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Investigators recover Lanza computer data
ctpost ^ | 2/16 | John Pirro, Michael P. Mayko and Ken Dixon

Posted on 02/17/2013 6:27:43 AM PST by RummyChick

NEWTOWN -- Investigators have succeeded in recovering some data from one of the damaged hard drives in a computer used by Adam Lanza and have subpoenaed computers of people they believe were in contact with the Sandy Hook mass murderer, a law enforcement source said Friday.

Another smashed hard drive is still being reconstructed by technicians with the U.S. Department of Defense, the source said.

Authorities are particularly interested in what relationships Lanza had within the online and video game community, hoping there may be clues about what provoked him to shoot his mother to death, then kill 20 first-graders and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School on the morning of Dec. 14.

Earlier in their investigation, State Police found a trove of violent gaming material at the Newtown home Lanza shared with his mother, Nancy.

Lanza attempted to destroy the computer hard drives either on the day of the shootings or shortly earlier.

Investigators also have concluded that Adam Lanza's mother did not restrict his access to the Bushmaster rifle and three other guns he took to Sandy Hook school to embark on his killing spree, according to another law enforcement source familiar with the investigation.

Nancy Lanza "had the means to secure the weapons" inside the Yogananda Street home she shared with her 20-year-old son, but the security measures she employed didn't include keeping them away from Adam, the source said. Nancy Lanza and her son had frequently used area firing ranges.

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Doesn't add up. She was thinking about committing her son but didn't restrict guns from him???

She told people not to talk to him (because he was so strange???), didn't let people from her weekly game group come inside her house - but she didn't restrict gun access????

1 posted on 02/17/2013 6:27:51 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Amen, sister. I thought that from day one. By far, the largest amount of blame lies on her shoulders. Libtards would have us feel sorry for her, but she really is the one responsible.

(I do feel sorry for her, but not the way libtards do.)


2 posted on 02/17/2013 6:37:37 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: RummyChick
Let's be real.....He likely continuously threatened her and restricting the arms would make him even angrier...and sh'ed be offed just a bit sooner. This was an ongoing thing for a long time. She was a victim in more ways than one.

Like the dude in Webster NY who went on a rampage....he killed his sister FIRST...

Threatened people don't report it.....because they are usually told....Well, he hasn't done anything....

3 posted on 02/17/2013 6:40:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: RummyChick

google “Andrew Ellmaker” He was nuts, on meds and in treatment with a social worker visiting him at home. He killed the social worker with a knife and then cut her up with a chain saw, all which he was allowed by his mother to keep in his room.


4 posted on 02/17/2013 6:40:48 AM PST by Mercat (Never laugh at live dragons)
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To: RummyChick

Another point - people who live with crazy people become a bit crazy themselves. It’s contagious. After a while, insane behavior starts to seem normal.


5 posted on 02/17/2013 6:42:22 AM PST by Mercat (Never laugh at live dragons)
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To: RummyChick

bfl


6 posted on 02/17/2013 6:42:38 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: RummyChick

Guns were locked up. Crazy guy was left home alone with the secured weapons for 3 days. He broke into the safe and got the guns.


7 posted on 02/17/2013 6:42:51 AM PST by wrench
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To: RummyChick

A better plan would have been to unscrew apart the hard drives and .... Smash the platters and throw them in random trash bins. Even just hammer them and chuck in random dumpsters etc...better than leaving them at the crime site. But the psycho-killer is dead and gone so what does he care


8 posted on 02/17/2013 6:45:18 AM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: Sacajaweau

Thats why they make gun safes.

If he had no access to the guns he could not have shot anyone.

He might have stabbed people, blown them up, run over them with cars, poisoned them or used any one of a number of other means to off the people, but he could not have shot them.


9 posted on 02/17/2013 6:46:50 AM PST by rdcbn
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How Nancy Lanza’s weapons were stored is of interest to state lawmakers as they draft gun-control proposals in the aftermath of the Newtown school shooting. They have asked the state’s attorney’s office for an update on the investigation, seeking information not only about the weapons Lanza used but also the state of his mental health.

In addition to the high-powered rifle that Lanza wielded to blast his way into the school, the two handguns he was carrying and a shotgun police found in the trunk of the car he drove, there was one other weapon in the Lanza house — an “old Springfield rifle” — one of the law enforcement sources told Hearst Connecticut Newspapers.

The source said the bullets that struck three cars in the Sandy Hook Elementary parking lot were fired from inside one of the classrooms and exited the building through the windows. It’s not yet clear whether the shots had been aimed at arriving police officers or were just shots that had gone wild.

State police also are returning to families the since-laundered clothes worn by the victims when they were killed. Some of the families are accepting them. Others don’t want them back.

Investigators appear to be making slow but dogged process.

