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Posted on 01/25/2013 12:35:41 PM PST by Red Steel
WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that he's more concerned about limiting the number of rounds in a gun magazine than about banning assault weapons that account for a small percentage of gun deaths.
Biden argued that the shooter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., could have been slowed down if he had fewer rounds in each magazine and had to change clips more often. "Maybe if it took longer, maybe one more kid would be alive," Biden said during an online video chat on Google Plus.
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Biden says he wants a ban on assault weapons, even though he acknowledges they don't account for a large portion of gun deaths in America. He says a ban would solve part of the gun violence problem, particularly for police who can be outgunned by criminals with assault weapons.
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"If anyone asks today'Can you win this?,' we don't know, it's so uphill," Feinstein said. She said it only would happen if voters got behind the measures and called on their lawmakers to act.
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The assault weapons ban in particular is seen as unlikely to make it through Congress, because of opposition by majority Republicans in the House and concerns from moderate Democrats in the Senate. Even Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has cast doubt on its prospects. Some advocacy groups are focusing their attention instead on expanding background checks, which is seen as more doable politically.
Feinstein said those Democrats with concerns about the legislation needed to ask themselves what their silence would mean.
"Sandy Hook is more eloquent testimony than any of us could possibly give," she said. "If members of this body are so insensitive to what happened to those small bodies from that Bushmaster when it all becomes known, America is hopeless."
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Biden will be accompanied by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Deputy U.S. Attorney General Jim Cole and other administration officials, as well as Sen. Tim Kaine and Rep. Bobby Scott, both Virginia Democrats.
What a dumb horses butt....
Criminals will just carry more clips/magazines or they will carry more weapons on them....
Not to mention anyone with decent sheet metal working rigs will be able to create/modify new high capacties and those people will of course be criminals and won’t give a crap about breaking slow joe’s laws...
So, what Biden is saying is that it’s OK for “civilians” to be “outgunned by criminals” but not the police?
Lack of laws is not the problem. And more laws are not the solution.
See, Joe? Not so hard.
If we didn’t finance Planned Parentlesshood, there would most likely be millions more children alive today.
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Hmmm.. what guns and magazines do we want to make exclusive to criminals....
Of course!
If Lanza had to take that extra 2 seconds to change out a 10 round magazine, that’d given those 50 pound 6 year olds and the unarmed women teachers hiding in the closet a chance to rush him and take him down with their bare hands.
The ONLY priority is infringing on the rights of lawful gun owners so the Democrats can show their constituency that they are “doing something”.
Exactly my thoughts and that's exactly what he's saying.
It appears that Joe sees just two types of people: the police (aka: government) and criminals.
Why is it that the police will be exempt from magazine size limit? If it's against the law to have more than seven rounds, then bad guys won't have more than seven rounds, right?
Wrong.
The bad guys won't abide by the law, so in order to ensure that they aren't outgunned, the police get to have larger magazines.
Meanwhile, the law abiding public is regulated into a severe disadvantage when it comes to defense of self, family, and society.
It is incomprehensible to Joe and his big government types that ordinary average citizens may be called upon to be the good guy.
We need severe restrictions on Joe Biden’s 1st Amendment rights.
“The bad guys won’t abide by the law...”
It’s getting to the point where the good guys won’t either.
***particularly for police who can be outgunned by criminals with assault weapons. ***
OUTGUNNED? Back in the early 1900s Harry Tracy broke out of prison and with just a 30-30 Winchester and a Colt revolver shot down around eleven lawmen and several civilians before he shot himself.
I don’t remember reading of any lawmen at that time crying about being “outgunned” or calling for a ban on 30-30s.
Biden’s a moron. There are still too many people of western culture in the USA to allow gun control to have any effect (see ingenuity). Hey, Biden, head someplace closer to the Equator. There, you might be able to more easily enforce dictatorships. Take your old feminist nags with you.
Using the “if it saves 1 life” argument is the sign of scoundrel. It also tells you that they think their plan wont have much of an impact. If it would save hundreds or thousands of lives, wouldnt they say that?
Yes. Lets also limit those clips in the guns that the SS use to protect your sorry a$$e$. One shot...make it count.
***WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that he’s more concerned about limiting the number of rounds in a gun magazine than about banning assault weapons that account for a small percentage of gun deaths. ****
Back in the late 1960s a Viet Cong backwoods blacksmith could turn out a 30-40 round magazine for a captured M-16, using only a piece of sheet metal and a pair of tin snips.
And this idiot thinks a “ban” will fix things up? Americans have had extended magazines ever since rifles went to cartridges.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evans_Repeating_Rifle
And you thought the HENRY rifle holding 16 rounds was bad!
