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Why did Obama choose to “stand down” in Benghazi? (Best explanation of motive I've read.)
PowerLine ^ | October 27, 2012 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 10/28/2012 8:11:58 AM PDT by StandAndDeliver1

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To: grobdriver
The unavoidable conclusion is that Obama is a pussy and a coward, and unfit to hold office as Command in Chief.

He voted 'Present' and went to bed.

41 posted on 10/28/2012 8:53:14 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: StandAndDeliver1
Faced with uncertainty, Obama apparently opted for caution, hoping that somehow the CIA contingent from Tripoli, aided perhaps by Libyan forces, would save the situation.

This doesn't make sense. The CIA congingent from Tripoli was ordered to stand down. They launched that rescue mission against orders.

42 posted on 10/28/2012 8:53:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Narcissists are very poor decision makers. Their management style falls into the category of “Influencers”, The professions in this group are Politicians, Lawyers, Promoters etc.. they get their ego satisfaction from controlling other people. You can spot them, they dress well, well groomed, personable, the are poor delegaters, and tend to micro manage. Oh yeah, they lie like rugs.
43 posted on 10/28/2012 8:54:25 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: All

Another thing to consider. obama has said repeatedly he would not put “boots on the ground” in Libya. He, and his evil friends and followers, were thinking about “military” casualties and how it would be used against him by the republicans. At the very least he sacrificed Americans to get elected. He, all of his administration and many in the left wing media should be tried for treason.


44 posted on 10/28/2012 8:59:09 AM PDT by Terry Mross (To former friends and relatives. Don't ever contact me if you still support obama.)
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To: StandAndDeliver1
"But let’s keep in mind that our inability to assess this is due mainly to the administration’s unwillingness to speak about the decision and the surrounding events."

How about he lied to American people for two weeks and had an American jailed - scapegoated - supposedly for the amateur video that - supposedly, again - agitated the whole Muslim world to rioting.

The guy arrested is still in jail - and is, reportedly, scheduled to be released three days after the election. Again, supposedly he was arrested for parole violation.

I didn't know parole violations involved arrest in the middle of the night and warranted 3 months or so of immediate jail time.

Especially, when it is known that the video was not the reason things went south in Egypt, Libya and then - other countries in Middle East (once they were made aware by this administration of the videotape. In other words they became agitated after they were told about something they didn't even know about in the first place.

45 posted on 10/28/2012 8:59:59 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: blueunicorn6

The worst part is that everyone, even the Democrats, knew the Iran Contra operation was a good idea. It was to free American hostages and get rid of the communists in our backyard in Nicaragua. THE DEMOCRATS USED IRAN CONTRA AS A POLITICAL WEAPON TO ATTACK THE REPUBLICANS. As an American, I demand 40 days of televised Senate hearings into this scandal! Why did Obama and Hillary mess around with the governments in Libya and Egypt? There were no hostages. They weren’t in our backyard like Nicaragua. Obama and Hillary are just a couple of Democrat Grifters out to enrich themselves and get money for Democrat campaigns. Can you imagine what the liberals in the press are going through right now? This is way worse than Watergate. This is way worse than Iran Contra. And it’s their team that’s done it. For the liberal media, this must be the equivalent of catching your wife cheating....with the dog. They must be in absolute shock. They are finally coming to the realization that they’ve been played for years by the thieves in the Democrat party. Welcome to the real world, boys and girls! Your Democrats are a bunch of Thieves, Thugs, Thralls and Thickheads.


46 posted on 10/28/2012 9:01:08 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: StandAndDeliver1

While too kind to Obama (IMHO) this is a great article to share with undecided voters or your Facebook libtard friends.

They have to be eased into the reality of whats going on, you can’t hit them with cries of “Obama is a TRAITOR” right off because it will only turn them off and they’ll stop listening.


47 posted on 10/28/2012 9:02:40 AM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: StandAndDeliver1

Last night on Justice with Judge Jeanine on Fox News she had military guests on there and I think I heard one of them say something about a “request” to send support would be presented to the president and then he would “sign” it to make it happen. Did he simple IGNORE the request? I believe this is the question that needs to be asked....Mr. President, were “you presented” with a request for support during the terrorist attack in Benghazi??? Mr. President, did you dither???


48 posted on 10/28/2012 9:02:57 AM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: StandAndDeliver1

” In hindsight, Obama made the wrong decision. The extent to which he should be criticized for the decision is difficult to assess because we don’t know all of the information he had at the time the decision had to be made. Perhaps the decision was a reasonable one to make at that time. But let’s keep in mind that our inability to assess this is due mainly to the administration’s unwillingness to speak about the decision and the surrounding events.”

