And here you are all piling on yldstrk because she had children that were easy to raise. That’s just plain stupid. There isn’t a literal one size fits all answer that goes in every family — temperaments DIFFER between children. And... Proverbs are generalities that are true often enough to be worthy of consideration; they are not promises or literal boxes into which the whole world can be forced.
now now Hitech, I had one that was definitely NOT easy to raise, a lot of what I did with him was continue to wait him out, treat him lovingly and love him unconditionally as God loves us and the job is not done yet. I can only imagine what mr. quiverful would have done with this one. No it hasn’t been easy, it has at times been downright dreadful, but I prayed scripture over all of them, that they would grow in stature with God and man, and I set an example of someone who lives a virtuous life, works, worships, tithes.
In fact, Quiverfull’s argument about God loving conditionally applies better to his approach than it does to mine it seems to me.
No, it is not because she had different types of kids, but because of her disallowance of corporal discipline, and attempt to conform Scripture to her belief by excluding any literal meaning in texts on discipline, including disallowing the “rod” to be use that way, which is unwarranted and a slippery slope.
Beside what has been shown as regards “rod” which negate renders it simply as a guide or protector, the following further establishes its use as means of chastisement, physical and spoirtul:
“And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. “ (Exodus 21:20)
“Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; “ (2 Corinthians 11:25)
“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. “ (Revelation 12:5)
“What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness? “ (1 Corinthians 4:21)
“I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: “ (2 Samuel 7:14)
“Let him take his rod away from me, and let not his fear terrify me: “ (Job 9:34)
“If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. “ (Psalms 89:31-32)
“O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation. “ (Isaiah 10:5)
“I am the man that hath seen affliction by the rod of his wrath. “ (Lamentations 3:1)
And in real life there often is physical chastisement for sin.
Be back tomorrow by God’s grace.
EXACTLY what SHE is doing to those of us whose children inherited our not so easy to raise temperament.
If she had easy to raise kids, more power to her.
Those of us graced with strong willed tyrants needed to use stronger means of persuasion to get our kids to obey.