Skip to comments.Conceding the Point
Posted on 11/18/2012 4:51:52 PM PST by Alex Baker
Republicans have their guns blazing, shooting themselves in the foot. One way that conservatives regularly harm themselves is that they start an argument by conceding defeat. They take the false premises of the enemy as the starting point of their own argument. If step one of your defense is to agree with your opponent, you are helping them more than you are helping yourself.
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal gave us an example of this technic on Monday. He called on Republicans to stop being the stupid party . He said, We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.
Does he believe that conservative principles of limited government are only good for wealthy people? This is exactly what his opponents believe and they express it in almost the same way he does. Jindal accepted and repeated their premise. If he understood conservative principles, he would argue that liberty and limited government are the keys to prosperity for all. The stupid party is the party that thinks otherwise, against all evidence of history.
Bill Kristol showed that he accepts the premise of the Democrats when he said a few days ago, It wont kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires I dont really understand why Republicans dont take Obamas offer. Why, he wondered, should we defend a bunch of millionaires.
Does Kristol not understand what Kennedy and Reagan understood when they argued that tax increases in a recession will slow growth and decrease government revenues. The argument is not about millionaires. Its about rational tax policy. Why not make that argument rather than concede the argument with the language of the left.
Go Here for the rest of this good analysis: http://www.realitybatslast.com/2012/11/14/conceding-the-point/
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I think the 160% turnout for Obama in some areas had a lot to do with it.
Thank you: a small bit of sanity in a world gone mad.
OK. So we fight them to the death on this issue. What happens? The Republicans get the blame as being the party of the rich. That’s just not so. The majority of millionaires and billionaires support and vote for the Democrats. It’s time to call the Democrat bluff. Go ahead and raise the rate on the rich. We’ll see if they keep supporting the Democrats. If I was a Republican legislator and this came up for a vote, I’d pull an Obama and vote “present”.
Republicans aren’t angry at themselves...they’re HIDING from the conservative American voter!!!
snip—”In 1982, the Republican National Committee (RNC) and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) entered into a consent decree (the Decree or Consent Decree), which is national in scope, limiting the RNCs ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the courts approval in advance. “
snip—”Surprise! The judge who denied the RNCs appeal to vacate the 1982 Consent Decree is an Obama appointee, Judge Joseph Greenaway, Jr., of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit.”
Contact the GOP with this and ask for an explanation—I did. I also told them this was going viral and that they were going to lose membership because if THIS is the kind of “deals” they make with the RATS, everyone should change their affiliation to “Independent”.
Republicans didn’t stay home. Everybody who voted for McCain also voted for Romney. Everybody ~ that is ~ who could still vote. You have to check out how many Republicans died since the last election.
I don’t have room for those feelings. When Obama won, my only emotion was resolute, calm terror.
The same thing I believe I’d feel sitting in a WWI trench knowing I have to go over the top in 10 minutes. And I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be thinking about who I should blame for starting the war or how I got where I was.
Then we are really in trouble.
And I agree with the previous post about voter fraud. Should have listed that one with the others.
Does this moron think he's running in 2016?
The country is already dead, republican should offer to let Obama kill what is left of it, provide he allow any state that wishes to withdraw to do so in peace.
I saw him whackin this morning on FNS. I don't know what, or if, he's thinking.
D@mn straight we will take him out just like we did that RINO Romney.
Not if he makes statements like that.
We who believe in equally & EQUAL justice FOR ALL, regardless of how much money they make(or any other attribute) can not bend a kneed to such talk.
But fine, take all the rich have see how it wreaks the economy, and all real chances at future property. I hope every last one of them leaves these united States because they should not have to put up with that kind of discrimination!
Just as we should not have to put up with So called “conservative” leaders seeking to do injustice to one group in favor of anther.
What a stupid thing to say.
The truly rich, the trust funders and coupon clippers, the ones who vote Democrat, won't be affected a whit.
The entrepreneurs who actually run businesses -- and employ a sub-chaper S tax filing -- will be crushed.
Teresa Heinz doesn't hire people. The automobile dealers hire armies of people...if they can.
If Conservative Congressmen want to concede defeat without conceding principle, they should tell Obama they will neither support nor oppose his financial policies, voting present on any spending/revenue bills; & tell the majority voters that they will now get what they asked for: economic collapse.
Since Harry Reid has ignored all House originated spending bills, the Pubs in the House should introduce NO spending/revenue bills & NO amendments to Rat bills. Idled Pub Congressmen can spend their time exposing Obama’s disastrous policies.
When the banks close & the debit/credit cards don't work, maybe then even the Hollywood crowd will get hungry enough to question the One.
Think I'm exaggerating? Ask anybody in Spain, Greece, or Iceland!
I took just enough Judo to learn how to fall without getting hurt. I did manage to pick up some of the other methods. One of these is to use your opponent’s attack against him. I think that this method is possible in this case. I am against increasing taxes. That seems counterintuitive to the Democrats. I don’t think we have time to educate them. We just have to beat them for awhile. They want us to defend tax increases on the rich. Then they tell their base, “See! They only care about the rich!” Use Judo. Use their attack against them. Use the energy from their attack and throw them on the floor. Meet them head on and be defeated.
“Understand yourself and understand your opponents, and in one hundred battles, you will not be defeated.”
The rich who got there by providing services and building things are the ones who I happily endorse.