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1 posted on 01/11/2013 9:14:23 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

A secret no-fly zone seems incredibly stupid to me.
You can’t expect pilots to be clairvoyant.


2 posted on 01/11/2013 9:22:06 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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3 posted on 01/11/2013 9:22:36 AM PST by KeyLargo
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4 posted on 01/11/2013 9:23:34 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Ignorance of the secret laws is no excuse. < /sarc>


5 posted on 01/11/2013 9:24:07 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: KeyLargo

This is where you file lawsuits and seek to have the prosecutor disbarred.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 9:25:22 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: KeyLargo

As America seeks to emulate the former Soviet Union in every way, look for more and more secret laws that people will be arrested, prosecuted, and jailed for.


7 posted on 01/11/2013 9:25:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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Stick and Rudder ping....


12 posted on 01/11/2013 9:35:58 AM PST by onedoug
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To: KeyLargo
He didn't know he was on double-secret probation?

-PJ

14 posted on 01/11/2013 9:41:03 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: KeyLargo
When his attorney returned and said the case would be dismissed if he agreed not to take any legal action against Darlington County law enforcement, he said, he reluctantly agreed.

This is double jeopardy. If LEO's can arrest you on made up charges, and then tell you that they will drop the charges if you agree not to assert your own rights against false imprisonment, then no one is safe anywhere ever. I might have stood and fought the charges, just so I could press criminal charges against the local yokels here.

15 posted on 01/11/2013 9:41:46 AM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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arrested for breach of peace after flying his Rolladen-Schneider LS8-18 sailplane noiselessly over the H.B. Robinson Nuclear Generating Station

I'm no pilot but you might not want to be soaring over nuclear power plants.

16 posted on 01/11/2013 9:43:05 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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I live and fly a RV6A out of FL37.
Just this morning I took off and flew towards the area just outside of Fort Pierce International Airspace south and was heading towards the ocean where I regularly fly south along Hutchinson Island and go either directly over the Saint Lucie Nuclear Power plant or I go over the Indian River.
I’ve NEVER have a problem but me thinks this guys problem is that he is flying a non detectable craft.
Nearly invisable to radar.


20 posted on 01/11/2013 10:01:27 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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"'e had transgressed the unwritten law."

"Just what was that law?"

"Well, 'e never did tell me what it was, but he gave me 'is word, an' that's good enough for me with ol' Dynsdale!"

25 posted on 01/11/2013 10:09:46 AM PST by SparkyBass
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To: KeyLargo

Hasn’t this guy heard of NORDO? I always answer anonymous calls asking who is that circling and buzzing (fill in the blank) ./NOT!


27 posted on 01/11/2013 10:36:46 AM PST by wrench
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To: KeyLargo

One of the first things you learn when you study law is that a law is not a law until it is “promulgated”. In other words, there can be no “secret law”.

Beyond that, it is distressing that almost on a daily basis I read stories of gung-ho law enFORCEment, treating citizens who have broken no laws like they are felons ... and threatening to “shoot down” a glider ... insane.

I used to wonder how the Nazis found so many people willing to staff the camps and pack the trains ... every day here in AmeriKa 2013 I read stories that confirm the mindset of such people is still alive and well and more often than not uniformed and badged. Sickening.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 11:21:19 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: KeyLargo
The arrest report, however, paints a different picture

It always does. Often a display of unbridled fiction and questionable grammer.

32 posted on 01/11/2013 12:02:35 PM PST by tbpiper
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umm, not a secret. It’s a temporary flight restriction set up after 9/11. Can’t fly over nuke power, sporting events with more than 30,000 people or state department special airspace within 3nm or 3000’ agl. Not sure what that last one is, but these are old rules.


34 posted on 01/11/2013 12:44:39 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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“When his attorney returned and said the case would be dismissed if he agreed not to take any legal action against Darlington County law enforcement, he said, he reluctantly agreed.”

Gross violation of civil rights IMHO. I would seek charges for violation of civil rights under color of law.


36 posted on 01/11/2013 12:51:28 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: KeyLargo

There is in fact a flight restriction that has been on file since 2010 and has been restated back in 2004. The AOPA should no better. As this FDC reads, it strongly advises pilots to avoid the airspace around nuclear power plants. It does not say prohibit. Law enforcement should have had the common sense to realize that a sailplane can’t just power its’ way out of the airspace and no arrest should have been made after interviewing the pilot.

FDC 4/0811 - ...SPECIAL NOTICE...
THIS IS A RESTATEMENT OF A PREVIOUSLY ISSUED ADVISORY NOTICE.
IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY AND TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE,
PILOTS ARE STRONGLY ADVISED TO AVOID THE AIRSPACE ABOVE, OR IN
PROXIMITY TO SUCH SITES AS POWER PLANTS (NUCLEAR, HYDRO-ELECTRIC, OR
COAL), DAMS, REFINERIES, INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES, MILITARY FACILITIES
AND OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES. PILOTS SHOULD NOT CIRCLE AS TO LOITER
IN THE VICINITY OVER THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES. WIE UNTIL UFN. CREATED: 08 OCT
18:22 2004


41 posted on 01/12/2013 8:10:15 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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