, when you go up and down 95 — you can do it in Philadelphia, you can do it in New York City or Bridgeport or New Haven or Hartford or Stamford for that matter — you find a gun that’s been used in a street crime, a hand gun and you trace it to the last place it can be traced to, more often than not it is [from a state like] Florida or Virginia, which allows sales that we would never allow,” said Malloy. “People buy them, put them in the back of the car, drive them up the streets in these communities and put them in the back of their cars. We do need federal action.”

While they want more, the pro-gun control Democratic governors believe even incremental progress in Washington this year could breathe life back into the issue.

“I think the president can’t stop talking about it…and if he gets universal background checks, it gives momentum to states to do more,” said O’Malley.


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For most of us, the murder of 20 children is a tragedy. For gun controllers, it's an opportunity, and it is increasingly looking to be an opportunity they missed (at least on a national level).

Immediately after Newtown, I predicted quick passage of a national assault weapons ban as well and posted as much often on this forum. I hope to continue to have been wrong. Those of us who care about RKBA need to have long memories and remain ever vigilant, never complacent. These people aren't going away and many of them have shown their true colors. They want guns banned. All of them.

1 posted on 03/01/2013 7:38:04 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
My son's friend's father opened a indoor shooting range in January and what the projected for the year revenues was surpassed in 1 month.

Had to send one son to Israel to buy ammo

2 posted on 03/01/2013 7:42:29 AM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Drew68

These gun-grabbers were looking to Americans to carry out the Leftists dream of gun confiscation....but Americans were busy standing in long lines to buy more guns and ammo.

It sucks to be a gun-grabber. Let’s work to keep it that way.


3 posted on 03/01/2013 7:43:07 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Drew68

Any shooting will be an opportunity for the regime to take advantage of. Next time.


4 posted on 03/01/2013 7:44:47 AM PST by albie (`)
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To: Drew68
Democratic governors fear gun reform moment has passed

That's what happens when your base is made up of low information voters, they have an attention span that only last until the next big thing comes around. Thankfully, for us, this tragedy took place when most legislatures where out of session and wouldn't be back until after the holiday

5 posted on 03/01/2013 7:45:08 AM PST by apillar
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To: Drew68

Gun control is best passed during times of economic and political certainty. It is much more difficult to pass legislation when people are insecure and feel that chaos mae come in the near future.

It is entirely possible, if we keep up the pressure, that nothing will be passed and as the Milleniums come of age the opportunity to do so will evaporate. They are very Pro-2A, partly due to the effect of video games with which they grew up.


6 posted on 03/01/2013 7:50:13 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: Drew68

20?

0bama mentor Bill Ayers said that 25 MILLION would have to be “eliminated” in order for the new socialist society to work.


7 posted on 03/01/2013 7:50:31 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Drew68
the most powerful bloc of gun-control proponents in the country is conceding that the gripping sense of outrage following the Sandy Hook massacre has ebbed.

Not to worry.

There will be another Sandy Hoax.

Soon...

8 posted on 03/01/2013 7:56:36 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: scooby321
My son's friend's father opened a indoor shooting range in January and what the projected for the year revenues was surpassed in 1 month.

I live in north Jacksonville, Florida. There's s small indoor shooting range in the neighboring town of Yulee about 10 miles north of me. That place is always packed! Every time I've stopped in, there's a line of people waiting to shoot either their own firearms or store rentals.

I really want to put some rounds through my .45 but have been loath to expend any of the few hundred rounds I currently am holding on to until the inventory restabilizes. Fortunately, as an Ordnanceman in the U.S. Navy I can pretty much go shoot a Sig 9mm and brush up on my skills whenever I want (and at the government's expense).

9 posted on 03/01/2013 7:59:31 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

““[S]adly, after the funerals, for too many of us as Americans, our attention turns to other things and that makes it harder to achieve the consensus, and nothing moves terribly fast in Washington anyway.”

Well, then, bully for us! Man wasn’t made to live in fear of death. Sin brought in the fear and ever since, Satan and his children have stoked it. I mention this because the love of God in Christ can make one very bold and impervious to pathetic appeals for earthly security. God makes us secure, and no one can touch Him!

So we can weep with those who weep and still keep our wits.

