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Biden on gun control: Limit on magazine rounds a bigger priority
tcpalm ^ | January 24, 2013 at 3:51 p.m. | Nedra Pickler and Erica Werner

Posted on 01/25/2013 12:35:41 PM PST by Red Steel

WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that he's more concerned about limiting the number of rounds in a gun magazine than about banning assault weapons that account for a small percentage of gun deaths.

Biden argued that the shooter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., could have been slowed down if he had fewer rounds in each magazine and had to change clips more often. "Maybe if it took longer, maybe one more kid would be alive," Biden said during an online video chat on Google Plus.

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Biden says he wants a ban on assault weapons, even though he acknowledges they don't account for a large portion of gun deaths in America. He says a ban would solve part of the gun violence problem, particularly for police who can be outgunned by criminals with assault weapons.

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"If anyone asks today'Can you win this?,' we don't know, it's so uphill," Feinstein said. She said it only would happen if voters got behind the measures and called on their lawmakers to act.

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The assault weapons ban in particular is seen as unlikely to make it through Congress, because of opposition by majority Republicans in the House and concerns from moderate Democrats in the Senate. Even Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has cast doubt on its prospects. Some advocacy groups are focusing their attention instead on expanding background checks, which is seen as more doable politically.

Feinstein said those Democrats with concerns about the legislation needed to ask themselves what their silence would mean.

"Sandy Hook is more eloquent testimony than any of us could possibly give," she said. "If members of this body are so insensitive to what happened to those small bodies from that Bushmaster when it all becomes known, America is hopeless."

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Biden will be accompanied by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Deputy U.S. Attorney General Jim Cole and other administration officials, as well as Sen. Tim Kaine and Rep. Bobby Scott, both Virginia Democrats.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; domesticenemy; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/25/2013 12:35:46 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

What a dumb horses butt....

Criminals will just carry more clips/magazines or they will carry more weapons on them....

Not to mention anyone with decent sheet metal working rigs will be able to create/modify new high capacties and those people will of course be criminals and won’t give a crap about breaking slow joe’s laws...


2 posted on 01/25/2013 12:39:16 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Red Steel

So, what Biden is saying is that it’s OK for “civilians” to be “outgunned by criminals” but not the police?


3 posted on 01/25/2013 12:41:30 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Red Steel

Lack of laws is not the problem. And more laws are not the solution.


4 posted on 01/25/2013 12:43:29 PM PST by Brownie63
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To: Red Steel
MI:Gutsy grandma shoots at robber after attack

"Somebody said he had a gun, and when he turned and faced me he went down, and when he went down I just pulled my 9 out and started shooting him,"

She fired 11 rounds from a gun that the democrats want to make illegal.
5 posted on 01/25/2013 12:48:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel
"Maybe if it took longerone teacher had a gun, maybe one more kid would be alive."

See, Joe? Not so hard.

6 posted on 01/25/2013 12:49:27 PM PST by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: Red Steel
Limiting the capacity of firearm magazines has about the same chance of reducing murders as limiting the capacity of beer cans would reduce alcoholism.
7 posted on 01/25/2013 12:52:30 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Red Steel

If we didn’t finance Planned Parentlesshood, there would most likely be millions more children alive today.

bobo


8 posted on 01/25/2013 12:54:09 PM PST by bobo1 (the KDE plasma desktop is awesome!)
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To: Pecos
This is only 4 rounds I think but it does display the stupidly of the liberal argument about reloading time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZUU5skOEU4

They can be fired at least twice as fast as they're loaded.
9 posted on 01/25/2013 12:58:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel

Hmmm.. what guns and magazines do we want to make exclusive to criminals....


10 posted on 01/25/2013 1:00:13 PM PST by Epsdude
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To: Red Steel

Of course!

If Lanza had to take that extra 2 seconds to change out a 10 round magazine, that’d given those 50 pound 6 year olds and the unarmed women teachers hiding in the closet a chance to rush him and take him down with their bare hands.


11 posted on 01/25/2013 1:00:21 PM PST by digger48
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To: Red Steel

The ONLY priority is infringing on the rights of lawful gun owners so the Democrats can show their constituency that they are “doing something”.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 1:01:16 PM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: MrB
So,what Biden is saying is that it’s OK for “civilians” to be “outgunned by criminals” but not the police?

Exactly my thoughts and that's exactly what he's saying.

It appears that Joe sees just two types of people: the police (aka: government) and criminals.

Why is it that the police will be exempt from magazine size limit? If it's against the law to have more than seven rounds, then bad guys won't have more than seven rounds, right?

Wrong.

