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New Documentary Claims Hitler Died In 1965, Did Not Commit Suicide After WWII
Mediaite ^ | 12/30/12 | Anjali Sareen

Posted on 12/30/2012 4:51:05 PM PST by Borges

According to director/producer Noam Shalev and researcher Pablo Weschler, Adolf Hitler lived out his last days in an luxurious Argentinian hotel, instead of committing suicide in a Berlin bunker as previously thought. Their new documentary, Hitler in Argentina, attempts to make their case and is set to be released next year.

Shalev doesn’t claim to be 100 percent certain about his theory. “We will never know the truth,” he says. “But there is enough evidence to build an alternative theory about what happened to Hitler.”

Weschler adds, “No one believed the Russians’ story of Hitler’s suicide in the bunker. As early as the summer of 1945, there were headlines asking, ‘Where is Hitler?’ all over the world.”

Recently declassified FBI documents were the push to Shalev and Weschler to begin their film. They long believed that British intelligence officer and historian Hugh Trevor-Roper’s investigation into Hitler’s death was “unprofessional,” because Russian troops did not allow access to many forensic investigators.

“In those days, the FBI, not the CIA, was responsible for South America,” says Weschler. “And in declassified documents, we see that the FBI took very seriously the possibility that Hitler fled to Argentina.”

In fact, the FBI was so convinced of this possibility that they set up a special unit to investigate. Shalev and Weschler believe they can determine Hitler’s exact whereabouts after WWII. Italian journalist Patrick Burnside wrote a book entitled Hitler’s Escape about the dictator’s journey, and the pair used it as a guide.

“The Eden Hotel in La Falda, Cordoba [in Argentina] was owned by Ida and Walter Eichhorn, who were close friends of Hitler,” Weschler explains. “Hitler sent them a Mercedes Benz as a gift. It was the first Benz in Argentina.”

According to an FBI letter from September 1945, it was believed the Eichhorns would provide Hitler shelter if he ever needed it. Weschler also claims to have found former hotel employees who say they met Hitler and waited on him after the war.

The most important evidence to Shalev and Weschler comes in the form of DNA testing done on Hitler’s skill fragments in 2009, fragments that were recovered from the Berlin bunker.

“They showed that they couldn’t have been Hitler’s skull because they were from a woman under 40,” Weschler says. “The more you look into it, the less credible the official version becomes, and the more plausible an alternative theory seems.”


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1 posted on 12/30/2012 4:51:11 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Is this an Oliver Stone documentary ... or something!

We will never know the truth, so why not give an alternate theory. Guess he’s sure no one can disprove him.


2 posted on 12/30/2012 4:55:36 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Borges
adolph eichman ended his career by giving it all up to the OSS. They brought him to America, then turned him loose. His next job was to buy the Indianapolis trolly system and ship it to Argentina ~ he accompanied the shipment and wasn't seen until years later.

GM was very interested in buying up trolleys and interurbans and getting them shipped out of the country ~ they wanted to sell cars, and imagined they could push the issue of building better roads for those cars to ride on if there were no rail options for local and regional travel.

Sounds bizarre, but they worked with others to dismantle interurban systems and city trollies. They didn't get them all though.

Now, how was it the US government ended up with a serious ownership position in the new GM as it took over the old GM records?

Was it the Eichman connection, or maybe it was Hitler, or other henchmen! And why is it Obamugabe finds it so easy to work with these guys if he is not, himself, a Nazi?

3 posted on 12/30/2012 4:59:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Borges

Hitler blew his brains out in that bunker. Stalin used what was left of his skull as an ashtray.

End of story.


4 posted on 12/30/2012 4:59:31 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Borges

Nah. Not possible for Adolph to keep his yap shut. He would have had books and propaaganda speeches for a fifth reich within a few years if he had lived.


5 posted on 12/30/2012 5:00:24 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Borges

“Hitler sent them a Mercedes Benz as a gift. It was the first Benz in Argentina.”

Did he send over a mechanic to service/work on it, for them? Parts?

Just wondering.


6 posted on 12/30/2012 5:01:29 PM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Happy & Healthy New Year!)
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To: K-oneTexas

“We will never know the truth,” he says. “But there is enough evidence to make a guy rich.”


