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ABC News: Hey, This Doctor Shortage Could "Crash" Obamacare
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| 11/15/2012
| Guy Benson
Posted on 11/15/2012 8:43:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Just in case the unaffordable price tag and rising costs don't quite do the trick, America's spiraling dearth of doctors will contribute heavily to the collapse of our re-engineered health care system, according to a new study:
The United States will require at least 52,000 more family doctors in the year 2025 to keep up with the growing and increasingly older U.S. population, a new study found. The predictions also reflect the passage of the Affordable Care Act -- a change that will expand health insurance coverage to an additional 38 million Americans. "The health care consumer that values the relationship with a personal physician, particularly in areas already struggling with access to primary care physicians should be aware of potential access challenges that they may face in the future if the production of primary care physicians does not increase," said Dr. Andrew Bazemore, director of the Robert Graham Center for Policy Studies in Primary Care and co-author of the study published Monday in the Annals of Family Medicine. Stephen Petterson, senior health policy researcher at the Robert Graham Center, said the government should take steps -- and quickly -- to address the problem before it gets out of hand. "There needs to be more primary care incentive programs that give a bonus to physicians who treat Medicaid patients in effort to reduce the compensation gap between specialists and primary care physicians," said Petterson, who co-authored the study with Bazemore.
But such changes may be more easily said than done. The problem does not appear to be one of too few doctors in general; in fact, in 2011 a total of 17,364 new doctors emerged from the country's medical schools, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC). Too few of these doctors, however, choose primary care as a career -- an issue that may be worsening. In a 2008 census by the AAMC and the American Medical Association, researchers found that the number of medical graduates choosing a career in family medicine dropped from 5,746 in 2002 to 4,210 in 2007 -- a drop of nearly 27 percent. "It's pretty tough to convince medical students to go into primary care," said Dr. Lee Green, chair of Family Medicine at the University of Alberta, who was not involved with the study. Green added that he believes this is because currently primary care specialties are not well paid, well treated or respected as compared to subspecialists. "They have to think about their debt," he said. "There are also issues of how physicians are respected and how we portray primary care to medical students." These problems loom even larger considering the aim of the Affordable Care Act to provide all Americans with health insurance -- and with it, more regular contact with a primary care doctor.
A maddening pattern: When the government exacerbates problems, many frustrated observers reflexively call for even more federal intervention to mop up the federally-caused mess. The solution to big government run amok is more government involvement, apparently. And before you object to the premise that Obamacare is responsible for the deterioration of our doctor shortage ("this was already becoming a problem before the law was passed," etc), examine the data, including surveys of American doctors. Come to think of it, beyond the obvious and laudable humanitarian reasons, why would an ambitious young college student pursue a career in medicine when he or she could go to law school and make a fine living suing the daylights out of doctors? Meaningful tort reform was conspicuously omitted from Obamacare, thanks to the efforts of the trial lawyers' lobby -- a deep-pocketed Democratic constituency. This ABC News story, authored by a medical doctor, also describes why Romneycare (yeah, remember that?) is a microcosm of brewing larger-scale problems:
Perhaps the best known example of this approach has been Massachusetts, which since 2006 has mandated that every resident obtain health insurance and those that are below the federal poverty level gain free access to health care. But although the state has the second-highest ratio of primary care physicians to population of any state, they are struggling with access to primary care physicians. Dr. Randy Wexler of The John Glenn Institute of Public Service and Policy said he has concerns that this trend could be reflected nationwide. "Who is going to care for these people?" he said. "We are going to have problems just like Massachusetts. [They] are struggling with access problems; it takes one year to get into a primary care physician. Coverage does not equal access." Some have already proposed solutions to this looming problem. One suggestion is that non-physician medical professionals, such as nurse practitioners and physician assistants, can pick up the slack. Doctors, however, said his may not be enough to fill the gap.
