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Judge: Hobby Lobby must offer morning-after pill
Associated Press ^ | 11/19/2012 | TIM TALLEY

Posted on 11/19/2012 9:00:22 PM PST by haffast

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The Green family also own and operate a chain of Christian bookstores.

http://www.mardel.com/

http://hobbylobby.com/

1 posted on 11/19/2012 9:00:39 PM PST by haffast
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http://www.mardel.com/

http://hobbylobby.com/

(For the phone users) :)


2 posted on 11/19/2012 9:02:03 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: haffast
Only one thing to do: Close shop.
3 posted on 11/19/2012 9:03:16 PM PST by Dogbert41 (What now?)
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I’ll miss them. but yes. That is what is left.


4 posted on 11/19/2012 9:09:25 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: haffast

Terrible.


5 posted on 11/19/2012 9:10:54 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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"Plaintiffs have not cited, and the court has not found, any case concluding that secular, for-profit corporations such as Hobby Lobby and Mardel have a constitutional right to the free exercise of religion," the ruling said.

To me, this statement seems absurd in the extreme.
6 posted on 11/19/2012 9:11:21 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thank-you!


7 posted on 11/19/2012 9:13:09 PM PST by haffast
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Drop your employee’s insurance and pay the fine. It’s cheaper. Tell your employees that you’re sorry but ‘talk to the 0bama.’


8 posted on 11/19/2012 9:14:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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"Only one thing to do: Close shop"

I think they have an option to make all employees part-time. Of course, that would be destructive in many ways.

9 posted on 11/19/2012 9:14:48 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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I don’t know why this is so hard, the answer is simple, the STate using the Kelo decision as legal grounds, should immediately begin seizing the Homes of Federal Employees, starting with all Federal Employees classified as Public Servants and use the proceeds to pay for the Requirements imposed on their citizens by Obamacare. definitely satisfies the economic need requirement of Kelo.


10 posted on 11/19/2012 9:17:59 PM PST by eyeamok
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Corporations, as collective groups of citizen-investors-owners
are not protected by the Bill of Rights.

News to me.

Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton. et al might have differed.


11 posted on 11/19/2012 9:20:40 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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Option 2: drop all insurance, pay the fine and let the employees see how wonderful Obamacare’s Exchange policies are.


12 posted on 11/19/2012 9:29:43 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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In his ruling denying Hobby Lobby's request for an injunction, Heaton said that while churches and other religious organizations have been granted constitutional protection from the birth-control provisions, "Hobby Lobby and Mardel are not religious organizations."

In his decision the judge seems to recognize the rights of some organizations. It begs the question; do only religious organizations have religious rights? What about individuals? Apparently an individual who owns a business does not.

13 posted on 11/19/2012 9:30:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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Problem with that is the fine is used to pay for the very things they are against.


14 posted on 11/19/2012 9:30:54 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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“Plaintiffs have not cited, and the court has not found, any case concluding that secular, for-profit corporations such as Hobby Lobby and Mardel have a constitutional right to the free exercise of religion,” the ruling said.”

Maybe something like,,”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;,,”

Says nothing about secullar,, for-profit,,only individuals,, nothing. Just says “shall make no law,, free exercise”


15 posted on 11/19/2012 9:32:49 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cableguymn

It’s less though. It’s not voluntary it’s forced at the point of a gun so no karma is accrued.


16 posted on 11/19/2012 9:33:28 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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If I were CEO of Hobby Lobby I would issue an internal order to HR, the law department, and the person responsible for negotiating emplyoee health insurance to ignore this Judge and Obama. See ya in court again.


17 posted on 11/19/2012 9:36:54 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: TigersEye
Either way it is just what Obama wants... he wants every American forced off of private insurance plans and onto government assistance, and if you pay the fine he still wins, because those employees will have to go on the government plan. This is pure evil...coercion. Maybe the solution is to have well paid subcontractors instead, but then Obama will get them onto the government entitlement because then THEY will have to pay the fine or sign up for the plan instead of Hobby Lobby.
18 posted on 11/19/2012 9:38:58 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Don’t pay the fine. Salt away a lot of cash that they can’t find.

Then when prepared, refuse to pay the fine, OR offer morning after pill. Force the Kenyan to send federal marshalls to physically close the stores. Put huge signs out front of each closed store, “Closed by Order of Obama”.

The Ba$tard does not want the fight. He desperately wants threats to force compliance. If that fails, then he must act and look like he dictator he is. He does not want the bad “optics”, and we can force it upon him.


19 posted on 11/19/2012 9:39:43 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: piasa

OK.


20 posted on 11/19/2012 9:40:07 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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