“There is a lot of evidence that was recovered, but the question is, what does it tell us?” said one law enforcement source. “This is not a who-done-it.”

Stephen J. Sedensky III, the state’s attorney in Danbury who oversees the investigation, said Friday, “I expect that it will go on for a number of months, but I hope that it can be (completed) within the time frame that I testified to before the Legislature, which is the summer.”

In the two months since the shootings, Newtown residents have sought to achieve some degree of normalcy, albeit a new one.

The students of Sandy Hook now attend classes at the former Chalk Hill Middle School in neighboring Monroe. The building was quickly upgraded with the latest security measures and also refurbished to remind students of their old home.

The fate of the Sandy Hook school building has been the subject of two lively town hall meetings, with residents divided over whether the building that housed kindergarten through fourth grade should be razed or converted to some other use.

Some parents in the school district are pushing for a continued presence by armed security guards or police officers at all seven district schools.

More than $9 million has been raised by the United Way’s Sandy Hook Relief Fund, the largest of several ventures to help the victims’ families, first responders and the community at large.

Several family members of the victims have joined Sandy Hook Promise, a community group that seeks a broad national dialogue on ways to avoid future mass shootings and on how to promote community healing.

Victims’ family members have cautiously stepped into the public arena, joining gun-control rallies, urging attention for mental health treatment and attending President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address.

On Friday, Obama at a White House ceremony awarded the Presidential Citizens Medal, the second-highest civilian honor, to the families of the six slain teachers and administrators at Sandy Hook.

The recommendations of Vice President Joe Biden’s task force on gun violence either have been enacted into executive actions by Obama or referred to Congress for review. Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., said last week that lawmakers are likely to support universal background checks for gun purchasers, but are divided on whether to limit large-capacity ammunition magazines and to ban assault weapons.

Two state task forces are reviewing the events of Dec. 14 — a blue-ribbon panel appointed by Gov. Dannel P. Malloy and a bipartisan group of state legislators.

House Minority Leader Lawrence F. Cafero Jr. said Friday he anticipates bills to come before the House and Senate by March 13, and perhaps a week earlier.

Cafero said he has given Chief State’s Attorney Kevin Kane a list of 10 questions that would aid lawmakers in fashioning proposals, including whether Nancy Lanza used a storage locker or some sort of safe to store her weapons; details on Adam Lanza’s mental health history; whether he attempted to buy guns on his own; and exactly which guns he used in the killings


10 posted on 02/17/2013 6:48:43 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: wrench
It is very hard to keep something secured from an adult that you live with. Combinations can be spied out, keys found. They have all the time in the world to work things out.

Keeping things “secure” from someone who lives in the house is a pipe-dream.

11 posted on 02/17/2013 6:50:59 AM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: wrench

Gun safes make most homes less safe. Home invasions succeed when defensive weapons are not available.


12 posted on 02/17/2013 6:53:42 AM PST by billhilly
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To: RummyChick

So it’s only a matter of time till we find out his Kos diary.


13 posted on 02/17/2013 6:59:29 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: RummyChick

I am not sure that having a safe would have prevented this crime. He would have just forced her to open the safe.

We also don’t know what treatment she sought for her son. Perhaps, she was in denial about the whole thing.


14 posted on 02/17/2013 6:59:45 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Bogey78O

If he turns out to be a leftist, we will never hear about it in the media.


15 posted on 02/17/2013 7:01:23 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: RummyChick
and have subpoenaed computers of people they believe were in contact with the Sandy Hook mass murderer

If this guy lived in some kind of on-line gaming fantasy world, there's going to be a whole bunch of people whose lives are about to be turned upside-down who probably had no idea they even had any association with Lanza.

16 posted on 02/17/2013 7:07:08 AM PST by Drew68
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To: RummyChick

Look, these suffering mothers of kooky sons are abandoned by the fathers who are too big of wusses to hang with the problem (it might adversely affect their careers, their self images or their pursuit of tail), they are left struggling by our society who say you “make them go to college or kick them out”, kcicking them out means death or incarceration, and the mothers get no help .

This is not a new or original problem, but none of the genius psychologists or social workers has any freaking clue what to do and no one has tried to put together some sort of group homes for these misfits so the mothers can live a normal life. So the mothers keep on trying, keep on praying, God keeps on not helping or not giving these kooky boys an epiphany or a Damascus Road experience like prayed for and things get more and more dangerous.

Shame on somebody, not sure who.


17 posted on 02/17/2013 7:07:56 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RummyChick

I wanna find out about his webpage dedicated to satan


18 posted on 02/17/2013 7:09:09 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: RummyChick

no so fast, RC.

These mothers (and there are kooky and dangerous girls too, just not as many) are left with no resources, and our society offers them no help. They are isolated with a nut case and have no where to turn.


