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1 posted on 11/17/2012 3:30:39 PM PST by RightOnline
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Secession? Let THEM Secede.

Practically speaking THEY already did.

...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ...

When elected officials and bureaucracies act outside the law they are simply lawbreakers. When the majority of the people vote in favor of the lawlessness that has greatly manifested itself in the highest offices they have withdrawn their consent to be governed by a constitutional government. By what legitimate basis does the United States of America, as a Constitutional republic, still exist?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

'The People' no longer support that. They voted in support of lawlessness from the highest office on down. They voted against the rule of law. By referendum we now have a banana republic. The USAINO.

2 posted on 11/17/2012 3:35:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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Those red counties, doesnt mean that they are all red, just 51 percent or more. Those blue counties, doesnt mean that they are all blue, but usually more than 51%....right up to 100%.

This is not a clear picture.


3 posted on 11/17/2012 3:36:06 PM PST by Chickensoup
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They won’t secede. We are the host bodies. They are the bloodsucking ticks. They feed on our lifeblood. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. One way or another.


4 posted on 11/17/2012 3:38:57 PM PST by greene66
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good point. we are better armed, after all.


5 posted on 11/17/2012 3:39:15 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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Arizona, South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi look scary with all the blue within their borders. I guess Arizona especially.


6 posted on 11/17/2012 3:39:28 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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My vote is to make it so that you are either a land owner or own a business,(as is those that pay to bills) to be eligible to vote.

There used to be a saying, “He who pays control me”. But unfortunately, it has become, “He who receives controls me.”


7 posted on 11/17/2012 3:39:28 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Our military does not kill babies, those that commit abortion kill babies.)
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“Our country is now run by Democrat-run, large cities...on the coasts and in the upper-Midwest.”

The map clearly shows this. It is striking that it is cities with Ghetto voters than lean Dem and entitlement state. I no longer believe in universal suffrage. I don’t care about one’s race or skin color...but strongly question if persons living in ghettos (that don’t pay income tax) should even be allowed to vote. I wonder if all those that paid no income tax in the past few years (not talking about the retired worker...but folks that do not work nor desire to) had not been allowed to vote....how would it have affected the election???

I am also questioning IF voters under 18 (not serving in the military) should be voting? It was a mistake in 1971 to lower the national voting age to 18.


8 posted on 11/17/2012 3:40:38 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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Thanks, this is right on the button!
9 posted on 11/17/2012 3:41:22 PM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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“These corrupt, Democrat-controlled sewers are dictating to the rest of us via sheer, concentrated numbers in highly compressed areas.”

They are properly called Ghettos!


10 posted on 11/17/2012 3:42:29 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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Agreed that the map you posted isn’t indicative of what it really looks like in this country. See below:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/


11 posted on 11/17/2012 3:42:34 PM PST by vikk
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Wait, every state has the right to petition the federal government, every citizen has the right to petition the federal government..if they no long wish to be part of the United States, let them step away and be an independent country.
After all we are just fifty countries/states bound together for common defense. (Well, in the old days anyway)
I am trying to figure out why so called conservatives are more upset about this issue than liberals are.


12 posted on 11/17/2012 3:45:29 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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These little pockets of blue hold huge numbers of people under Democrat rule, living off of red-Staters' largesse via Uncle Sam.

Just one problem with this theory.

On average, blue states pay more to the federal government than they receive in services, while of course on average red states take in more than they pay out.

This is primarily because blue states on average are wealthier than red states.

I have no idea how such an analysis would play out on the county level.

15 posted on 11/17/2012 3:54:09 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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These corrupt, Democrat-controlled sewers are dictating to the rest of us via sheer, concentrated numbers in highly compressed areas.

Those areas are the smelly sewer of the Country. Full of communists and pot heads. They have no loyalty to America but to their greed and willingness to steal from the rest of America.

16 posted on 11/17/2012 3:56:11 PM PST by Logical me
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I prefer "dissolution of the ties that bind us", since we, liberals and conservatives, are so far apart politically and philosophically. I just do not see a way to bridge the gap that now exists and continues to grow wider with each year.

