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The culture war is over, and conservatives lost (Face it, Americans no longer agree with us)
The Week ^ | 01/03/2013 | Matt K. Lewis

Posted on 01/03/2013 12:09:45 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: ksen
When your party is more interested in taking away what little benefits these single-parent families receive in order to preserve the wealth of the top 1% then of course you are going to lose the votes of those people . . . and there's a lot more of them then[sic] the 1%.

Don't you have an Occupy Drum Circle practice to attend or something?
61 posted on 01/03/2013 1:21:44 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Bless you, LLS, and those who have the fight IN them TO fight!


62 posted on 01/03/2013 1:23:26 PM PST by itssme
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To: Political Junkie Too
I'm still not convinced that it was "Americans" that gave Obama the few critical votes he needed in just the right precincts to win.

The few critical votes? Hussein won by a shade under 5 million votes. The election wasn't even really all that close now that most of the votes have been counted. It would have been far more bizarre if Romney had won the election while having lost the popular vote by so much.

This article is awful tasting medicine, but it's true. You can see it in the younger generations even more clearly. This country is becoming far more libertine - and it is very likely that the Republican party will move in that direction as well. We haven't completely lost the debate over fiscal issues even with the younger folks, but on social issues it is not even a close call anymore. Just look at something like gay marriage. It would be unthinkable even 10 years for gays to be serving openly in the military and states approving homo marriage, but that is exactly what is happening. Conservatives have lost this fight by not contesting on the media and entertainment front. Breitbart was making that point over and over again and he was right.

63 posted on 01/03/2013 1:24:36 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: LibsRJerks
Cool, I have 28 years to a wonderful wife.
No regrets!!!

But we may have lost one of our children to that worldly lure. their reasoning is twisted, they seek council from like minded fools, not sage advice from loving parents........heart breaking.

64 posted on 01/03/2013 1:24:55 PM PST by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: cripplecreek
Too many people are buying the media line of BS about Obama’s mandate.

He doesn’t have a mandate, but he has power and he is wielding it with out opposition from the House.

Nixon once refused to spend money that Congress approved so they went to court and forced him to spend it. This guy on the other hand is spending money that has not been appropriated by congress and no one says a word. Ten fighter planes and 100 tanks promised to Egypt? What budget would a conservative include those item in?

Unless you are willing to recognize that your friends are not really your friends then you will be loaded onto that train soon enough. I am a life long Reublican and all they have given me since Reagan, is someone that was less bad than the other guy and that includes the New World Order presidents GHWB and his spawn GW.

Soon up to bat will be Jeb the Bush, the one that refused to save Terri.

65 posted on 01/03/2013 1:27:21 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: DTogo

with respect most of that is sagebrush or elvis country.


66 posted on 01/03/2013 1:32:25 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Don't you have an Occupy Drum Circle practice to attend or something?

No, we're still on our winter solstice hiatus.

67 posted on 01/03/2013 1:32:57 PM PST by ksen
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To: Shadow44

The key word here is culture. We have to grab hold of the leftist culture that has grabbed tight-fisted hold of those people who follow obozo and his ideology. I also agree with you that it will be a never-ending fight that won’t see immediate results. Andrew Breitbart was a gem, he was the right man to spearhead a culture fight and he knew how to do it and win. And now he is gone, and it is crushing to think about it still. BUT, we must continue to move onward and achieve what we set out to do. We do need Conservative leadership..we have no leader, and we need to organize. And the beat goes on....


68 posted on 01/03/2013 1:34:30 PM PST by itssme
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To: Longbow1969

Well, I hope that we can count on you to join us in our fight for social conservatism.


69 posted on 01/03/2013 1:35:20 PM PST by ansel12
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To: DTogo
Not when viewed in county-by-county maps of 2012 electoral results.

The only problem with the story you are trying to paint with that map is that the blue counties are the ones with most the people, i.e. voters, in them and the red counties are the ones with the fewest. So basically there are a lot of wide open, empty spaces in the red counties.

70 posted on 01/03/2013 1:36:16 PM PST by ksen
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To: Longbow1969
The few critical votes? Hussein won by a shade under 5 million votes. The election wasn't even really all that close now that most of the votes have been counted.

I'm talking about the few swing precincts in the few swing states.

I believe someone analyzed that it came down to about 450,000 votes across Ohio, Virginia, and Florida.

Obama could have gotten most of his 5 million lead from California and New York - heck, he could have doubled that amount, and it would still have come down to that half a million in 3 or 4 swing states.

-PJ

71 posted on 01/03/2013 1:36:23 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: DTogo

The geographic argument is really an urban vs rural argument. Obama won by a few hundred thousand votes in 3 battleground states due to dominating the urban vote in major cities for their states. Somehow that has been exaggerated into a “mandate” and the end of the cultural war. People need to understand that the densely populated urban cities embrace socialism and are the driving force to our country heading this direction.