7 posted on 12/30/2012 5:01:48 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: Fred Nerks

Ping! Thought you would be entertained by this.


8 posted on 12/30/2012 5:03:07 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: K-oneTexas

I thought he lived in a Argentinian penthouse suite with Elvis, JFK, Howard Hughes, Jimmy Hoffa, and Amelia Earhart all on the same floor.


9 posted on 12/30/2012 5:03:53 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Borges

Reminds me of an old episode of “Soap.”


10 posted on 12/30/2012 5:04:15 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Borges

These days I’m willing to believe anything is possible. Afterall, Howdy Doody was re-elected.


11 posted on 12/30/2012 5:04:35 PM PST by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: haroldeveryman

Good idea. Get a theory that can’t be proved or disproved and get a bunch of investors and a book deal or two.

Hummmm? Sounds like it could be used elsewhere too.


12 posted on 12/30/2012 5:07:12 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Lurker

Plus the Soviets recovered the body and discreetly disposed of it after cremation in the 60s or 70s.

I think that got publicized after the Stasi archives were made public.


13 posted on 12/30/2012 5:08:32 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Borges

“They showed that they couldn’t have been Hitler’s skull because they were from a woman under 40,”

So “Hitler was really a woman” will be my next book.


14 posted on 12/30/2012 5:08:41 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: Borges

Joe Stalin lived in Peoria until last year, he traded pork bellies for a living.


15 posted on 12/30/2012 5:10:49 PM PST by izzatzo
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To: Borges

Barnum was right.


16 posted on 12/30/2012 5:11:21 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Borges

I have a copy of a Readers Digest Article in 1963 proposing that Hitler was a live in South America. At that time it was a real possibility.


17 posted on 12/30/2012 5:13:35 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: Borges
DNA says the skull found in the bunker was not his.

From many years of watching police procedurals I can confidently say "No body, no dead."

18 posted on 12/30/2012 5:14:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Borges

Hitler was alive. I know because I saw him when we rode in a black helicopter together.


19 posted on 12/30/2012 5:14:42 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: Borges
He's still alive at the center of the Earth. Jake Busey put his brain in a robot. A fine company like The Asylum wouldn't have made a movie out of it if it wasn't true.
20 posted on 12/30/2012 5:15:37 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Cvengr
"I thought he lived in a Argentinian penthouse suite with Elvis, JFK, Howard Hughes, Jimmy Hoffa, and Amelia Earhart all on the same floor."

Come on now. That's just silly.

Everyone knows they're all partners in a Burger King at the Kalamazoo MI exit on I94.

Elvis works the late night drive through.
21 posted on 12/30/2012 5:21:51 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Borges
Italian journalist Patrick Burnside

Is he related to Irish journalist Pietro Bianchi?

22 posted on 12/30/2012 5:23:48 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Borges
The main reason I say “bull” on this is that according to Hitler's medical records, he had mid-stage Parkinson's disease and had lost most control of his left arm. He also was thought to has suffered a stroke and possibly brain damage as a result of the Assassination attempt which also ruptured his ear drums. On top of all that, he was a raging morphine addict. In other words, at the end he was a physical wreck. Virtually every expert that has reviewed the records has said he had less than five years to live anyway when he killed himself in the bunker.
23 posted on 12/30/2012 5:25:01 PM PST by apillar
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To: Borges; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

My dad knew him when we were living (in exile) in Paraguay. Now it can be told.


24 posted on 12/30/2012 5:25:30 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: tumblindice
On the Moon.


25 posted on 12/30/2012 5:29:52 PM PST by null and void (Socialism: Equal parts dumb and evil, in a blender.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Newspapers in Mexico run stories like this two or three times a year.


26 posted on 12/30/2012 5:31:00 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Cvengr
I thought he lived in a Argentinian penthouse suite with Elvis, JFK, Howard Hughes, Jimmy Hoffa, and Amelia Earhart all on the same floor.

You can find a picture of Elvis and Michael Jackson living in a single wide.

http://www.datehookup.com/Thread-333321.htm

27 posted on 12/30/2012 5:32:08 PM PST by Hope for the Republic (The 1st amendment is protected by the 2nd amendment)
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To: Candor7

As if it’s not strange enough that an unidentified muslim was elected for a second term as POTUS?


