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Panetta Says We Lacked Real-Time Benghazi Intel
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | October 27, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 10/27/2012 7:29:20 AM PDT by raptor22

Edited on 10/27/2012 8:13:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Despite real-time video, emails to the White House and desperate cries for help, our defense secretary says we didn't send rescue forces to our Benghazi consulate because we didn't know what was going on.

In a statement bordering on the Kafkaesque, Leon Panetta told a news conference Thursday that four Americans, including our Libyan ambassador Chris Stevens, were left to die without a rescue attempt by nearby U.S. military forces because there's "a basic principle here, and the basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on, without having some real-time information about what's taking place."

That would seem to sum up the Obama administration's assessment of and story line about the Middle East — it has no real-time clue about what's going on. Osama bin Laden is dead, but Islamofascism is very much alive, and to send an ambassador and his diplomatic mission into harm's way without so much as a Marine security detachment with bayonets is unconscionable.

Excuse us, Mr. Secretary, but your administration had a drone over the consulate on Sept. 11...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazigate; cia; consulate; glendoherty; ibd; ibdbenghazi; islamist; islamofascismjihad; leonpanetta; libya; navyseals; panetta; shadowwars; terrorism; terrorists; tyronewoods; waronterror
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To: Travis McGee
As always, thanks for your input, shipmate. As a former gator aviation sailor, I can attest to the routine training the Marines conducted for crisis evacuation. I know because I was on the flight deck around the clock to get them on and off the ship. That was many years ago and maybe things have changed but I doubt it.

"But what we really need now is for a high-ranking officer with insider knowledge to go public, risk his pension and career, and tell the truth."

Exactly the point of a vanity article I posted and pinged you to.

21 posted on 10/27/2012 7:50:17 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What pisses me off about all of this is someone like Putin would have had a Spetznatz team on the ground, there would have been air strikes, the entire village surrounding the compound would have been leveled, the leader of the attack captured, his head chopped off after being tortured to tell who set this up and then that person and his entire staff wiped out. And maybe they got the Ambassador and his staff out of there.

If it was George Bush, a SEAL team would have gone in, rescued the Ambassador and his team, after Spooky finished up, there would have been a bunch of dead terrorists with minimal collateral damage and the only way anyone would have known this took place would be because 2 days later, CNN would be reporting that an American assassination squad was sent to Benghazi to murder innocent civilians having a wedding and firing off weapons in celebration.

Then there would have been a call for Bush and Rumsfeld to resign and the NY Times would run stories above the fold for the next 3 weeks stating why Condi and the CIA didn’t stop the SEAL team from murdering civilians.

22 posted on 10/27/2012 7:50:54 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Media goes nuts in 2004 because Bush went to the dentist 20 years ago. Benghazi? Nothing.)
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To: raptor22; xzins

So what Panetta is basically saying is that you don’t send in the rescue squad until after you are absolutely, positively sure everyone that needs to be rescued is sufficiently dead.

You don’t want any live witnesses.

23 posted on 10/27/2012 7:51:20 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: raptor22

24 posted on 10/27/2012 7:52:07 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: raptor22

just remember his pal Valerie J. had great security

25 posted on 10/27/2012 7:53:17 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Da Coyote

Poin-cettia is a slimy little little Obama with the IQ of a slime mold.

He also has a history of commie friends. Kinda like someone else we all wish we didn’t know.

26 posted on 10/27/2012 7:53:32 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: jch10

That was a great call.

It was also noted that standing orders (enshrined in law) require the chain of command be physically contact. Obama’s comment: “I wasn’t aware of requests” ...that just doesn’t fly, you can’t say the ringer volume was turned down on your I-Pad. /sarc.

27 posted on 10/27/2012 7:54:28 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: raptor22

What an absolute liar.
NEVER have Americans been so ashamed of their “Leaders”.

28 posted on 10/27/2012 7:54:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: barryobi
"Another (very very trusted) source is saying that the AC130 Marine resources were in the middle of a rotation and that the new Marine resources weren’t ready yet so no help would come from Sigonella. So that confirms Panetta’s statement"

Middle of a rotation on 9/11? Really? So the defense here is that "we weren't cowards just hopelessly incompetent" and that's supposed to satisfy everyone? I don't buy it.

29 posted on 10/27/2012 7:54:36 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Travis McGee

Travis —

Thank you for your service, patriotism, and knowledge. If you ever get to Oklahoma (the state in which Obama did not carry a single county in 2008) please let me know and I will see that you are greeted, and treated with the respect you deserve. Again, thank you for your service.

I’m the Uncle that “tabbed” an Army Ranger. He has always, despite the rivalry between services, maintained that SEAL training is far in excess than that of a Ranger.

I do have a question for you, if you will indulge me. I have for years read/heard that one of the major differences between the US military and the Red Army was the ability of American commanders to adapt to situations without direct superior order. True? Could that be why, if correct, that General Ham was relieved? Perhaps that is why the two hero SEALs (yes, they remain SEALs after leaving the services) took heroic action? I was assured by my Nephew when I “tabbed” him, that military leaders would not countenance a fool in the White House. Do you agree?

I’m sorry, I asked more than one question.

Again, if you come to Oklahoma, you will be honored.


30 posted on 10/27/2012 7:56:03 AM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: TigerClaws

If the predator was armed (they might not have armed because if it was just being used for surveillance, it would be able to stay in the air longer without a couple heavy hellfire missiles on board). IF the predator was armed, I am not positive they can be guided by laser from the ground, but that is irrelevant because predators have infra red cameras. The laser sighting from Tyrone Woods would have at least given the operator of the drone the co-ordinates of the mortar team and he could have taken them out with the click of a mouse.

31 posted on 10/27/2012 7:56:34 AM PDT by barryobi
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you, Travis for explaining the “why didn’t we go?” so exquisitely. That is the bottom line. Right now, and ultimately, all that matters is that he didn’t send help. That’s what needs to be broadcast to every American. He could have sent help but did nothing. Somehow this needs to break through the media embargo before Nov. 6.

32 posted on 10/27/2012 7:57:01 AM PDT by Bubbette
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To: blueunicorn6

‘Maybe we should buy some Cessnas for the really tough missions.’

If this situation were not so damn tragic that would have been funny.

33 posted on 10/27/2012 7:58:10 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: raptor22

In my opinion, Bam Bam and Panetta are self-serving, lying scum responsible for the murders of four American heroes.

34 posted on 10/27/2012 7:58:52 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: raptor22
Photobucket I call it....
35 posted on 10/27/2012 8:00:19 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Delta Dawn


These people are pathetic.

36 posted on 10/27/2012 8:00:57 AM PDT by SleeperCatcher
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To: barryobi

Thanks. The mortar fire is what killed them.

37 posted on 10/27/2012 8:06:30 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: raptor22

I agree with them on one point. They lacked intelligence. And still do.

38 posted on 10/27/2012 8:09:22 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

People sneer at the name of Richard Nixon, but can anyone here imagine him abandoning a US ambassador to savages? Even Jimmy Carter sent an (admittedly too small) rescue mission in a similar situation. When you make Jimmy Carter look like John Wayne, you’re doin’ it wrong, Barack!

39 posted on 10/27/2012 8:13:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You called it correctly.

The media is the true enemy of the state.

40 posted on 10/27/2012 8:15:27 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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