The distinction between nominal "coverage" and actual care was a central argument against Obamacare during the battles of 2009 and 2010. And as we know all too well, Romneycare is essentially a pilot program for the entire nation. It has spiked costs, failed to reduce uncompensated care, and resulted in tax increases. Plus, Massachusetts is plagued by this exact doctor shortage issue -- despite being one of the wealthiest states in the country. In places like Canada, citizens are entitled to universal, "free" coverage, but people languish on waiting lists for care, and sometimes resort to lotteries for the chance sign up with a primary care physician. Now that Obamacare is more or less here to stay, Americans had better get accustomed to rationing and waiting. More cracks in Obamacare's facade will appear as the law is fully implemented over the next two years, ultimately culminting in the program's implosion. Liberals are already making pre-emptive excuses for the White House, asking questions such as, "gosh, is this enterprise just too big for the administration to handle?"
By the end of this week, states must decide whether they will build a health-insurance exchange or leave the task to the federal government. The question is, with as many as 17 states expected to leave it to the feds, can the Obama administration handle the workload. “These are systems that typically take two or three years to build,” says Kevin Walsh, managing director of insurance exchange services at Xerox. “The last time I looked at the calendar, that’s not what we’re working with.” When Walsh meets with state officials deciding whether to build a health exchange, he brings a chart. It outlines how to build the insurance marketplace required under the Affordable Care Act. To call it complex would probably be an understatement...A health exchange’s first task is ensuring that those who are eligible for benefits know about them — right now, research suggests three-quarters have no idea. That suggests a huge outreach challenge — and one the federal government may not be ideally suited to completing. Evidence suggests that it works better when it caters to local markets.
The federal government passed a massive piece of legislation that included a voluminous labyrinth of new regulations -- and they might not get it up and running on schedule? Knock me over with a feather. Perhaps the administration should have considered whether its governing apparatus was "ideally suited" to complete core tasks before locking them into place with a law that personally affects tens of millions of Americans. Basic competence should be a key initial threshold question, no? (For more on federal ineptitude and priorities, read this). Meanwhile, the population remains opposed to Obamacare. While ABC's new poll indicates that public opposition may be slackening a bit, the latest Rasmussen national poll of registered voters (their major polling flaw this fall was their likely voter party ID weighting) continues to show majority support for repeal -- an outcome that even most of last Tuesday's D+6 electorate said they would support. The, er, "good" news is that if and when Obamacare's unsustainability proves to be undeniable, liberals will swoop in with the Statist fix they've been angling for all along:
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To: SeekAndFind
Why not accept more applicants to Medical School?
The only ones stupid enough to apply are not ones you would want to be doctors.
51
posted on
11/15/2012 9:13:53 AM PST
by
crosshairs
(America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
To: SeekAndFind
You should see the number of ‘nurses’ bungling the mandatory flu shots for ‘healthcare employees’ in Red Hampshire...injecting in the wrong location has left employees with painful swelling and other unpleasant consequences...a number of employees are freaking out...
52
posted on
11/15/2012 9:14:09 AM PST
by
who knows what evil?
(G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
To: Logical me
Pills from a computer model will be the new doctor.I wonder if the computer models will be as accurate as the globull warming models?
53
posted on
11/15/2012 9:14:19 AM PST
by
JediJones
(Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
To: Average Al
RE: Good luck finding a doctor that accepts new Medicare patients!
If ObamaCare can force a Catholic institution to pay for someone’s contraceptive and abortificent, I can’t see why a law can’t be passed to FORCE Doctors ( under pain of fines or license revocation ) to ACCEPT Medicare patients.
52% of Roman Catholics did not care about what their church stands for and voted for The One.
_______________________________
In Nazi Germany, We elected Adolf Hitler.
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
To: SeekAndFind
The answer is simple: just redefine the requirements of what it takes to become a doctor. You know - just lower the bar so any dummy can become an MD for a song and a dance. And a small fee.
Voila! Plenty of ‘doctors’ now.
55
posted on
11/15/2012 9:14:30 AM PST
by
MichaelCorleone
('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
To: redangus
And Kiran Kareti and Krishna Malineni are probably eying moving to Singapore where they can make money with taking the lash of government.
56
posted on
11/15/2012 9:16:03 AM PST
by
listenhillary
(Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
To: redangus
And Kiran Kareti and Krishna Malineni are probably eying moving to Singapore where they can make money without taking the lash of government.