The bad guys won't abide by the law, so in order to ensure that they aren't outgunned, the police get to have larger magazines.

Meanwhile, the law abiding public is regulated into a severe disadvantage when it comes to defense of self, family, and society.

It is incomprehensible to Joe and his big government types that ordinary average citizens may be called upon to be the good guy.

13 posted on 01/25/2013 1:02:58 PM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: Red Steel

We need severe restrictions on Joe Biden’s 1st Amendment rights.


14 posted on 01/25/2013 1:06:00 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Washi

“The bad guys won’t abide by the law...”

It’s getting to the point where the good guys won’t either.


15 posted on 01/25/2013 1:08:50 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Red Steel

***particularly for police who can be outgunned by criminals with assault weapons. ***

OUTGUNNED? Back in the early 1900s Harry Tracy broke out of prison and with just a 30-30 Winchester and a Colt revolver shot down around eleven lawmen and several civilians before he shot himself.

I don’t remember reading of any lawmen at that time crying about being “outgunned” or calling for a ban on 30-30s.


16 posted on 01/25/2013 1:09:40 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Red Steel

Biden’s a moron. There are still too many people of western culture in the USA to allow gun control to have any effect (see ingenuity). Hey, Biden, head someplace closer to the Equator. There, you might be able to more easily enforce dictatorships. Take your old feminist nags with you.


17 posted on 01/25/2013 1:09:55 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red Steel

Using the “if it saves 1 life” argument is the sign of scoundrel. It also tells you that they think their plan wont have much of an impact. If it would save hundreds or thousands of lives, wouldnt they say that?


18 posted on 01/25/2013 1:12:33 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Red Steel

Yes. Lets also limit those clips in the guns that the SS use to protect your sorry a$$e$. One shot...make it count.


19 posted on 01/25/2013 1:14:39 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Red Steel

***WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that he’s more concerned about limiting the number of rounds in a gun magazine than about banning assault weapons that account for a small percentage of gun deaths. ****

Back in the late 1960s a Viet Cong backwoods blacksmith could turn out a 30-40 round magazine for a captured M-16, using only a piece of sheet metal and a pair of tin snips.

And this idiot thinks a “ban” will fix things up? Americans have had extended magazines ever since rifles went to cartridges.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evans_Repeating_Rifle

And you thought the HENRY rifle holding 16 rounds was bad!


20 posted on 01/25/2013 1:16:27 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Red Steel
Joe bite me. Says everything.

5.56mm

21 posted on 01/25/2013 1:16:39 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Red Steel

Dimwit Biden is not going to dictate how many rounds I am allowed to take into a gunfight that some a$$hole(s) has forced on me.

The time to consider if you may have taken too many rounds into a gunfight.... is AFTER it’s over, NOT before.

Obama and his administration may think it’s fine to stand down and leave our people behind and allow them to die, but, I will fight to the death for my loved ones and I will use any tool I have been forced to use.


22 posted on 01/25/2013 1:16:50 PM PST by Gator113 (Leave my guns alone and REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS!!)
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To: Red Steel
"Maybe if it took longer, maybe one more kid would be alive," Biden said during an online video chat on Google Plus.

Maybe if the principal had a Mossberg 500, 20 more kids would be alive.

23 posted on 01/25/2013 1:20:32 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Buffalo Head
Limiting the capacity of firearm magazines has about the same chance of reducing murders as limiting the capacity of beer cans would reduce alcoholism.

Or limiting sodas to 16 oz instead of 32 will reduce obesity. Liberals can't use logic. It's foreign to them.

24 posted on 01/25/2013 1:22:41 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

He thinks the “save one life” is the new race card.


25 posted on 01/25/2013 1:26:12 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Red Steel

This child killer would have been in jail, not killing children, had YOU Mr. Government done your job and enforced existing laws.

He lied on his Federal Form when he tried to buy a gun weeks before the incident.

How about the Gov’t actually enforcing the existing laws!


26 posted on 01/25/2013 1:27:51 PM PST by wrench
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To: Red Steel

Demoncrats like Slow Joe have never been ones to let facts stand in the way of a good crisis, the stupid bass-turds.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/18/Assault-Weapons-Tied-To-Less-Than-012-Percent-Of-Deaths-In-2011
I may ask our new rep Messer to present a bill in Congress prohibiting Democrats. They can’t pass a budget. They kill children and won’t protect public/prole school children.
What good are they? They’re no good! They’re a threat to the public health, safety and welfare.
Ban `em!


27 posted on 01/25/2013 1:28:00 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Red Steel

“Maybe if it took longer, maybe one more kid would be alive,” Biden said

The sickness and stupidity of this comment is pathetic.