I seriously believe it would be in the interest of both parties to go their separate ways; I think they would be better off without the encumbrance of what liberals call the "enemy". They truly hate conservatives more than radical muslims, communists, and dictators.

Conservatives cannot fathom how liberals expect the nation to function, nay survive, if they continue to take more and more and more from the producers and just hand it over to the lazy (after passing through government hands, of course!).

Conservatives cannot understand why liberals do not want to defend this country instead of tearing it down at every opportunity. So I say give the liberals a nation of their own and let them tear it down. You know it won't last long.

Give them the UN, let them take away all gun rights, put everyone not a certified millionaire on welfare, tax the bejeezus out of the remaining millionaires (and watch said millionaires flee the liberal nation), and see how long it all lasts.

Conservatives can then get their own nation with undeniable gun and property ownership rights, a compliant small government, a judiciary under the thumb of the people (instead of the way it is now), an uncorrupt electoral process, and very free people with low crime rate.

18 posted on 11/17/2012 4:04:13 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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If preserving the Union means national suicide, no thanks. Let those desiring Socialism stay on the USS Titanic steaming off to Utopia, and the rest of desiring Constitutional freedom and liberty disembark now.


21 posted on 11/17/2012 4:12:34 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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The blue areas will suffer the most in an economic collapse and this map tells us the reason: LAND. In an emergency, those w/o access to land will lack water and the ability to store and produce food. Land is also critical for maintaining hygiene and security. When the ‘just-in-time’ food chain fails inflation hits, credit and EBT cards freeze up, the welfare mobs will keep the military and the police very busy in the blue areas. The red areas will be the place to be. The gene pool might even improve.
Just think of red- oxygenated, blue- deoxygenated.


26 posted on 11/17/2012 4:16:11 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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Pray for Obama and Congress. God said so.

For kings and all who are in positions of authority or high responsibility, that [outwardly] we may pass a quiet and undisturbed life [and inwardly] a peaceable one in all godliness and reverence and seriousness in every way.
1 Timothy 2:2

Obama and Congress were placed in power by God.

Everyone must submit to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist are instituted by God.  So then, the one who resists the authority is opposing God’s command, and those who oppose it will bring judgment on themselves.  For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have its approval. For government is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, because it does not carry the sword for no reason. For government is God’s servant, it is an avenger that brings wrath on the one who does wrong.  Therefore, you must submit, not only because of wrath, but also because of your conscience. And for this reason you pay taxes, since the authorities are God’s public servants, continually attending to these tasks.
Romans 13:1-6

Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right. For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men. Act as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God. Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.
2 Peter 2:13-17

God says despising government means you’re twisted sexually too.

He is especially hard on those who follow their own twisted sexual desire, and who despise authority. These people are proud and arrogant, daring even to scoff at supernatural beings without so much as trembling.
2 Peter 2:10

If Obama and the Democratic Senate are your enemies, then you are commanded to love your enemies, not hate or curse them.

“Love your enemies! Do good to them. Lend to them without expecting to be repaid. Then your reward from heaven will be very great, and you will truly be acting as children of the Most High, for he is kind to those who are unthankful and wicked.
Luke 6:35

But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Matthew 5:44-48

Bless those who persecute you. Don’t curse them; pray that God will bless them.
Romans 12:14

Recent prophetic word on November 12, 2012 echoing the above verses.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2960035/posts

 


28 posted on 11/17/2012 4:18:59 PM PST by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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The map says that I need to move over a county, or two.


31 posted on 11/17/2012 4:21:34 PM PST by madison10
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The places with the most people are by and large Dim the places with the most land are GOP...unfortunately land don't vote...
33 posted on 11/17/2012 4:23:02 PM PST by montanajoe
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To win, we have to neutralize the media. How do you propose to do that?


39 posted on 11/17/2012 4:31:59 PM PST by rcofdayton
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