On an earthly plane, “Hard cases make bad laws”. Even this simple saying is lost on the eggheads and gurus who supposedly know what’s best for us.


10 posted on 03/01/2013 8:00:14 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Drew68; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; GOPJ; ...
RE :”Gun-control advocates hoped the shattering December murder of 20 first-graders in Newtown, Conn., would upend the de facto non-aggression pact on federal gun laws that both political parties have consented to in the last decade. But now that expanded background checks seem to be the only initiative that may pass Congress, the most powerful bloc of gun-control proponents in the country is conceding that the gripping sense of outrage following the Sandy Hook massacre has ebbed.
Democratic governors fault Washington lawmakers for not acting more aggressively but, more strikingly, some even point a finger at Americans themselves for not keeping up the pressure on elected officials.

Of course it has passed, because Obama got sidetracked by sequester-geddan campaigning around the country..

Besides, now that Obama is going to Furlough Police, national guard and border patrol, and is releasing dangerous criminal illegals from Jail to cause havoc(not to mention threatening Woodward with a drone strike LOL) , just to force the GOP to raise taxes, that makes a stronger argument for the 2nd amendment and self defense,
time to form those local militias, its like that Kevin Cosner movie 'The Post man' .
HA_HA

How to survive the sequester (it will be worse than Y2K and Climate change both put together)

11 posted on 03/01/2013 8:02:31 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Drew68

The shootings in Connecticut were a heartbreaking TRAGEDY. The “outrage” was a product of the Drive-By Media as a tool of furthering their agenda.
The several governors, afraid to further harsh dealing with the ILLEGAL gun users, aim their wrath at an inanimate object that is, by itself, useful only as a costly paper weight.
Their courage (/s) is shown by their constant demands to solve a problem of law breaking by attacking those who always OBEY the law.
The next crusade will be the curing of the DRUNK DRIVING epidemic by banning cars, rather that coming down hard on those who drive drunk.


12 posted on 03/01/2013 8:05:21 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: Drew68
The despicable lefties pray for tragedies like Sandy Hook to happen.

Just so they can take advantage of transient emotions to advance their anti-American agenda.

13 posted on 03/01/2013 8:07:10 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: MrB
0bama mentor Bill Ayers said that 25 MILLION would have to be “eliminated” in order for the new socialist society to work.

And of course, the 25 million would be the productive capitalists. Once they're gone, everyone else would starve to death.
Not a very good plan. The EBT cards would be worthless. Then what would all the moochers do? They'd have to eat each other, I guess. That's not a very good plan either.

14 posted on 03/01/2013 8:10:01 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Drew68

Obama’s sequester idea has pushed gun control off the front pages.


15 posted on 03/01/2013 8:11:25 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
The next crusade will be the curing of the DRUNK DRIVING epidemic by banning cars, rather that coming down hard on those who drive drunk.

Speaking of drunk driving, Maryland's Governor O'Malley wants to prohibit people convicted of DUIs from owning guns. (Well, he wants to prevent everyone from owning guns but, baby steps, you know...)

16 posted on 03/01/2013 8:12:11 AM PST by Drew68
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To: concerned about politics

It would be PARADISE! Paradise, I tell you!


17 posted on 03/01/2013 8:14:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Drew68
considering the financial disaster the elites and the politicians have put us in, they know at some point backlash for their mismanagement is a certainty and they won't have anything to fear if we are all disarmed. However, the people get it and any future carnage by some nut job is not going to further blind the people to the real motive behind the government's attempt to disarm us. The government trying to take personal firearms at this point is like trying to remove fresh meat from the mouth of a lion. The only way to do that would be to first kill the lion. Mark these words: a national background check WILL LEAD TO FIREARMS REGISTRATION and eventually to blanket denial of legal firearm sales.
18 posted on 03/01/2013 8:16:33 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Drew68
For the gun grabbers something like Newtown is a clarion call to begin lining up even more victims to be killed by the ACLU's favorite mad men and women.

You cannot look at somebody like O'Malley as even being human ~ he's a cannibal king and for him and his kind normal people are just more meat for the pot.

19 posted on 03/01/2013 8:19:40 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Drew68

HA, come to Oregon....


