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1 posted on 02/14/2013 8:44:17 AM PST by barmag25
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First, I apologize for duplicating what some others have said and preaching to the choir but legislation such as this angers me to the point I must vent. Proposal of gun laws like this strengthen my resolve to oppose and violate any such law should it ever be passed in my state. Now, what happens when a non-resident passes through the state carrying a weapon legal in both his home state and end destination? And of course, how many criminals will comply? Another play we’ve seen on this is the requirement for additional insurance should you own guns. Again, just another effort to be able to track gun owners just like the background check for private sales. Surely they can’t think we are fooled by these emotionally charged, feel good laws designed to void the Second Amendment.

With all the registration and confiscation proposals out there, it makes private sales much more tempting. I now believe the best weapons are those that cannot be traced to you. I predict mass transfers and losses of guns via private sales, boating accidents, fires, etc. will become the norm. In the meantime, I call on all gun supporting organizations to get together to oppose these laws and those who propose such legislation, regardless of party. We need to find strong pro-Second Amendment candidates willing to stand up and propose legislation protecting the rights of those 99% plus gun owners who are responsible and law abiding.


84 posted on 02/14/2013 10:32:30 AM PST by Boomer One
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I’m just proud that a Democrat(Communist) finally stood up and told the truth about their agenda.


87 posted on 02/14/2013 10:48:24 AM PST by nobamanomore
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A few years ago I read a fiction book by the Christian author Larry Burkett called “Illuminati”

One of the interesting parts of his story was where the corrupt president eliminated all the supreme court justices that were against his power grab. I can see that same thing happening to politicians who try to take away weapons, especially in the non-metro areas. Hope it never happens, but the stakes are getting pretty high and we are seeing tensions getting real high! I pray there is a peaceful resolution to this.


92 posted on 02/14/2013 11:13:56 AM PST by tired&retired
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This is a violation of the Second Amendment. Get a rope!


93 posted on 02/14/2013 11:21:51 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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I would like to ask everyone to please take a look at the website www.OathKeepers.org

The Oath Keepers are made up of former/active duty military and law enforcement. Those who don't meet that requirement for full membership can still join as an associate member to work on outreach efforts. This is vital to the movements growth, and one person can get Oath Keepers information to a significant number of people. You can purchase Oath Keepers brochures and push cards from the OK store to mail, handout, or place as you see fit. You can get 250 brochures for under $15. You will also receive some with a membership, or you can go to the OK resource page for fliers you can print out yourself.

Donations can be made to the Oath Keepers Billboard Campaign Fund, Oath Keepers General Fund, or the Oath Keepers Legal Fund. The Billboard Campaign is placing billboards outside of military bases. It started in response to a that used the TEA party as a potential enemy, but was expanded into a larger effort to place more general Oath Keepers billboards outside of several military bases.

The Oath Keepers is a very important movement that's been been intelligently and professionally organized. It sticks with a simple Constitutional message that has widespread support with a large portion of the American public. It's a legitimate mainstream movement that has several branches across the nation. It's been seeing growth since it's creation in 2009, and has recently seen had a surge in popularity with the political climate.

I place a lot on movements like this. I agree with what Mark Levin said about us living in a post-Constitutional era with a broken system. He said we need to look outside the box for solutions, and I think most people agree those solutions are with the States. I don't think the Oath Keepers are the only thing we should be focused on. I just believe that our military and law enforcement are going to be put in a situation that will force them into violence against Americans, or into disobeying unconstitutional orders, and possibly having to go a step further.

I would appreciate everyone taking a look at the national Oath Keepers website , and their local chapter to see what you think.

www.OathKeepers.org

94 posted on 02/14/2013 11:35:59 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:

Yet the criminals can keep theirs.

97 posted on 02/14/2013 11:45:21 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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Paging Henry Bowman, your services are [again] required, please pick up the nearest courtesy phone.

(If you don’t know who Mr. Bowman is, you should. Open a google search page, type “unintended consequences” along with “pdf”, examine the top hits, save to disk, and start reading. You’ll be glad you did.)


98 posted on 02/14/2013 11:49:09 AM PST by Road Glide
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It’s too bad I don’t live in Missouri, I’d turn in Obama!


99 posted on 02/14/2013 11:50:10 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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On the Internet:
“Felony classification depends on the state, and every state decides the specific minimum and maximum punishable sentences. Under federal law, class C felonies have a maximum prison term of 25 years, but with a minimum of 10 or more years (as of April 2011). Classification C felonies also have up to a $250,000 maximum fine. In general, class C felonies apply to repeat offenders but also include severe crimes against a person’s body or property.”

and another:
“Class C Felonies

Class C felonies include crimes such as felony drunk driving, second-degree sexual assault, kidnapping, arson, robbery, and vehicular homicide while intoxicated. The penalty for Class C felonies is a fine up to $100,000, imprisonment for up to 40 years, or both.”