57
posted on
11/15/2012 9:16:29 AM PST
by
listenhillary
(Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
To: 9YearLurker
Our dogs’ vet told us there is already a shortage of meds for animals. Some drugs are just going away and there are no replacements. Would have loved to have discussed with him the reasons, but I think he wants to be apolitical with clients.
58
posted on
11/15/2012 9:16:29 AM PST
by
sockhead
(Socialism: trickle up poverty.)
To: BlueStateRightist
"And, yes, get ready for your serious medical conditions to be addressed by a salaried physician assistant or nurse practitioner. " This is the answer to the INTENDED consequence of doctor shortages. I have recently discovered that some orthopedic surgeons are allowing MA's to give intra-articular injections! I think we will all remember the day of seeing a LNP or PA as the good old days. I punched out and sold my practice this year. I expect many to join me in the coming days and years.
To: Political Junkie Too
"Now, it seems, they will become slaves to the state, indentured to perform a needed service to the masses."
Mua-HAHaha.
You are correct in observation of correct application of Marxist theory:
All Bourgeoisie becomes slaves to state - then workers.
Welcome to Amerika.
To: dfwgator
“I suspect soon the medical profession will become like the military....you sign up and get your medical education paid, but in return you will go where they send you for your first 10 years.”
Those programs have existed for a long time. The problem is that there is a heck of a lot of training required after medical school, depending on what you wind up doing. From the day I stepped into medical school it was 13 years before I completed all the training I did to do what I do, 9 of those after I completed medical school. If I had gone the military route, my payback time wouldn’t have started until after those 13 years. I feel privileged being a doc. Always have, but it was a pretty bad investment of my time when looked upon economically. A good part of those 9 years when I was getting advanced training I was moonlighting to pay for loans I’d taken out.
Honestly, I don’t care anymore. I’m just tired of being characterized as a villain, most often by people who have never worked that hard. What’s the point? I would never not do my best for a patient, but the joy is out of it in a big way.
To: TigerClaws
Why work if I cant keep the money I make? Ill cover my expenses and make what I need then shut the doors and wait out this four years.
To: Pining_4_TX
And this will any different how? We already have to Patel’s in Evansville. And several Mohammed’s and Hussain’s. It’s most upsetting when a white-American-male can’t get into med school but put a foreigner in the running, they get it hands down. Not sorry that sounds like I’m racist, I’m not, just tired of the crap.
To: BlueStateRightist
Worse care, less frequently (as appointments will be rarer than gold), with fewer phone calls returned. Obama, Pelosi and Reid have destroyed our future.
All of what you say is true. Yet when I try to explain it to a dim they just turn off and refuse to process the information.
Government run health care is really a religion to these people. The fantasy that if the “rich” just pay a little more than everybody can have great health care is an outrageous lie.
I lived much of the last 10 years in Europe. I saw how much the middle class pays for government health care. These dim bulbs who voted for the kenyan have no idea how hard reality is about to hammer them.
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posted on
11/15/2012 9:22:08 AM PST
by
lodi90
To: SeekAndFind
This is ridiculous. FPs are already finding themselves replaced by NPs and PAs.
An NP or PA is as good as an FP--if that NP or PA has lots and lots, years and years, of experience
If he is still wearing braces, run for the hills. The Green ones will kill ya.
We need--trauma surgeons, general surgeons, specialists and internal medicine specialists.
We can deal with the lack of FPs by trying to work NPs and PAs as hard as we can when they are young, so that they become good para-physicians.
That's my 2 cents, not that anyone gives a flip.
I suspect this all comes from the FP licensing boards, or people with a vested financial interest in the dying and increasingly irrelevant specialty of "family practice" --
65
posted on
11/15/2012 9:23:52 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: Godwin1
No problem: we will continue importing unqualified doctors from Third World hellholes. Unqualified??? How do they get their license(s) to practice? Your state operates no testing boards?
66
posted on
11/15/2012 9:26:19 AM PST
by
steve86
(Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ)
To: SeekAndFind
It is very very very very (how many verys do idiots need? How many times have I posted this very thing--?)
