Skip to comments.Insiders Explain How Mitt Romney's Campaign Completely Fell Apart On Election Day
Posted on 11/12/2012 2:19:14 PM PST by GlockThe Vote
Worse still, Ekdahl told Business Insider that the Romney campaign failed to provide poll-watching volunteers in his region Jacksonville, Florida, a key Republican city in a major swing state with proper credentials and accurate voter strike lists, rendering them unable to perform their duties even if the ORCA app had worked.
In interviews with Business Insider last week, sources close to the Romney campaign confirmed Ekdahl's account, and described a technological undertaking that failed at every level. According to several of these sources, ORCA was developed by a small, isolated tech team working under Romney's political team. These sources told Business Insider that the product was never properly beta-tested, and wasn't revealed to the rest of the campaign including the digital team until the week of the election.
Most people on the campaign "weren't that surprised" by ORCA's failure, said one Republican communications strategist close to the Romney campaign.
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Romney got about 30% more votes than the tally shows, judging by the House voting counts.
This is where the election went. The machines were programmed to dump Romney and West votes.
Romney won Ohio, so don’t give us this second guessing. Fraud took his win and hid it.
Just inexcusable. Heads should roll. Fighting stupid is just not an option.
These reports kinda make you wonder how Romney ran his businesses. Seems with all his experience running companies, that this would be easy for him to manage and make sure it was successful. I feel sorry for the Romney’s though. They are good people.
Inside hatchet job by someone. Campaign infiltrated.
I agree with you and I think we saw early on that this was coming. He was conservative when it benefited him and moderate when it did not. There was no substance or depth. He wanted nothing to do with the Tea Party...did you ever hear him say Tea Party?...or Palin. He does not agree with them on alot of what they believe in. He tried being all things to all people but could not pull it off. Many I know did not vote for him as much as they voted against President Obama. That is never a good recipe for winning in politics.
Should have not dismissed the hoards of fans of Ron Paul either. I think they just stayed home. He also never went on conservative talk radio-a huge audience. Guess he was only going for the undecideds-if there is any such things.
I agree with you. It hurt him but he could not bring himself to even say her name..or Tea Party. I just asked another poster, did you ever hear him say Tea Party? He agreed with nothing they stand for. Or Palin. It did hurt him in the end.
Palin bailed because she was blackmailed, just as John Roberts and John Boehner are being blackmailed.
Palin didn’t have the fat bank account it would take to fight the crap stories that the blackmailers were ready to use.
Google Dan Centinello. (I’m on an IPad and can’t put the picture up.). That’s your ORCA mastermind. Enough said.
To this day, no one knows what Romney's politics are, and no one knows why he was obsessed with being president.
The man has been in politics since his teens and has spent the last 20 years and 55 million of his own dollars trying to get into the white house, and no one knows why, or even what his political reasons were, what his agenda is.
The man is ego driven, and has no center, no convictions, he is a salesman of Mitt, (not Mittism as in a political view, there isn't any such thing).
The election was lost in the coding of the voting machines, that dumped a percentage of Romney votes systemacically.
He won in votes, but lost by not protecting those votes after they were cast. This likely happened to McCain too.
What really irritates me is that Romney completely underestimated the Tea Party. He thought with their passion for their beliefs, who else were they going to vote for? He was the closest they were going to get. But he completely dismissed them and all they believe. So they never really got behind them. Who else were they going to vote for? It turned out many of them voted for no one. They knew he did not support them and would not follow through with any promises he made if elected. Again, no depth.
No it is not. And all the people on FR that said ‘politics over principle’ had better either ‘come to Jesus’ or just go away.
Many of us said you can’t serve two masters and were trashed for it. The result of Mitt laying both sides of the fence advanced liberalism by huge margins. The result of supposed conservatives fawning over him in the final weeks advanced liberalism by huge margins. It is one thing to vote for him over Obama as a last resort (though I disagree with the idea), but most of conservativedom went full moonbat painting him as something he never was. Just as the Greek column Obama was painted into something he never was.
If we cannot form a party and back people with conservative values, we deserve what we get. And if we do and lose anyway, then the country is well and truly done.
But unless we quit living in a Rovian fantasy that the GOP is the way truth and light and acting for ourselves, we ARE well and truly done. Personally as well as politically.
Look at Google, Apple, Yahoo, Microsoft, Oracle, etc., and you'd probably see that 95% of their employees' campaign contributions went to 0bambi. I hope I'm wrong.
I can vouch for this as well. I logged onto the website to make phone calls a couple of weeks before the end. First call, I got an answering machine and the script said don’t leave a message. The way the system worked, however, you can’t hang up, only the “callee” can hang up. So what was I supposed to do? I dunno. Considering that an answering machine is of course mostly what you get when you call people out of the blue these days, basically the system was useless. I emailed the campaign about, no response of course. Lame.
>> “I like John Kasich and Marco Rubio.” <<
Two establishment sell-outs.
They are the essence of our problems.