19 posted on 02/17/2013 7:09:30 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Nancy Lanza had plenty of resources. She was getting close to 300,000 a year from Peter. He also had to pay for college and his car.


20 posted on 02/17/2013 7:13:13 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

And money helped her exactly how, pray tell? Could she have bought him kooky angry young dangerous man help? There isn’t any to be had.


21 posted on 02/17/2013 7:16:18 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RummyChick

I suppose “Peter” aptly named, offered t have Adam live with him, right? Uh, no. Didn’t think so

He is a pathetic excuse for a father as are the other fathers of the other angry young men who killed people.


22 posted on 02/17/2013 7:18:12 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
Sounds like you are blaming everyone else, including God, but not Adam Lanza.
23 posted on 02/17/2013 7:18:27 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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To: Lee'sGhost

Indeed. She paid for her stupidity with her life.


24 posted on 02/17/2013 7:19:39 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

I am saying, there is a problem with angry young men and absentee “dads” in this country that needs to be addressed, smarty pants.


25 posted on 02/17/2013 7:19:55 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Sure there were options. With money - she had options that many don’t who have children with problems.

She could have hired round the clock care with that kind of money.

She could have him put away.

She could have done more to protect those guns.

If you have a child and you live in fear - and many do who have autistic children, etc. then don’t give them access to guns!!!!

People have to hid utensils from autistic children. Take knobs of stoves.

Giving him free access to guns when she knew he had severe problems - IS NUTS


26 posted on 02/17/2013 7:24:21 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Drew68

I’m afraid that you may be correct. Imagine the shock from that subpoena.


27 posted on 02/17/2013 7:28:33 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Bogey78O

Its either DU or Kos take your pick.


28 posted on 02/17/2013 7:30:44 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: RummyChick
hoping there may be clues about what provoked him to shoot his mother to death, then kill 20 first-graders and six educators

What provoked him? Or what inspired him?

29 posted on 02/17/2013 7:35:27 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: RummyChick

http://www.ctnow.com/news/connecticut/newtown-sandy-hook-school-shooting/hc-raising-adam-lanza-20130217,0,1705503.story?page=8

During this period, friends and family members said, Nancy Lanza disclosed little about her struggles with Adam. But on one recent occasion, she confided in Rich Collins, another friend in Newtown and father of a boy with autism. Something was bothering her, she told Collins.

“He was very sensitive to touch and didn’t want to be touched,” Collins said of Adam. “That used to hurt her. She would get upset about that.”

Asked about the Asperger’s experience, the person close to Peter Lanza said Adam’s father found it challenging.


30 posted on 02/17/2013 7:37:51 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: A_perfect_lady

http://www.ctnow.com/news/connecticut/newtown-sandy-hook-school-shooting/hc-raising-adam-lanza-20130217,0,1705503.story?page=9

“Earlier in 2012, Nancy Lanza had once again begun to talk with friends and family members about a big change: moving to Washington state or North Carolina so Adam could once again attend college and pursue a degree in history.

To friends and family, Nancy was again looking for the right educational fit for her now adult son — even if it meant leaving New England, where she had lived her entire life.

One family member believes Nancy would not have planned such a move without Adam behind it.”


31 posted on 02/17/2013 7:40:42 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: yldstrk
God keeps on not helping or not giving these kooky boys an epiphany

Don't blame God. It's not His fault He's a figment of human imagination.

32 posted on 02/17/2013 7:41:40 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: yldstrk

People who want to blame the mother fail to realize that this kid was 20 years old — an adult who couldn’t be pushed around physically or legally or otherwise.

He was old enough to refuse to go to the doctor or take his medication or to be committed for psychiatric care.

And what is her recourse??? kick him out of the house to facilitate his meltdown??? have him arrested for a crime that he has not committed yet???

She had few choices other than doing what she was doing, and who would have guessed that he would go crazy like this.


33 posted on 02/17/2013 7:53:02 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“People who want to blame the mother fail to realize that this kid was 20 years old — an adult who couldn’t be pushed around physically or legally or otherwise.

He was old enough to refuse to go to the doctor or take his medication or to be committed for psychiatric care.

And what is her recourse??? kick him out of the house to facilitate his meltdown??? have him arrested for a crime that he has not committed yet???

She had few choices other than doing what she was doing, and who would have guessed that he would go crazy like this.”

Uncle Chip

Thank you, I completely agree.


34 posted on 02/17/2013 8:01:13 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RummyChick

“put him away” This isn’t the 1800’s and besides, put him away where? There isn’t a place. What do you think would have happened while she was attempting for months or years to request the probate court to commit him? Huh? You don’t know what you are suggesting.

What kind of “round the clock help” a cook, a maid an armed security guard?

get real.