EXPENSIVE. it is EXPENSIVE to educate any medical professional.
It's CHEAP to educate a LAWYER. You find walk down basement law schools all over the place.
67
posted on
11/15/2012 9:27:06 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: jsanders2001
Don't insult veterinarians. My father was one. He practiced in a small town back where I was born back in the mid-1950's. There was a single physician in the area as well. When either of them left town, there was a standing agreement that each would look after the other's patients until they returned.
In addition, father had access to the medicine man on the reservation, even though it was half a day's drive away. In those day, the feds basically left Native Americans alone. Modern libtards would say they "neglected" us. But I can tell you for a fact that substance abuse was very rare on father's reservation when I visited as a kid. Our people were also generally more healthy and more mobile and quite inclined to leave the reservation as father did, World War II service and the GI Bill of Rights provided him with the ticket out.
Today, the libtards would arrest the medicine man for practicing without a license and encourage the sale of drugs and fire water so they could create a substance abuse problem big enough to establish an agency there to employ more bureaucrats to take care of us.
68
posted on
11/15/2012 9:27:13 AM PST
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: SeekAndFind
69
posted on
11/15/2012 9:31:15 AM PST
by
ScottinVA
(I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
To: Pining_4_TX
“Look at how many cases of fraud and/or illness caused by lack of proper medical procedures have been at the hands of foreign doctors and nurses.”
And look at how many people have died from the meningitis outbreak caused by drugs produced in Massachusetts.
Neglect by the Mass Pharmacy Board to investigate complaints about the lab responsible have contributed to the deaths of at least 30 people and the infection of hundreds more. The FDA knew about the sterility problems since 2002. This is foretaste of what to expect on a wide scale when more crooked profiteers protected by corrupt bureaucrats jump into the government health care game.
The “affordable healthcare” bill is a recipe for corruption. The Obama cronies are salivating at the $$ opportunities that Obamacare will unleash.
To: BlueStateRightist
RE: Obama, Pelosi and Reid have destroyed our future.
To: SeekAndFind
My cardiologist told me months ago that if the election didn’t go well, he is looking into moving to Australia.
He wasn’t joking.
To: formosa
Yes many said that they would close shop because of Obmama care. And you can bet that the field of doctoring is going to see a whole lot less colleges entry’s. Why go to school for all those years just to live on a Set government paycheck.
73
posted on
11/15/2012 9:32:48 AM PST
by
Revel
To: SeekAndFind
My cardiologist told me months ago that if the election didn’t go well, he is looking into moving to Australia.
He wasn’t joking.
To: jsanders2001
Actually there are plenty of vets making more than many doctors. Much lower regulatory costs, quicker receipt of payments with many fewer hassles.
75
posted on
11/15/2012 9:33:55 AM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Islam delenda est.)
To: SeekAndFind
No matter the cause, and no matter how much Obamacare did not address the cause - access to and quality of primary care physicians - I think the general problem is real.
Primary care physicians are not among the most well-rewarded doctors, and yet in the best of settings their role is every bit as important as medical specialists, if not more so in the immediate sense when an adverse health condition arises and medical help is needed.
One of the key roles of a good primary care physician is in initial diagnosis, and in that process recognizing when a medical speciality, or different medical specialities are best suited for either more extensive diagnosis or treatment; or not.
It is a difficuly role in which referral to a medical speciality can be recommended, or failed to be called upon too often (often). When abused - calling on various medical specialities more often than really needed - the process raises health care costs without improving outcomes, and when denied to an excess patients receive inadequate care and excessive times reaching a good resolution of an issue. The health care industry is plagued with both of those problems - too much and too little use of medical specialists - and we can only expect that it is the medical education institutions that fail to produce significant numbers of very good primary care doctors.
The solution does not require any federal program or federal dollars. It requires the medical education to make better use of the dollars they already obtain, particularly in the area of the education of primary care physicians. It would not hurt for those institutions to raise, among their students, the importance of the primary care doctor in making those patient assessments that most correctly and most efficiently employ the servicea of medical specialists.
76
posted on
11/15/2012 9:34:21 AM PST
by
Wuli
To: SoFloFreeper
RE: he is looking into moving to Australia.