From a military perspective this paragraph is completely wrong. The failure to make a timely decision - even one that eventually proves to be in error - is more dangerous than the consequenses of that decision. War is about aggression and the more aggressive you can be the more “the Fog of War” becomes your ally. Sit there like a deer-in-the-headlights and you are nothing but a sitting target for even the dumbest or weakest opponent.

This is why the military often seeks to brief the president and involve e them in exercises. Gets them used to the most critical aspect of leadership - the willingness to make rapid decisions with only a few verifiable facts.


49 posted on 10/28/2012 9:03:45 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: StandAndDeliver1

He didn’t want to leave any witnesses alive.

That is the reason.

Occam’s razor.


50 posted on 10/28/2012 9:04:10 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: StandAndDeliver1
I said it on another thread: The difference between Soldiers and politicians is that soldiers run toward the gunfire.
51 posted on 10/28/2012 9:04:41 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: StandAndDeliver1
Faced with uncertainty, Obama apparently opted for caution, hoping that somehow the CIA contingent from Tripoli, aided perhaps by Libyan forces, would save the situation.

So if this is true, wouldn't it be wise to err on the side of caution and have the rescue ready to go? Or, better still, when the consulate was requesting additional security , give it to them. If it turns out it wasn't needed fine, but if it was needed it would be there. The next point, why the song and dance about the youtube video? Why the apology film given to the afghans? Why is some guy still sitting in jail for "insulting the prophet of islam"?

Sorry, too many questions remain not only unanswered but unasked by the media. We all know that if this had happened on Bush's watch in '08 it would have been a huge campaign issue.

52 posted on 10/28/2012 9:04:52 AM PDT by YankeeReb (The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” B.H. 0bama)
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To: StandAndDeliver1
“the basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on, without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”

More BS. If not, then why was the Ambassador still there? The British and the Canadians were smart enough to pull out there people when confronted with intelligence stating a threat.

The call was placed. No one answered.

He left them to die.

53 posted on 10/28/2012 9:05:58 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: neveralib
“The authors is evenhanded, and goes step by step to the unavoidable conclusion that, at the least, we now have enough info to “present a serious indictment of Obama”.
BULLSHIT!!
The authors are giving him a pass or at least the “benefit” of the doubt, which based upon the info available, I am not willing to do so.”

My thought exactly! This is BS.

54 posted on 10/28/2012 9:06:31 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: StandAndDeliver1
Who decided that American defense forces an hour or two away in Southern Europe would not be deployed?

I don't remember where I heard it, but not long after the attack I heard that there were 65 Marines on a US naval vessel just off the Libyan coast who could have been flown into Benghazi (sp?) by helicopters in time to save the men in our embassy. 65 US Marine fighting men vs a gang of poorly trained muzzies would have been similar to a turkey shoot with live turkeys.

Obama should be impeached for his actions, no, make that his INaction, during that span of time when those 4 far better men than him could very likely have been rescued. IMHO mere impeachment would be too little punishment for him in this situation, conviction and possibly even imprisonment would be more appropriate.

I know that would never ever happen, but I can dream can't I? Lord, how I despise that excuse for a man!

55 posted on 10/28/2012 9:07:25 AM PDT by epow
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To: StandAndDeliver1
Why did Obama need this Ambassador dead? I think that is the question.
56 posted on 10/28/2012 9:07:25 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: oldbrowser
I believe that the action was vetoed based on political/election consequences, undoubtedly by Valerie Jarrett.

As a side question, does anyone know why Valerie Jarrett is entitled to secret service protection?

57 posted on 10/28/2012 9:07:47 AM PDT by YankeeReb (The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” B.H. 0bama)
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To: oldbrowser
I believe that the action was vetoed based on political/election consequences, undoubtedly by Valerie Jarrett.

As a side question, does anyone know why Valerie Jarrett is entitled to secret service protection?

58 posted on 10/28/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by YankeeReb (The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” B.H. 0bama)
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To: yadent

Exactly- what was Pakistans reaction to our Seals going in and getting Bin Ladin without notifying them first? Did we care? No- we just did it. However, there was major hand wringing over what the Lybian government would think, do, etc. Most Powerful military in the world, with state of the art technology yet Panetta says we couldn’t be sure what was going in. Really?


59 posted on 10/28/2012 9:09:31 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: StandAndDeliver1

Recall what Clinton said of Obama on the decision to kill OBL

....Look, he knew what would happen. Suppose the Navy SEALs had gone in there and it hadn’t been bin Laden. Suppose they had been captured or killed, the downside would have been horrible for him.

Horrible for Obama, so close to an election!!!

Are you kidding me!!!


60 posted on 10/28/2012 9:10:25 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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