35 posted on 02/17/2013 8:05:19 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RummyChick

Considering the well known “accuracy” of media reports, especially in this case, I dont think we really know anything about how the guns were stored, lanza’s relationships with his family, or what meds he was on. There are so many conflicting reports that all this is speculation.


36 posted on 02/17/2013 8:08:08 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: wrench

“Guns were locked up. Crazy guy was left home alone with the secured weapons for 3 days. He broke into the safe and got the guns.”

What is the source of this information?


37 posted on 02/17/2013 8:16:44 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: RummyChick
Earlier in their investigation, State Police found a trove of violent gaming material at the Newtown home Lanza shared with his mother, Nancy.

Here we have the nexus to part of his madness.

I know an ER psychiatrist who when a parent brings a teenager into the Emergency Room with complaints that he is suicidal or homicidal always asks the kid if he plays war or other such violent video games.

The child ALWAYS says yes.

Then he asks how many people he killed today. The kid gives usually a number in the 100s and the parents are shocked.

We now have soldiers receiving treatment for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder who are flying the drones and killing people. These are adult men who are trained to kill from a chair and a video screen.

So when you allow a child or teen, to sit in their room, for hours, playing games where all they are doing is killing, and these games look real, it's not a leap to think that they will go real-life. We have a whole generation of kids with PTSD and it's only going to get worse.

38 posted on 02/17/2013 8:17:07 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Bring back King George III, all he tried to tax was the tea.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

And how did you figure out God is a figment of human imagination?


39 posted on 02/17/2013 9:19:01 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: A_perfect_lady

“In closing, let me tell you in all honesty that if you are religious, I consider you mentally ill. Arguing with you nuts is like arguing with someone who thinks they are Napoleon.”

Never mind my question. I consider arguing with atheists a big waste of my time. You and I will know the truth when the time comes.


40 posted on 02/17/2013 9:22:54 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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And how did you figure out God is a figment of human imagination?

I think that's an unfair question, isn't it?

I don't think there is any way to "figure out" a path to Christian faith or to "figure out" a path to a lack of Christian faith.

41 posted on 02/17/2013 9:28:05 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: yldstrk
I am saying, there is a problem with angry young men and absentee “dads” in this country that needs to be addressed

I agree.
My previous reply was primarily in response to the following statement: "So the mothers keep on trying, keep on praying, God keeps on not helping or not giving these kooky boys an epiphany or a Damascus Road experience like prayed for and things get more and more dangerous."

Seems to be blaming God to me

42 posted on 02/17/2013 11:42:03 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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To: FreedomOfExpression

so the eff what? Yeah I do blame God for us being in this horrible situation, with marriages breaking down and men running after sex and porn and selfishly putting their own happiness above that of their children. What a difference it could have made if Adam’s dad would have quit his pigh powered job and spent some time with Adam, huh?

Yeah, quite frankly I am livid with God. Have been praying for many things and none have come to pass. Do not understand how any of this torture is helping God’s plan at all. Sh what?

Next question.


43 posted on 02/17/2013 12:23:41 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Uncle Chip; yldstrk

Seriously?!!!

Here’s a thought...she could have put trigger locks on her weapons and hid the keys. She could have put them in a gun safe and kept the combination to herself.

Yeah...it’s really THAT simple.

And just for the record, I don’t WANT to blame her, I’m simply placing the blame where it belongs...with an idiot who allowed her mentally ill son to have access to her weapons.

What recourse indeed. For pity sake.


44 posted on 02/17/2013 2:37:17 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
it’s really THAT simple.

If it is as simple as you state, then you must believe that firearm confiscation would reduce or eliminate murder.

45 posted on 02/17/2013 2:50:47 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Sacajaweau

The other issue about restricting access: he lived there, and he wasn’t dumb - he knew where they were and could figure out how to get them.


46 posted on 02/17/2013 3:05:06 PM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The other issue about restricting access: he lived there, and he wasn’t dumb - he knew where they were and could figure out how to get them.


47 posted on 02/17/2013 3:05:12 PM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: yldstrk

God gave us free will. He doesn’t control us and he can’t make people live according to his law.


48 posted on 02/17/2013 7:00:10 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Alaska Wolf

Well, I’ve seen sillier comments, but yours is near the top. Putting trigger locks on your weapon or putting them in a safe and NO relation to gun confiscation whatsoever. Are you sure you read my post?

I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt because you don’t strike me as a stupid person. It’s got to be one or the other.


49 posted on 02/18/2013 8:38:36 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost

“... an idiot who allowed her mentally ill son to have access to her weapons.”

And she ensured he was trained and proficient on the weapons.

She had the time and money to help him. Instead she empowered his madness.

Who initiated the divorce?

Who had the house and alimony?

Who took custody of the boy?

She cultivated a monster and the monster got loose.


50 posted on 02/18/2013 9:16:23 AM PST by Justa
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