1) My Brother trained in U Penn’s Children’s Hospital as a Pediatrician and Neonatologist.
2) He went to Australia years ago on a Fellowship program but had to pass THEIR qualifying exams.
He is now practicing there.
Your cardiologist might have to do the same.
To: jsanders2001
Think there will be new doctors entering the field if most of the profitability is taken out of it? The pay in their field will be reduced to that of a veterinarian in no time if Obamascare continues. Well Oblather will fix that easily. Just reduce the pay of the veterinarinans--duh.
78
posted on
11/15/2012 9:37:00 AM PST
by
subterfuge
(************ Believe Barry Obama's Propaganda At Your Own Peril **************)
To: SeekAndFind
The three docs in our family circle are closing their practices next year. The Medicaid crowd will have go to the White House for healing from Obama.
To: Puppage
It is neither affordable nor healthcare............
80
posted on
11/15/2012 9:38:28 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
To: SeekAndFind
Why not accept more applicants to Medical School? That will probably be the answer, tuition's subsidized by the tax payer no doubt.
Problem is, that will lead to many sub standard doctors.
JMO.
81
posted on
11/15/2012 9:39:48 AM PST
by
Las Vegas Ron
(Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
To: SeekAndFind
When the doctor shortage gets really bad - and it will - dems will solve the ‘problem’ by lowing standards for medical personalel...
“Job Training Programs’ those spread the wealth around boondoggles for inner city neighborhoods will now be the the perferred training centers for medical assistants. Your new ‘doctor’ will by the guy who couldn’t find a job because his rap sheet was too long...
82
posted on
11/15/2012 9:40:05 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(Petraeus confession: like something from a 'Soviet purge trial'....)
To: Tau Food
“The roles of nurse pracitioners and physicians assistants will expand to include treatment of most routine illnesses and injuries. “
That is, until they can no longer to pay malparactice. The system gamers will find this out in a NY minute.
83
posted on
11/15/2012 9:41:11 AM PST
by
freeangel
( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
To: SeekAndFind
When the doctor shortage gets really bad - and it will - dems will solve the ‘problem’ by lowing standards for medical personnel...
“Job Training Programs’ those 'spread the wealth around boondoggles' for inner city neighborhoods will now be the the preferred training centers for medical assistants. Your new ‘doctor’ will be the guy who couldn't find a job because his rap sheet was too long...
84
posted on
11/15/2012 9:41:16 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(Petraeus confession: like something from a 'Soviet purge trial'....)
To: SeekAndFind
Adding primary care doctors and physicians extenders (PAs, NPs)at the expense of specialists will drastically reduce quality. All the major advances in life expectency and QOL are via speciality care. PCPs, NPs and PAs can’t give chemo, put in hips or coronary stents.
This will get very ugly, guaranteed.
85
posted on
11/15/2012 9:41:59 AM PST
by
grumpygresh
(Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
To: southernindymom
Not sorry that sounds like Im racist, Im not, just tired of the crap.What's the point if you can't even understand what they're saying?
86
posted on
11/15/2012 9:42:57 AM PST
by
SCalGal
(Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
To: strongbow
This is the answer to the INTENDED consequence of doctor shortages.A sick, stupid, hungry population is easier to control...
87
posted on
11/15/2012 9:44:09 AM PST
by
SCalGal
(Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
To: COBOL2Java
Perhaps we will follow the British model and avert the shortage by replacing them with 26 year old middle eastern surgeons like the ones who bombed Glasgow International Airport in 2007 We can't be far off from incorporating "alternative" medicines...that's why the use of leeches and even maggots, has been in the news lately. A blood-letting, anyone?
88
posted on
11/15/2012 9:44:13 AM PST
by
Lou L
(Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
To: COBOL2Java
CRNA’s have a great job and make a very nice living.
Most people do not even know that CRNA’s do most of the anesthesia in this country (under the direction of an anesthesiologist).
89
posted on
11/15/2012 9:46:45 AM PST
by
Clarence
To: jsanders2001; Scoutmaster
Dems will solve the ‘problem’ by lowing standards for medical personnel...