72 posted on 01/03/2013 1:38:31 PM PST by Gen-X-Dad
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To: fwdude
They are the fake “conservatives.”

Really? You come to that conclusion exactly how?

73 posted on 01/03/2013 1:40:42 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: catfish1957

Source? If it is false why has it not been removed from this forum?


74 posted on 01/03/2013 1:42:43 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: DTogo

You need the 3d version.
Those red squares? Mostly empty. Those blue ones are urban areas stacked with breeding parasites.


75 posted on 01/03/2013 1:48:51 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The bottom line is we have a problem in this country, and the family is fracturing.

The goal of libtards is to destroy the institutions of marriage and family. Libtards desire equality of results and if they can't get that then they will settle for equality of opportunity. Equality of opportunity involves equality of both nature and nurture. One way to achieve equality of nurture is to destroy the family and marriage enough so that the government can take over and raise children equally. Libtards are behaviorists who are constantly and continuously trying to build the society they want by controlling the environment.

76 posted on 01/03/2013 1:52:05 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: LibsRJerks
I admire you and your family and your values. Those folks that you are referring to will either see the light, change their ways because they will get sick and tired of the cesspool they are wallowing in...it pays so few rewards in the end, and sometimes even the stupid smarten up and want something better. I'm hoping and praying that this happens.

It is a skank world out there and the numbers who partake are many. One good fact to come out of what you are reporting is that these people are WORKING! They are not part of the generational welfare crowd who live off welfare, from one generation to the next, are nothing more than sperm donors and slut-abouts, who make babies for the all the freebies they can get from oboma’s government, like a section 8 roof over their heads at a very young age, free food, phones, healthcare, education etc, and in the case of those who thug for pocket money, they also are responsible for the high crime rate, courtesy of the green light oboma gives them to plunder and be feral animals on the street, with no punishment..after all oboma is trading them the goodies for their votes. And then there are the bum-we-don't-want-to-work punks who live off welfare and work for the left, the anarchists, communists, marxists, revolutionaries who are hard-core believers, and the college crowd, who are leftist-educated and who follow the pied-piper oboma like the lemmings they are.

I am so thankful to read about people like yourself, who mirror my values. I pray that the pendulum swings back, but none of this will ever happen without the fight of our lives to be fought, for sure.

77 posted on 01/03/2013 1:54:04 PM PST by itssme
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To: SMARTY
America got itself hooked on ‘mediocrity’.

Yep, about the same time we started asking women to help run things.

Like I tell my son, in secret, the key to a happy marriage is to understand, she doesn't want to HEAR the truth.

So don't bother.

78 posted on 01/03/2013 1:57:20 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: SeekAndFind
The culture war is over? Dream on. We ain't seen nothing yet. America is still swirling the bowl when it comes to depravity. "Conservatives lost"? Yeah. we're down - but not out.

"Today, conservatives have made a shocking discovery: They are the ones in danger of appearing out of touch with middle America." -- Paul Weyrich, 1999. True then. Truer now.

To be sure, his idea wasn't entirely original. Years earlier, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan observed, "The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society."

So true it's worth repeating in bold font:

"The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society."

For example, over at Red State, conservative commentator and blogger Erick Erickson argues, "Republicans should turn their attention toward — family." Erickson quotes Rick Santorum, who, during a 2012 Republican primary debate said:

The bottom line is we have a problem in this country, and the family is fracturing.

Over 40 percent of children born in America are born out of wedlock. How can a country survive if children are being raised in homes where it's so much harder to succeed economically? It's five times the rate of poverty in single-parent households than it is in two-parent homes. We can have limited government, lower tax — we hear this all the time, cut spending, limit the government, everything will be fine. No, everything's not going to be fine. 

EGGS-ZACTLY. As opposed to liberals like Glenn Beck and Newt Gingrich who argue that Republicans need to "get with it" and allow same-sex marriages.

Conservatives have largely lost the culture, and it can't be won back by passing some landmark piece of legislation. Instead, it's going to be a long, hard slog. The good news is that, though conservatives typically hate the term "reactionary," most conservative victory is first predicated on liberal overreach.  

It may be that if things get bad enough, America will finally start looking inward. 

Correct again. America is like a junkie. Only when (not if but when) liberalism drops America into the gutter fiscally, culturally, socially, and literally, will conservatism bring America back to it senses.

79 posted on 01/03/2013 2:04:35 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: madprof98

What most of the people commenting on this thread fail to recognize is that a society without a strong family basis cannot continue very long into the future, perhaps not even for another generation.

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I’ve always said; “As goes the American Family - so goes America.” Of course, this isn’t new. Rome and Greece were once great too. But culture rot sets in and no republic, no empire, no democracy or kingdom can or should endure.


80 posted on 01/03/2013 2:05:19 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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