Class A and B Felonies refer to homicide, conspiracy, first-degree sexual assault, or kidnapping, so they are putting gun owners in a pretty odious class.

Not many people will check out what a Class C Felony is - make sure they see how severe the Democrats want to penalize gun owners.


102 posted on 02/14/2013 12:02:00 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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Hmmm, this company is in Missouri. According to Dirt Cheap Ammo, the #1 selliing AR on the market.

http://www.cmmginc.com/

Come to Texas friends.


109 posted on 02/14/2013 12:42:39 PM PST by WCH
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Was checking out the pols were that proposed this.

Along the way, I stumbled into the DU where i made this surprisingly candid letter from a MD pol. It may be gone by time you click on it though (note the Pavlovian "gun violence" mantra. (I'm stacking all these examples up for the next lib who write about our "irrational paranoia".

Found the name of the bozos and the full bill at
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4c4_1360857857
(looks like some duplication of criteria)

Copied here for archival purposes:

FIRST REGULAR SESSION

HOUSE BILL NO. 545 97TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY

INTRODUCED BY REPRESENTATIVES ELLINGER (Sponsor), SCHUPP, MCNEIL AND WALTON GRAY (Co-sponsors). 0776L.01I D. ADAM CRUMBLISS, Chief Clerk

AN ACT

To amend chapter 571, RSMo, by adding thereto one new section relating to the manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of any assault weapon or large capacity magazine, with a penalty provision.

Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the state of Missouri, as follows:

Section A. Chapter 571, RSMo, is amended by adding thereto one new section, to be known as section 571.023, to read as follows:

571.023. 1. As used in this section the following terms shall mean:
(1) "Assault weapon", any:
(a) Semi-automatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:
a. A pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
b. Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
c. A folding or telescoping stock; or
d. A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel;
(b) Semi-automatic pistol, or any semi-automatic, centerfire or rimfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition;
(c) Semi-automatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:
a. Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
b. A folding, telescoping or thumbhole stock;
c. A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; or
d. The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at any location outside of the pistol grip;
(d) Semi-automatic shotgun that has one or more of the following:
a. A pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
b. Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
c. A folding or telescoping stock;
d. A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; or
e. An ability to accept a detachable magazine;
(e) Shotgun with a revolving cylinder; or
(f) Conversion kit, part, or combination of parts, from which an assault weapon can be assembled if those arts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

Assault weapon does not include any firearm that has been made permanently inoperable;

(2) "Detachable magazine", an ammunition feeding device that can be loaded or unloaded while detached from a firearm and readily inserted into a firearm and includes a magazine that can be detached by merely depressing a button on the firearm either with a finger or by use of a tool or bullet;

(3) "Fixed magazine", an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action;

(4) "Large capacity magazine", any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(a) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than ten rounds;
(b) A twenty-two caliber tube ammunition feeding device; or
(c) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

2. No person, corporation or other entity in the state of Missouri may manufacture, import, possess, purchase, sell, or transfer any assault weapon or large capacity magazine.

[bold my emphasis] 3. This prohibition shall not apply to:
(1) Any government officer, agent, or employee, member of the armed forces of the United States, or peace officer, to the extent that such person is otherwise authorized to acquire or possess an assault weapon or large capacity magazine, and does so while acting within the scope of his or her duties;
(2) The manufacture of an assault weapon or large capacity ammunition feeding device by a firearms manufacturer for the purpose of sale to any branch of the armed forces of the United States, or to a law enforcement agency in the state of Missouri for use by that agency or its employees, provided the manufacturer is properly licensed under federal and state laws; or
(3) The sale or transfer of an assault weapon or large capacity ammunition feeding device by a dealer that is properly licensed under federal, state, and local laws to any branch of the armed forces of the United States, or to a law enforcement agency in the state of Missouri for use by that agency or its employees for law enforcement purposes.

4. Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:
(1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;
(2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or
(3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.

5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

111 posted on 02/14/2013 12:49:36 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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Not going to happen. They are trying that crap here in Colorado, too, but law or no law I highly suspect it ain’t happening here, either.


112 posted on 02/14/2013 12:56:03 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: barmag25; Just another Joe; darrellmaurina; greeneyes; DoctorBulldog; UCANSEE2; ez; ronnyquest; ...
Bump & a BANG!

Has this been in the BS media? Who sponsored the bill?

137 posted on 02/15/2013 6:34:07 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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