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To: Christie at the beach
Sorry, the professional did not show how their theory was wrong. I own and make my own ammo for 5.55 mm, 270, .30-06, 7.62 mm .30-30, .303, .38, 9 mm, .45 APC, 410, 20 and 12 gauge. Each has a purpose. Each can kill. You need to see an argument between two guys into weapons over which is better, 5.56 mm vs. 7.62 mm.

What was presented tonight was for low information voters. I have no problems with that, but it did misrepresent the deadliness of .223/5.56 ammo. I bet you didn't google 5.56 mm pictures of actual wounds. Check this out:

Warning Graphic Wound

That's a lot different that the three small holes shown on Hannity.

The principles our founding fathers used to write the 2nd Amendment had nothing to do with ammo size and qualities. We lose when we make weak arguments that are not based on principles.

Just to be clear, I do not want any weapon to be banned, and I mean any, whether it is a little pistol, a fully automatic weapon, a tank, or a fighter jet or bomber. The principle is the same as when Gen. Gage when to Concord and Lexington to confiscate and destroy weapons. The only difference today is that weapons are more expensive and more deadly.

19 posted on 01/18/2013 8:27:12 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: ConservativeInPA
>>The principles our founding fathers used to write the 2nd Amendment had nothing to do with ammo size and qualities. We lose when we make weak arguments that are not based on principles.

That is not what the professional nor the show was trying to relate. I think in what time they had, they were wanting to show how the democrats are lying about certain weapons being banned which do not do as much damage as others can do that are getting banned. And it was not to say, we should ban certain weapons/ caliber. I didn't get that message at all. A .223 or a 7.62 can be purchased as a regular rifle/they are not banning them which will do the same damage.

20 posted on 01/18/2013 8:52:57 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

:: The principles our founding fathers used to write the 2nd Amendment had nothing to do with ammo size and qualities. ::

Had that discussion with my MIL. She was convinced that the Founders never envisioned hi-cap, semi-auto weapons.

The true argument for this is that the 2A says “arms”, without distinction. The founders probably spent their youth with powder and ball flint lock muskets. As adults, they fought with ball-and-wad, ram-loaded rifles utilizing a percussion cap.

In their lifetimes, this advancement would be equivalent to the development of semi-automatic firing (which was in its developmental infancy in the same time period, I believe).

Of course she made the hyperbolic leap to “ALL those people who have flame throwers and bazookas”, to which I simply replied how many killings have used such weaponry?

She remains unconvinced.


29 posted on 01/19/2013 11:02:58 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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