We need to get started NOW on the voter fraud and making sure the military overseas get their ballots in time. Not the week before the election.
I agree with your statement that many did not vote FOR Romney but AGAINST “The Divine One.” That is how I voted; plus the fact that my vote for Romney in California was largely a protest vote. I never thought Romney would carry California.
They are the essence of our problems.
Prominent Pro-life fiscal conservatives from swing states.
You've always been one bizarro dude.
>> “Then, once he was in charge of the campaign, he pretty much sat back and let Obama steal the election.” <<
Because there was, and still is, a huge groundswell against Obama. The whole country was in the tank for anyone that would get the dead shark smell out of the White House.
They didn’t realize how deep the corruption ran.
America is groaning from this election.
Don’t confuse Paul goof balls with Palin supporters, and Romney nor Obama were hurt by the Paul cult.
Paul people are from all over the spectrum not the GOP, that is how Paul can be so many different things at different times, even to running for president in different parties, and how he can keep raking in money although everyone knew that the lifetime politician would never escape his safe congressional district, he could never win a statewide Senate seat (even in Texas), or a Governor’s office like Palin, or be a vice-presidential candidate in a real party.
It is good that he is finally retiring, after a lifetime of this hustling and fund raising, and living the lifestyle.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!
Rubio has an immigration problem that needs to be dealt with.. Can we admit that pandering to illegals is not conservative? Sure he is on other issues. But that’s a biggie. He is GOP to the core.
We need to believe in something and someone who cares more for America than illegal voters.
I understood that right off the bat.
You’re blind to the massive evidence.
Kasich’s record in congress is full of RINOisms, and his total failure to take control in Ohio for the election speaks volumes.
You are the evident bizzaro here. You spout inane theories galore, and ignore the profound behavioral realities of American politics. You are a follower, not a thinker.
The TEA Party group seems to be able to organize massive numbers of people without some elaborate centralized system, susceptible to breakdown, DOS attacks etc like the ill-fated ORCA. In many ways the TEA Party operates like an underground cell; with decentralized control. That makes it hack proof and it gives it virtually autonomous control.
>> “Then it’s time for Americans to vote like the Iraqis, purple fingers and all” <<
It’s not how the people voted; it’s how the votes are counted.
“It matters not who does the voting, he who counts the votes choses who wins the election”
Going back decades, it was conventional wisdom that the GOP on the Hill certainly enjoyed being the opposition rather than the party in charge.
I believe Mitt wanted to win this election, but he make the mistake of thinking Obama’s terrible record was enough to turn out voters in his favor. Mitt and his staff were obviously clueless about the ground game.
>> “I still cant wrap my head around that other than my guess that Ron Paul and Palin voters voted for McCain while they stayed home in 2012.” <<
Your slip is showing.
That comment is as good as a confession that you were not a Palin supporter. That’s ok, but don’t cast your own weakness on Palin’s supporters. I’m confident that at least 99% of Palin and Paul’s supporters pulled the lever for Romney for similar reasons: they both were aghast at the loss of personal freedom and power under Obama.
In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Zero got a higher percentage than Saddam Hussein: 100%.
Yep, this country has been duped, they are all in cahoots, traitors!
Yep, same for me, the website was horrible. I sent numerous emails with suggestions, offered to help, hear nothing back...notta zippa.
I have read the entire thread. Romney lost in a perfect storm:
1. Flawed internal polls gave a false sense of security. There were rumors on this as early as the night before the election. Gingrich echoed this even up to Election Day. And he vanished in the aftermath.
2. Akin and the other nitwit who stuck their foots in their mouths on rape and abortion. Add to those gaffs the Romney sound bite stating that he would be happy to sign legislation banning abortion. And add in Limbaughs 2 day rant on Sandra Fluke(which was cheered on by the echo chamber) just turned off women. This was not the election for social issues. Just fiscal issues.
3. Romney’s lack of awareness about his wealth. The 10 grand bet with Perry and “My wife’s 2 Cadillacs” removed the ability to connect with the average non political hack voter.
4. Lack of a blueprint to right the nations fiscal ship of state. Sorry, he needed to channel the Ross Perot with the charts and data to tell the American people how he would positively affect their lives going forward. I know they did not want to give specifics because they would need to defend them, but I thought that is why he wanted Ryan on the ticket.
5. I live in a red part of Maryland and I did not receive one piece of mail or a call from the Romney campaign. Andy Harris knew my number, but not Mitt. And no GOTV call at all on Election Day. Granted the state was Obama’s, but you would want to run up the score in red districts.
6. His faith most liely suppressed the hard right evangenelical voter.
7. Palin and Paul voters sat this one out.
8. Obama knew his voters, and modeled the data nightly in 600 scenarios. That remineded me of the movie Wargames and the WOPR computer that did nothing but model WWIII. No indication that Romney had the data analyst team giving him unbiased truth.
Cry fraud all you want. I think Romney just got out played.
Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born; naturalized; and citizen-by-statute (derived citizenship from parents).
All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.
The following link will take you to the governments own Immigration Service web page describing the three types of citizenship.