28 posted on 12/30/2012 5:33:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: null and void

Robot Hitler’s on the Moon now? Well, he threatened to go there and set up rocket bases and then blow up all of Earth’s non-Aryan races, and we did nothing to stop him.


29 posted on 12/30/2012 5:37:28 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Borges

30 posted on 12/30/2012 5:40:11 PM PST by wolficatZ (Hey blue states....Got Food?)
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To: K-oneTexas

I favor the north minehead scenario myself as well documented by Monty Python.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg


31 posted on 12/30/2012 5:40:41 PM PST by xp38
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To: Lurker

%%% Hitler blew his brains out in that bunker. Stalin used what was left of his skull as an ashtray.

End of story. %%%

Please cite a veritable source, else it is less believable than the documentary


32 posted on 12/30/2012 5:41:00 PM PST by wrench (I want my country back)
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To: Borges

33 posted on 12/30/2012 5:42:04 PM PST by wolficatZ (Hey blue states....Got Food?)
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To: tumblindice; null and void

34 posted on 12/30/2012 5:42:08 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Borges

I was just watching HELLBOY and the old dude explained to the young FBI agent that Hitler died in 1965.

FBI agent: ‘Hitler died in 1945..”

OLD DUDE: ‘did he now?’


35 posted on 12/30/2012 5:43:33 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Borges
Let me guess...Bin Laden is now living in that luxury apartment...
36 posted on 12/30/2012 5:49:54 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Shadow44; neverdem

I’ll go with the Soviet’s (Stalin’s) obsession ....

He was NOT going to leave Berlin alive.

On the other hand, I don’t understand the “obsession” with certain neo-liberals (re-writers ??) of history who seem almost determined to “want” him alive.


37 posted on 12/30/2012 5:52:15 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: muawiyah

You’ve got to be joking on this one, right?


38 posted on 12/30/2012 5:52:58 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Borges

They had to ‘kill off’ Hitler so that the Nazi’s would give up.


39 posted on 12/30/2012 5:53:26 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: K-oneTexas; Lurker

Did you two not read the article? The skull that was claimed to be Hitler’s was found out to be a 40 year old woman.


40 posted on 12/30/2012 5:54:57 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Borges
Hitler Lives--Rosalie Allen (1947)
41 posted on 12/30/2012 5:57:44 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Fight on!)
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To: Borges

The best evidence for Hilter surviving the war is the Hellboy movie.


42 posted on 12/30/2012 5:58:14 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: autumnraine

Did you not realize the bit of fun when you see it. Did you not realize ... that this yokel’s attempt is perpetrated every day. As was said possibly another get rich quick scheme or a new way to re-write history. Which seems to be the rage. Guess he has lots of time to sit around and think up these ideas.


43 posted on 12/30/2012 5:58:40 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: wolficatZ

Yep, that’s him.


44 posted on 12/30/2012 5:59:08 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Borges

45 posted on 12/30/2012 6:04:05 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: K-oneTexas

Sorry if you were being funny.

But the Nazi/Argentina rumor has been around since months after the bunker was discovered.


46 posted on 12/30/2012 6:05:20 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Borges

Ja! Mr. Hilter! Ve know!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU5aWyK9MRk


47 posted on 12/30/2012 6:05:36 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Borges
You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! But I'll say it anyway....

Everybody knows that old Adolf, using the nom de guerre Hilter, lived for many years in a small boarding house in Minehead, Somerset, along with Ron Vibbentrop and Heinrich Bimmler.

I saw it on the telly. So there.

48 posted on 12/30/2012 6:06:27 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: Borges
The Bureau for Paranormal Research and Defense
49 posted on 12/30/2012 6:07:20 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Borges; SunkenCiv
They long believed that British intelligence officer and historian Hugh Trevor-Roper’s investigation into Hitler’s death was “unprofessional,” because Russian troops did not allow access to many forensic investigators.

Not true. HTR was allowed unhindered access the Bunker and he was able to interview Harry Mengershausen who admitted to burying Hitler's remains and took HTR to the burial spot.
50 posted on 12/30/2012 6:17:41 PM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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