5.56mm
Dimwit Biden is not going to dictate how many rounds I am allowed to take into a gunfight that some a$$hole(s) has forced on me.
The time to consider if you may have taken too many rounds into a gunfight.... is AFTER it’s over, NOT before.
Obama and his administration may think it’s fine to stand down and leave our people behind and allow them to die, but, I will fight to the death for my loved ones and I will use any tool I have been forced to use.
Maybe if the principal had a Mossberg 500, 20 more kids would be alive.
Or limiting sodas to 16 oz instead of 32 will reduce obesity. Liberals can't use logic. It's foreign to them.
He thinks the “save one life” is the new race card.
This child killer would have been in jail, not killing children, had YOU Mr. Government done your job and enforced existing laws.
He lied on his Federal Form when he tried to buy a gun weeks before the incident.
How about the Gov’t actually enforcing the existing laws!
Demoncrats like Slow Joe have never been ones to let facts stand in the way of a good crisis, the stupid bass-turds.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/18/Assault-Weapons-Tied-To-Less-Than-012-Percent-Of-Deaths-In-2011
I may ask our new rep Messer to present a bill in Congress prohibiting Democrats. They can’t pass a budget. They kill children and won’t protect public/prole school children.
What good are they? They’re no good! They’re a threat to the public health, safety and welfare.
Ban `em!
“Maybe if it took longer, maybe one more kid would be alive,” Biden said
The sickness and stupidity of this comment is pathetic.
If nobody is there to stop them, it won’t matter if he had a bolt action!!!
We defend our President———————with men with guns
We defend our Congressmen-————with men with guns
We defend our Governors-——————with men with guns
We defend our celebrities-——————with men with guns
We defend our sporting events-———with men with guns
We defend our jewelry stores————with men with guns
We defend our banks—————————with men with guns
We defend our office buildings————with men with guns
We defend our factories-———————with men with guns
We defend our courts—————————with men with guns
We defend our children————————with a sign that reads: “GUN FREE ZONE.”
And then when there is an emergency .... we call someone with a gun.
So all the millions of high-cap mags already in circulation will become contraband and move from the legal market to the black market!?! Only criminals will have them and they will suddenly have a lot more of them.
there are many like him. Senile fools who would gladly trade principle for self interest.
the ability to limit capacity in the era of 3d printing and cdc fabrication is looooooooong gone.
"Sandy Hook is more eloquent testimony than any of us could possibly give," she said. "If members of this body are so insensitive to what happened to those small bodies from that Bushmaster when it all becomes known, America is hopeless."
No, fine swine, America's congress is hopeless. Your chamber democrats are worth about as much as used toilet paper. That gun did not go there on its own and create havoc. A crazed killer kid did, and not one of the guns I have ever owned has ever gotten out on its own, loaded itself, aimed itself at anyone and pulled the trigger.
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So you limit a mag to 7 rounds. This protects children...and an 8 round mag would kill children. Now there’s some real logic for you. And you hear Juan Williams on Hannity this afternoon stating he had no guns in his house to protect him and his family? These people are all morons.
“Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that he’s more concerned about limiting the number of rounds in a gun magazine than about banning assault weapons that account for a small percentage of gun deaths.”
I agree. Joe, Buckwheat and the mercenary secret service traitors ought to be more concerned about the number of incoming rounds.
Next question.
this should go viral...
Thank you. That is exactly the argument I’ve been making. I’ve already tweeted it on twitter and will be sending it out in emails to friends and family.
Adam shot all the kids he could find. He didn’t run out of time, he ran out of victims. The rest of the kids were behind locked doors, or hidden.
He already swapped clips multiple times. And he swapped before he had to. A couple of more swaps wouldn’t have made a difference.
Excerpt:
Ol' Backwoods reckons Sauron Obama can read the FBI's statistics on the number of guns purchased since the Sandy Hook Massacre as good as anybody else. And he knows: we are voting with our dollars, down at the gun store and in the halls of the gun shows.
They have scanned the World-Wide Web and read the angry diatribes from gun owners.
And they saw the way the Eastern Outdoors Show fell apart after the NRA and over 150 vendors pulled out of it, after Reed (the management) announced that no "modern sporting rifles" like AR-15's could be displayed at the show. ...
Let Ol' Backwoods translate that for ya: Biden is telling us they know they are losing the fight.
They do not want the us to have guns. That is their big goal.
The only way they think they can take them away is to enact worthless laws knowing they will not work.
So when the next time a crazy person kills a bunch of inocents, they can claim they only need one more law.
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