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Bill Spadea Sees Mitt Winning One For The Gipper
Conservative HQ ^ | November, 1, 2012 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 11/01/2012 12:58:31 PM PDT by mick

Our friend Bill Spadea, a frequent guest on New York City area Fox affiliates, who knows politics as a candidate and as the Bush campaign’s national youth director, has an interesting take on what a Mitt Romney victory would mean.

Bill’s take is that a Mitt Romney administration will take up where Reagan left off, unlike the three other Republican administrations that have been elected since Reagan left office.

(Excerpt) Read more at conservativehq.com ...


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THE PULL QUOTE

"Beginning in January 2013, the Republican Party will be dominated by free market, liberty-minded, value-voter conservatives all responsible for the Romney election. In 1980, conservatives were energized with Reagan’s victory, but unfortunately with the selection of Bush as Vice President and the influence in the cabinet by the Neo-Cons, victory was short-lived."

"Unlike Reagan, Romney looked Right and selected a strong, leading conservative as his running mate: Paul Ryan, whose political identity was based on a budget that is essentially the antithesis of the Great Society. The die was cast immediately upon that decision."

1 posted on 11/01/2012 12:58:38 PM PDT by mick
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To: mick

All of us who vote for Romney will be winning one for the Gipper!


2 posted on 11/01/2012 1:01:28 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: mick

There’s a very very cautious optimism here on FR regarding Romney. We’ve seen him evolve into a pretty good candidate from when he started, and in fact I think he’s convinced most of the non-believers that he might carry the Reagan banner.

I for one don’t know. I have a brother who lived in UTah for many years who, thirty five years ago, told me the Mormon church was grooming Mitt Romney for the presidency. Yes, he said that 35 years ago. He feels strongly that Romney will post to the middle and be a very moderate presidency.

I listened to his speech today in Virginia. If he was not on a teleprompter, then I would say that he’s an authentic guy. He talked about things that only a true American could say. Things like when he was a boy scout leader, and about his sister etc.

It’s about time we get someone in office who comes from the private sector. Who truly, and I mean truly cleans house...from the USPS, to AMTRAK, to Medicare etc. The Federal govt should do nothing but protect our assets thru a strong military. The rest the states can do.


3 posted on 11/01/2012 1:05:49 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

I agree with you 100% !


4 posted on 11/01/2012 1:11:18 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: nikos1121
I have a brother who lived in UTah for many years who, thirty five years ago, told me the Mormon church was grooming Mitt Romney for the presidency. Yes, he said that 35 years ago.

Uh huh.

Because that's what Mormons do, along with the animal sacrifices and consumating marriages on altars in the temple.

Good grief... Put down the Kool-Aid jug and step away from the keyboard.

5 posted on 11/01/2012 1:11:47 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Slyfox

...an excellent piece. I have always maintained that Reagan’s biggest mistake was choosing Bush.

I sincerely hope he’s right about how a President Romney would govern.


6 posted on 11/01/2012 1:12:18 PM PDT by rashley (Rashley)
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To: mick
"Unlike Reagan, Romney looked Right and selected a strong, leading conservative as his running mate: Paul Ryan,

Do you understand the difference?

Romney is a lifelong liberal that was trying to win over the conservatives that he had always been at war with.

Reagan had the opposite problem.

7 posted on 11/01/2012 1:24:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: rashley
I have always maintained that Reagan’s biggest mistake was choosing Bush.

And yet even with Bush, Ronald Reagan was the best leader we could ever have hoped for at the time.

I hear people say that we need another Reagan. That is not possible, however all of us can take on the spirit of Ronald Reagan and continue what he started.

The libs hated Reagan. Can you imagine how p!$$ed they will be when they have to deal with millions of Reagans?

8 posted on 11/01/2012 1:25:32 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: TChris

Romney did first seek (and recieve) the approval of his Holy Prophet before running for president, and he has the backing of the Quorom of Seventy and the Prophet.

Mitt’s father was also a Bishop and Stake president as was Mitt, and a also presidential candidate.

No one knows exactly what decisions are made within the cult, but they have tied in millions of dollars to Mitt’s high profile as candidate and possibly president, and are adding about 8,000 recruiters.

Mitt is in the process of becoming a God, and that depends solely on the approval of his cult leadership, his current life and his destiny as a deity, is based on his relationship with, and service to, them.


9 posted on 11/01/2012 1:35:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: Slyfox
The libs hated Reagan.

Mitt Romney was one of those, Mitt left the republican party because of Reagan and the right wing, not returning to the GOP until October of 1993, after having become a democrat supporter and fund raiser, and voter.