If nobody is there to stop them, it won’t matter if he had a bolt action!!!


28 posted on 01/25/2013 1:36:36 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Red Steel; Travis McGee

We defend our President———————with men with guns
We defend our Congressmen-————with men with guns
We defend our Governors-——————with men with guns
We defend our celebrities-——————with men with guns
We defend our sporting events-———with men with guns
We defend our jewelry stores————with men with guns
We defend our banks—————————with men with guns
We defend our office buildings————with men with guns
We defend our factories-———————with men with guns
We defend our courts—————————with men with guns
We defend our children————————with a sign that reads: “GUN FREE ZONE.”

And then when there is an emergency .... we call someone with a gun.


29 posted on 01/25/2013 2:03:59 PM PST by B4Ranch (When democracy turns to tyranny, we still get to vote. We just won't use voting booths to do it.)
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To: Red Steel

So all the millions of high-cap mags already in circulation will become contraband and move from the legal market to the black market!?! Only criminals will have them and they will suddenly have a lot more of them.


30 posted on 01/25/2013 2:06:01 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: GraceG

there are many like him. Senile fools who would gladly trade principle for self interest.

the ability to limit capacity in the era of 3d printing and cdc fabrication is looooooooong gone.


31 posted on 01/25/2013 2:11:53 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Steel
They are just throwing everything they can think of up against the wall in hopes that we might be stupid enough to let something stick.
32 posted on 01/25/2013 2:16:45 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Red Steel
Feinstein said...

"Sandy Hook is more eloquent testimony than any of us could possibly give," she said. "If members of this body are so insensitive to what happened to those small bodies from that Bushmaster when it all becomes known, America is hopeless."

No, fine swine, America's congress is hopeless. Your chamber democrats are worth about as much as used toilet paper. That gun did not go there on its own and create havoc. A crazed killer kid did, and not one of the guns I have ever owned has ever gotten out on its own, loaded itself, aimed itself at anyone and pulled the trigger.

33 posted on 01/25/2013 2:23:15 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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34 posted on 01/25/2013 2:28:09 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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35 posted on 01/25/2013 2:29:09 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

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36 posted on 01/25/2013 3:32:12 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Red Steel

So you limit a mag to 7 rounds. This protects children...and an 8 round mag would kill children. Now there’s some real logic for you. And you hear Juan Williams on Hannity this afternoon stating he had no guns in his house to protect him and his family? These people are all morons.


37 posted on 01/25/2013 4:18:52 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: Red Steel

“Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that he’s more concerned about limiting the number of rounds in a gun magazine than about banning assault weapons that account for a small percentage of gun deaths.”

I agree. Joe, Buckwheat and the mercenary secret service traitors ought to be more concerned about the number of incoming rounds.

Next question.


38 posted on 01/25/2013 4:55:50 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: cripplecreek
Heres a great video to show how silly Bidens statement is..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w0o7YgiTFm4

this should go viral...

39 posted on 01/25/2013 5:27:26 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: M-cubed

Thank you. That is exactly the argument I’ve been making. I’ve already tweeted it on twitter and will be sending it out in emails to friends and family.


40 posted on 01/25/2013 5:43:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel

Adam shot all the kids he could find. He didn’t run out of time, he ran out of victims. The rest of the kids were behind locked doors, or hidden.

He already swapped clips multiple times. And he swapped before he had to. A couple of more swaps wouldn’t have made a difference.


41 posted on 01/25/2013 5:52:23 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Red Steel
Take heart, my friends: on my blog, I show why this means we are winning.

Excerpt:

Ol' Backwoods reckons Sauron Obama can read the FBI's statistics on the number of guns purchased since the Sandy Hook Massacre as good as anybody else. And he knows: we are voting with our dollars, down at the gun store and in the halls of the gun shows.

They have scanned the World-Wide Web and read the angry diatribes from gun owners.

And they saw the way the Eastern Outdoors Show fell apart after the NRA and over 150 vendors pulled out of it, after Reed (the management) announced that no "modern sporting rifles" like AR-15's could be displayed at the show. ...

Let Ol' Backwoods translate that for ya: Biden is telling us they know they are losing the fight.

42 posted on 01/25/2013 6:29:17 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: cripplecreek
Here's another one to go with it to show the absurdity of liberal logic....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAFAywYZK-M&feature=youtu.be
43 posted on 01/25/2013 8:43:28 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Red Steel

They do not want the us to have guns. That is their big goal.

The only way they think they can take them away is to enact worthless laws knowing they will not work.

So when the next time a crazy person kills a bunch of inocents, they can claim they only need one more law.


44 posted on 01/26/2013 8:45:50 AM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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