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ABC News: ‘Unlikely’ Assault Weapons Ban Would Have Stopped Sandy Hook ^ | 12/19/12 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 12/19/2012 3:45:49 PM PST by ColdOne

Today, ABC News finally reported the blindingly obvious fact that Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s beloved assault weapons ban – a piece of legislation now favored by President Obama – would not have prevented the Sandy Hook shootings. Here’s what they said:

Could a Ban Have Prevented the Connecticut Shootings?

It's impossible to say for sure, but it seems unlikely that if the law were still in place, as it was written, it could have done much to prevent Friday's tragedy. Lanza's primary weapon, the Bushmaster .223 rifle, is a type of AR-15 semiautomatic rifle, certain models of which were prohibited from being sold under the ban, but the Bushmaster model used by Lanza was not on that list.

Additionally, the language in the law was loose enough that a gun enthusiast who was interested in adding a type of AR-15 to their collection could have purchased one legally.

In fact, ABC News even admitted that the assault weapons ban passed by Congress in 1994 didn’t work in the first place:

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2012; ar15; awb; banglist; bushmaster; gunfreezone; lanza; newtown; sandyhook
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To: ColdOne

It’s my understanding that the rifle used in the mass shootings in CT was legal under the state’s gun ban law.

51 posted on 12/19/2012 6:44:07 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: ColdOne

Doesn’t Connecticut have an AWB?

52 posted on 12/19/2012 6:44:40 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: sirchtruth

No way of knowing. How many people did McVeigh kill?

How many did 19 muslims kill with box cutters?

What is a liberal gungrabber doing here?

Lay off the pot as it makes you stupid boy.

53 posted on 12/19/2012 6:48:15 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: ColdOne

M-16s and AK-47s are assault weapons.

An AR15 is not.

There isn’t one army in the world that would even consider using it. There isn’t a police department in the entire nation that uses it.

It fires only one round at a time. The round is lethal, of course, but so is a .22 pistol when the target is a 5 year old.

54 posted on 12/19/2012 7:11:07 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Travis McGee

I believe in arming the right teachers. Like having air marshalls on board planes.

The USA is about 38 times larger than Israel in population. However in that poster it has about a 40 to 1 murder rate when compared to Israel. The USA’s murder ratio in their schools are slightly higher than their population ratio of Israels. Therefore despite Israel arming its teachers with military assualt rifles. Its school murders is comparable to the USA.

This could make it a hard sell. Obviously it is a matter of culture and necessity.

55 posted on 12/19/2012 7:12:01 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Gun bans do not prevent crimes,they prevent citizens from defending themselves.

CT is one of those states that have "sane and reasonable" laws as a "reasonable first start". While they never promised in writing that crimes like this would be impossible in CT, it was strongly implied, and applauded.

So if CT is so far along, and already took that "first step", what is their their "sane and reasonable" second step? Can they provide measurable metrics that we can use to evaluate their success? If they have third and fourth steps ready, why not announce and implement them now, rather than endangering innocent people by holding back?

A crisis occurs. It can't be allowed to go to waste, so roll out all the old, tired, and phony buzzwords, pretend they're brilliant new ideas, and hope nobody looks back at the previous example of them dancing on the bodies of innocent people.

56 posted on 12/19/2012 7:16:11 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: ColdOne

A friend of mine owns a gun shop and is a gunsmith - so he has a lot of metal working tools. He also sells guns with the “bullet button” on them.

We were talking about the “bullet button” the other night and went to his shop where he fashioned a “bullet button extractor” in about an hour.

It clips to the rifle, is spring-loaded, and can be operated with one finger. When you want to change the clip, you pull the slide with one finger while holding the mag in order to release the mag, and then release the slide [the spring returns it to the original position.

If you have guerilla-taped the mag, you then flip it over and snap the new one into place.

Takes about 1/2 second longer than with a non bullet-buttoned gun [we tested it].

Basically no difference - costs about $15 in parts and an hour to make ...

57 posted on 12/19/2012 7:49:56 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: ColdOne
More then 20 children could have been killed with a machete type knife at this very same school on this very same day. And no one would have had the ability to stop him until the police showed up. I'm also sick of hearing how a security guard could have prevented all of this. No, if you have one security guard he becomes target number one. Also, the shooter broke a window to get in, a “buzzer and sign in” system isn't going to stop anything, yet our local schools continue to do this and think all is fine. The day after the murders my husband brought my daughters sneakers to school, she had forgotten them. She's at a new school this year. He did not know the secretary that let him in, pushed the buzzer and said I have sneakers for so and so. Door pops open. Of course two feet away was the life size fire classroom escape window, not hard to get in and banning one type of gun will stop nothing.
58 posted on 12/19/2012 8:10:15 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: JRandomFreeper

They gonna be singing Kumbayah at that camp?

59 posted on 12/19/2012 9:55:25 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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To: Redcitizen
Probably. The left isn't known for innovation, once they got to the kill the independent farmers stage about 100 years ago.


60 posted on 12/19/2012 9:57:35 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ColdOne
If Lanza didn't have access to firearms he have found another deadly device to let loose.
61 posted on 12/20/2012 12:33:12 AM PST by oyez (Hell must be a Gun Free Zone.)
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To: Yo-Yo

States Rights Issue? Not if it Violates the Federal Constitution.

By your logic, a State could invalidate Free Speech. How about California outlawing Free Republic, you up for that?

Shall not be infringed, NOT “may” not be infringed by a Blue State run by Commie Bastards.

And yes, I am fully aware that the United States of America is currently run by Commie Bastards.

62 posted on 12/20/2012 1:08:39 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (They Live, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: sirchtruth
Stop making stupidass comments and answer the question, if the guy had a knife how many would have died?

If he locked himself in a classroom he could have killed quite a few. That dude in China stabbed over twenty kids. Don't know if any died though.

A gallon of gas and a lighter and you can kill a bunch of people. Mass murderers will find a way.

63 posted on 12/20/2012 5:27:53 AM PST by USAF80
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To: ColdOne
If the extreme of the total disarming of the civilian population works, how do you explain the 40,000+ murders a year in Mexico?

Almost "nobody" owns guns in Mexico (legally). Somehow, mass murder and mayhem of innocents are off the charts!

64 posted on 12/20/2012 8:22:09 AM PST by Gritty (If any of the Western world is to survive, it has to find a way to turn around, to go back-Mk Steyn)
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To: sirchtruth


65 posted on 12/20/2012 8:46:58 AM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

did you see Gretchen Carlson again harping on about guns?

As a mother do we want to see men in the schools with guns, er guns have bene around for hundreds of years with kids.Or having teachers with guns.

Maybe if she stopped drying her boy at aged 7 and giving him a bath and have him grow up a little and stop moaing about easy bake overns for her boy then perharps the kid will be ready for the world .

The other guy came up with a great response, he mentioned out in WA where the shooter shot two people , gun jammed and a shopper wiht a gun pointed it at the shooter and then the shooter quickly shot himself.

66 posted on 12/20/2012 8:53:01 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Even Megyn Kelly, who I used to adore, is going off the deep end with this gun control nonsense. I get how she is reacting emotionally to this since she has children but good God its a shame seeing some on Fox News going off the deep end like that and sounding like leftists

67 posted on 12/20/2012 10:41:20 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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