Natural born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship. Natural born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of two citizen parents (jus sanguinas).
The definition of natural born Citizen appears in the holding of SCOTUSs unanimous decision of Minor v. Happersett (1874). Virginia Minor, a suffragette for women's rights, sued to be included as a candidate for U.S. President based on her eligibility under the 14th Amendment to the U.S.Constitution.
SCOTUS rejected her argument and examined her eligibility, concluding that she belonged to the class of citizens who, being born in the U.S. of citizen parents, was a natural born Citizen, and not covered by the 14th Amendment. This is important: the 14th Amendment has to to with native born citizenship NOT natural born citizenship.
This holding in Minor v. Happersett has been used in 25 consequent SCOTUS decisions since 1875.
No one has the RIGHT to be President. The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.
Just as an afterthought, beware some posters misstating the 14th Amendment arguments. Some here, and out in cyberspace, have purposefully lied about the Wong Kim Ark case.
For Romney to have 37000 ORCAns spread throughout the US is a crime against all sensibility.
They should have all been in Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Wisconsin, Colorado, Pennsylvania — just the battleground states where their services were going to be needed.
What was he thinking or was he???
Could it be Romney was set up to lose but be targeted for the money potential by the likes of rove and the others?
I listen to Bob Duko Show, what a great Christian, he was an Atheist, then became a Christian and knows how to dress down every Athiest argument. He is a very calm speaking person that makes great political points(Conservative).
Anyways, he had someone on that was talking about the campaign and this person was saying that the Dems have 130 offices in Ohio from the last campaign that never left. We need to get offices in Ohio, PA, every swing state. Get them opened and moving to prepare for 2016. I know I am dreaming....
Leave it the Class of ‘98 to nail it! The operation should be in place and available to our nominee. I covered three operations for my www.OurtownFLA.com : The “Organizing for America” that transitioned to “Obama for America” and the Koch Brothers “Americans For Prosperity” and then Romney HQ. Although the Romney HQ wasn’t so bad as to have greenbar paper to call off of but the callers had to call form a seat in their office. “Obama for America” and “Americans For Prosperity” both had software where you could go to a website and access the next person to call who would see your phone number on caller ID instead of Romney for President. They would tell me they had people calling from coffee shops. “Americans For Prosperity” couldn’t mention Romney’s name so they couldn’t be overly effective but I’m sure the Koch Bros would have sold the republican party the software if they were smart enough to ask. Great idea FZ
Every year someone says that ‘this wasn’t the election to...’ whatever.
Yes it was. They all were. Social/fiscal/whatever issues do not have better times. They are all important all the time.
And those who say they are fiscally con but socially mod/lib are indeed. But they are not ‘conservative’ when the chips are down. That’s easily demonstrated by their dem knack for categorization and (for lack of a better word) class warfare with their own supposed ‘party’. Eventually people have to stop lying to themselves and just be who and what their actions define them as. Whether they want to stay in their self-made political closet or not.
Again...If we cannot win on what we believe in then the country we love is no longer really ‘the country we love’. That’s just the hard reality and no amount of verbal gymnastics changes that.
All the more reason to NOT run opposed to the lib-tards unless you come to the dance armed with James Baker, or a James Baker protege as your escort. His “take no prisoners” approach is the only way these criminals can be dealt with!
I read that after the election there were lawyers and 4 jets ready to go contest the election all Romney had to do was give them the go ahead....instead he said shut it down, it’s over....
A man (or group) that refuses to fight, refuses to win. It’s that simple. And the GOP refuses to fight ALL THE TIME on the vast majority of the issues. Bohner/McConnel/Grahmm...cases in point. The defense rests.
I will disagree. If the social issues had not been raised, Romney would have had a shot of capturing enough women on fiscal concerns to have had a shot of winning. As it stands, there was no positive motion of women toward Romney than McCain...
That presupposes that women vote solely with their crotches.
If women did not vote for Romney, perhaps it’s a trust issue. In fact I would bet the farm on that. Sure the lib women DO vote vaginally. But conservative women do not. They value honesty. And the GOP/Romney as their records show beyond argument, is/are anything but.
So run more ‘election conservatives’ and get more women staying home? That’s not the answer. The answer is and always has been to give people something they WANT to vote for. The dems do that with liberal BS. It would work well for us.
Instead of trying to fear us into voting against the vorst ever gotta vote against him boogy man the dems are guarenteed throw up election after election.
You know - rush limbaughs words during the primary are comig back to haunt me when he said Romney was winning in areas Obama was going to win and that th cost of his wins were bad omen for later on.
I missed that one. Can you elaborate? I haZ a confused. Was he meaning that R’s methods would backfire in those areas oe something else?
Limbaugh and other said during the primaries that Rommney was spending crazy money but generating his votes from areas that were likely to go for Obama in the general at the expense of depressing the real conservative base votes in areas he would need later on.
A choice between family members and Republican political "experts" is seemingly a Hobson's Choice between "disaster" and "catastrophe".