10 posted on 11/01/2012 1:37:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: mick
Despite living in MA I have hopes too (though cautious). Mitt's speech on dropping out in '08 was the most conservative I had heard from him up to that point.

Increasingly I wonder if, up to that point, he was listening too well to his advisors, the pros, the sages (you know the ones), and cast caution to the wind in what should have been a farewell address.

Is it possible the real Mitt, the one that reflects old school values is coming to the fore? You gotta hope so...

11 posted on 11/01/2012 1:54:36 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: ansel12
Romney did first seek (and recieve) the approval of his Holy Prophet before running for president, and he has the backing of the Quorom of Seventy and the Prophet.

Backing? Since none of those involved have ever said such a thing, you must have been there in person, right?

Mitt’s father was also a Bishop and Stake president as was Mitt, and a also presidential candidate.

OK. True, but irrelevant.

No one knows exactly what decisions are made within the cult...

But you do! You just told us that they've been "grooming" Mitt for this for DECADES!

I'm in awe that you've personally penetrated this dark and mysterious group so we can be warned.

Mitt is in the process of becoming a God, and that depends solely on the approval of his cult leadership, his current life and his destiny as a deity, is based on his relationship with, and service to, them.

Yeah, and electing him president is only helping Mitt on his way to conquering this whole planet! Muahahahhaa!

Sheesh... You guys really need new material.

12 posted on 11/01/2012 2:05:35 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: rashley
How the Southern Border is treated will be the best indication.

(I'm more than happy be surprised, but am not at all counting on it.)

Sending Zer0 to HI is good enough at this point.

13 posted on 11/01/2012 2:13:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: TChris
Yeah, and electing him president is only helping Mitt on his way to conquering this whole planet! Muahahahhaa!

I never said anything about "they've been "grooming" Mitt for this for DECADES!", you need to check who you are posting to.

Cute that you are specific about "this planet", you know that Mitt is slated to become God of his own planet, another man who became God, already is our God on "this planet" according to Mormonism.

You nor none of us know the decisions made inside the secretive cult, we and regular Mormons aren't even allowed into the Temples, no one is allowed into the inner circle of leadership and prophecy.

Mitt's meeting with the Prophet in 2005 was kept private as well but we do know that Romney left with the approval of his prophet as Sunstone magazine reported in 2005, ""Right now, he faces the toughest decision of his life. It is not one he can put off for long. As if to underscore his personal angst, as he has done in the past, he sought advice from the man he admires most in this world: Mormon president Gordon Bitner Hinckley. The conversation eventually turned to whether a run for the presidency would be good for him and the Church. The specifics of the conversation are, of course, known only to people who were there.""

Sunstone also reported in 2005 that ""At that time, a senior LDS official close to the First Presidency said that some members of the Quorum were dismayed at Romney’s position on abortion even if they understood it was consistent with the doctrine of agency. They realized it would serve no purpose to quibble, the greater good was to get him elected, to give him a fair shot at realizing the victory his father booted forty years earlier.""

My material is fine, conservatives like having more information, especially about something as goofy as comparing the Reagan hating Romney, to Reagan, the man that Romney has spent five years trying to create a myth about of having been "adamantly pro-choice", in an effort to explain Mitt's being pro-abortion for his entire life.

14 posted on 11/01/2012 2:32:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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OK, now you're being a bit more transparent. It's all Sunstone silliness.

You nor none of us know the decisions made inside the secretive cult, we and regular Mormons aren't even allowed into the Temples...

Dude! Don't let that secret out. The millions of regular Mormons who are going into temples every day will be very confused. And the LDS leaders who encourage every member of the Church to prepare and attend the temple will too!

As a basic policy, new Mormon converts are encouraged to prepare to enter the temple after one year of membership. Yes, the regular ones. (I'm not sure what other kind of member there is besides regular. Premium?)

Oh, and I guess you didn't get the memo: The "secretive cult" meme isn't getting very far off the ground these days.

Like I said before, you -- and Sunstone -- need new material.

15 posted on 11/01/2012 2:45:23 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

That was reporting by the Mormon magazine Sunstone, of a meeting and statements from 2005 that you first denied, and now you seem to still be denying took place, you seem to be denying the entire article, which you have never read, and did not know existed.

You also seem to want to confuse people about the secret ceremonies of the temples, and there are not “millions” of non-temple Mormons “going into temples every day”.

Yes, a Temple recommend is “Premium” membership and is required for instance, to have witnessed Mitt and Ann’s secret marriage ceremony in the temple.

Temple membership requires being vetted every two years, and the ID being renewed every 12 months, and secrecy of what is said in the temples is imperative.

Without the temple recommend, one cannot become a God.

All in all, you seem rather frantic to do anything to keep away from the facts.