20 posted on 03/01/2013 8:25:50 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: sickoflibs
Besides, now that Obama is going to Furlough Police, national guard and border patrol, and is releasing dangerous criminal illegals from Jail to cause havoc(not to mention threatening Woodward with a drone strike LOL) , just to force the GOP to raise taxes, that makes a stronger argument for the 2nd amendment and self defense,

Yep. The administration unloaded the criminals into every state, and those criminals are going to get desperate. Law abiding citizens are now going to have to defend themselves and their children from all the new oboma supporters who'll be slithering around in the shadows and looking for human targets to rape and plunder.
Oboma gave the American people no choice. Arm themselves, or become the victims of this legislation.

21 posted on 03/01/2013 8:27:35 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: txrefugee

They should count themselves as lucky if this is indeed true. Otherwise they would have opened up a can of whipass fightback the likes their kind have never seen. There’s a saying, “Enough is enough!” And, to my mind, this issue is the straw that would break the camel’s back.


22 posted on 03/01/2013 8:41:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Drew68
The politicians don't give a shi!t about the citizens being killed. If they did, there would be universal concealed/open carry and full enforcement of the Death Penalty for the few thugs who escaped their intended victims.

Politicians are scared to death that the Citizens might (will) come after them as the economy settles into the muck, and other failed policies become apparent.

23 posted on 03/01/2013 8:42:02 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Drew68
So does this mean the dems really are dancing on the graves of the victims of Sandy Hook?
24 posted on 03/01/2013 8:43:12 AM PST by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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To: Drew68

We need a video of Obama and his staff threatening the nation with reduced law enforcement and national security.

Follow that with rolling script and voice over:

THIS is why American citizens NEED semi-automatic rifles with 30 round magazines.

To protect our families, our homes, our communities, and our nation, when the government FAILS in those responsibilities.


25 posted on 03/01/2013 8:59:18 AM PST by G Larry
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To: goodnesswins
HA, come to Oregon....

Yes, we might have dodged a bullet (no pun intended) on the national level but gun owners in a handful of states haven't been so fortunate as gun-banners have found greater success at the state level. I can't believe the crap my home state of Colorado is about to pass. Gun control would've been unthinkable in Colorado a decade ago, even after Columbine. I don't even recognize the place anymore and it pains me to say I'm glad I no longer live there.

At this point, the best that gun-owning residents of these states can hope is for the courts to toss out much of this garbage.

26 posted on 03/01/2013 9:15:00 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

“Democratic governors fear gun reform moment has passed “

It certainly does not seem to “have passed” in Maryland.

The Washington Times reports this morning on the progress in MD of what may be the nation’s most restrictive gun control law yet:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/28/maryland-on-its-way-to-becoming-one-of-toughest-gu/

Passage there looks to be a near-certainty.


27 posted on 03/01/2013 9:15:38 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Drew68
Democratic governors fault Washington lawmakers for not acting more aggressively

You first!
No, you first!
No...YOU first!


28 posted on 03/01/2013 9:25:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Drew68
Democratic governors fear gun reform moment has passed

Translation: reason and freedom have triumphed. WINNING!

29 posted on 03/01/2013 9:28:39 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: concerned about politics
Then what would all the moochers do? They'd have to eat each other, I guess. That's not a very good plan either.

You say that as if it's a bad thing. Two birds with one stone. Works for me.

30 posted on 03/01/2013 9:38:19 AM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Road Glide

So does non-compliance


31 posted on 03/01/2013 9:58:01 AM PST by cyclotic (In a society of wolves, you do not fight back by creating more sheep-Dan Bongino)
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To: albie
Expanding the philosophy of The Dancing Mayor...

Never let a good slaughter got to waste!

32 posted on 03/01/2013 9:58:41 AM PST by skimbell
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To: Drew68

What evil and vile people they are!


33 posted on 03/01/2013 10:58:43 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Drew68; All

So, where is the article giving thanks that the people rose up and protected the Constitution from the evil, power hungry MSM and politicians?

It would be every bit as fair as this article, and more logical.


34 posted on 03/01/2013 11:21:05 AM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Drew68

The same libtard politicos who want more gun control laws never enforce the ones that are already on the books.

Morons!


35 posted on 03/01/2013 11:51:11 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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