“Job Training Programs’ those spread the wealth around boondoggles for inner city neighborhoods will now be the the preferred training centers for medical assistants. Your new ‘doctor’ will be the guy who couldn't find a job because his rap sheet was too long...
The next group to be thrown under the bus will be trial lawyers. Face it, poorly trained government workers will make 'mistakes' and if you or a loved one are one of those 'mistakes' the gov. can't afford allowing YOU to sue.. So the good news is no one will have to worry about malpractice insurance...
90
posted on
11/15/2012 9:48:24 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(Petraeus confession: like something from a 'Soviet purge trial'....)
To: SeekAndFind
To: Pining_4_TX
“Get ready for your doctor to be named Mohammed or Patel.”
This is happening now. I took someone to ER last year and was greeted by MDs from Cameroon, Senegal, India, and Ireland. All seemed competent and everything went well, but some of them had unpronounceable (by me) names and all had accents, so many things got repeated.
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posted on
11/15/2012 9:51:01 AM PST
by
DBrow
To: SeekAndFind
Not only do they want to put insurance companies out of business, but they also want to restrict the number of doctors so they can control who becomes a doctor. Then they will set it up so doctors get a salary just a bit higher than a subway-sweeper job.
Just like in the Soviet Union.
Look it up.
To: SeekAndFind
The big problem will be in Medicaid and Medicare. Both programs work by paying doctors directly for having treated someone. The problem is that reimbursements to doctors keep getting cut. At this point, when most doctors treat Medicaid patients, it is a charity case because they lose money. That’s why it is hard for Medicaid patients to even find a doctor who will treat them.
The result is that Medicaid patients get terrible medical care. The recent Univ VA study of surgical outcomes for Medicaid patients found that they were 97% more likely to die in surgery than privately insured patients. It also found they were 13% more likely to die in surgery than UNINSURED patients.
Most people don’t know this. But the Chief Medicare Actuary has projected the Medicare cuts that are in Obamacare. His estimates are that by 2019, Medicare doctors will be receiving LOWER reimbursements than Medicaid doctors. The inevitable result of this is the same, or worse, medical care for the elderly on Medicare than for the low-income on Medicaid. I have a friend on Medicare whose cardiologist has stopped treating him because of the Medicare cuts coming in Obamacare. He has been unable to find a replacement who is willing to treat him despite a six month search, despite an ongoing cardiology problem that is non-trivial.
To: nutmeg
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posted on
11/15/2012 9:55:31 AM PST
by
nutmeg
To: txrefugee
RE: The three docs in our family circle are closing their practices next year.
What on earth are they planning to do next?
Years of Medical training and then what?
To: Clarence
Don’t bank on a dental future. I’m a retired DDS who knows many grads with $200,000+ debt and no place to practice ‘decent’ dentistry. Many end up working in ‘dental mill’ clinics. I have personally steered many youth out of the Medical/Dental fields. Unless you have a strong humanitarian urge, stay away.
97
posted on
11/15/2012 9:56:30 AM PST
by
yadent
To: SeekAndFind
What could possibly go wrong...
Dramatically increase the number of patients who will abuse the system, since they’ll be getting “free” medical “care.”
Don’t increase the number of doctors...
Watch the number of existing doctors drop, as new price controls are placed on what the doctors are allowed to charge for their services, while the price of the procedures go up, due to new taxes on medical devices and instruments.
Yup, what can go wrong?
Of course, Obama recently admitted that he really can’t handle 7th grade math...
Mark
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posted on
11/15/2012 9:58:18 AM PST
by
MarkL
(Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
To: COBOL2Java
“The nomenklatura will always receive the best care from the best doctors and the best hospitals”
Maybe. But there will probably be a few doctors that cannot risk the temptation to make a ‘mistake’ on one of their political tormentors.
When Stalin had a stroke, the attending physician was afraid to lay a hand on him.
99
posted on
11/15/2012 10:01:57 AM PST
by
grumpygresh
(Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
To: Pining_4_TX
Yep. Texans might start feeling the other edge of the tort reform sword before long.
100
posted on
11/15/2012 10:05:30 AM PST
by
Trod Upon
(Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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