The holy Prophet approved of Bishop Mitt’s plan to run for the presidency in a private meeting in 2005, and “a senior LDS official close to the First Presidency” said that the Quorom of Seventy felt the “greater good” was to get Mitt into the White House.


16 posted on 11/01/2012 3:35:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: Riflema
Is it possible the real Mitt, the one that reflects old school values is coming to the fore?

Except that Mitt's political ideology goes back to the early 1960s, it is not something that he temporarily acquired in the 1990s while in Massachusetts.

Recently Mitt has rejected the pro-life party platform, and made it clear that he still supports homosexualizing the military and the Boy Scout leadership.

17 posted on 11/01/2012 3:45:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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That was reporting by the Mormon magazine Sunstone, of a meeting and statements from 2005 that you first denied, and now you seem to still be denying took place, you seem to be denying the entire article, which you have never read, and did not know existed.

Mormon magazine: No, a magazine written by Mormons. There's a difference. It's not a publication by the Church, but about the Church.

Meeting and statements from 2005: According to some unnamed person who claims to know Church authorities. I'm still denying it took place. That's what's known as "unsubstantiated rumor."

You also seem to want to confuse people about the secret ceremonies of the temples, and there are not “millions” of non-temple Mormons “going into temples every day”.

Not trying to confuse anyone about anything. You claimed that "regular Mormons" can't enter the temple. That's a lie.

There are millions of "regular Mormons" who go to the temple frequently. (better word?) There are over 130 temples in operation, worldwide. They are open for public tours prior to dedication. Most are very busy places. They are typically open for at least 12 hours a day, six days a week. Every member is encouraged to go, so it's not exactly an exclusive club inside the Church.

So I guess you win that one, millions of people couldn't all get inside a temple in the same day.

Yes, a Temple recommend is “Premium” membership and is required for instance, to have witnessed Mitt and Ann’s secret marriage ceremony in the temple.

Nope. Not at all. First, Mitt and Ann would have to invite you...

Regular Mormons who live up to some basic standards are qualified. They are interviewed every two years to check on that. If not, then that member can correct the problem and get qualified again. Maybe you consider someone who lives their religion to be a "premium" member. I couldn't say.

...secrecy of what is said in the temples is imperative.

Wrong word. The word is "sacredness". Most people can grasp the difference. What goes on in the Holy Temple is sacred to Mormons. Because it is sacred, it's not open to the public. If you're confused, read the definitions of the two words SECRET and SACRED.

Without the temple recommend, one cannot become a God.

Well, that and a lot more.

All in all, you seem rather frantic to do anything to keep away from the facts.

Really? I guess the reader(s) will have to judge that. I don't feel frantic.

All you do is what every other anti-Mormon does. You use either spooky or mocking words to post half-truths, out of context quotes or purely made-up fantasy about them.

They are so secretive that their official scriptures and teaching curriculum are openly available online!

Hmm. Not a very good way to keep their beliefs secret.

18 posted on 11/01/2012 4:37:20 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

To be Holy enough to earn a Temple ID, one MUST give 10% of their earnings to the cult or they cannot become Gods.

You seem to be denying that a Temple recommend even exists, that the temples are mere Mormon churches, open to all Mormons and even non-Mormons, and that they have no special membership required, nor secrets to keep.

Temple activities are secret, and you know that all Temple mormons are instructed to not reveal the details of what takes place inside, even Ann Romney’s own parents were forbidden to witness their daughter’s Temple ceremony, unless you are claiming that they stayed outside because they rejected their daughter’s “invitation”.

The Prophet speaking of temple secrecy-—”May I speak also of a matter pertinent to temples? I remind you of the absolute obligation to not discuss outside the temple that which occurs within the temple. Sacred matters deserve sacred consideration. We are under obligation, binding and serious, to not use temple language or speak of temple matters outside.”
“Please, brethren, do not discuss outside of the temple that which occurs in the temple. While there, you are at liberty to do so. If you have questions, you may speak with the temple president or one of his counselors. But when you leave the doors of the House of the Lord, be true to a sacred trust to speak not of that which is holy and sanctified.”

Even Mormon writers are writing on how a President Romney can find enough Temple qualified Mormon Secret Service, to escort him into secret events.

You are just making up stuff which is a Mormon (and cult) technique, and I notice that you ignore the most shocking of all, Temple Mormons becoming Gods.

Mitt Romney is in the process of becoming a God in your religion.


19 posted on 11/01/2012 5:08:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: ansel12
Truly, ansel, you have become the town crank of Free Republic.

Dead wrong about just about everything. But charming in your own way. And not considered dangerous...

20 posted on 11/01/2012 5:15:49 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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