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Wikipedia changes definition of "shuckin' and jivin'" today (10/25) after Palin use
Vanity | 10/25/2012 | Anonymous

Posted on 10/25/2012 11:09:24 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne

Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin released a statement on her Facebook page accusing President Obama of engaging in "shuck and jive shtick" regarding last month's attack in Benghazi, Libya.

She was immediately attacked as a racist by Mike Krumboltz of The Ticket:

"For those who aren't familiar with the phrase, "shuck and jive" is a racially-tinged expression.

This morning, I looked up "shuck and jive" on Wikipedia and saw this:

"Shuckin' and jivin' (or shucking and jiving) is an American slang term for the behavior of joking and acting facetiously."

This afternoon, I went back to Wikipedia and saw this:

"Shuckin' and jivin' (or shucking and jiving) is an African American slang term for the behavior of joking and acting facetiously."

Some anonymous Progressive went on Wikipedia and inserted the word "African" into the definition in order to dishonestly support the idea that Sarah Palin's use of the term is inherently racist after the fact.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: sarahpalin
This is a clear example of the duplicitousness of the treasonous Left.
1 posted on 10/25/2012 11:09:25 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: Dr. Thorne

The Urban Dictionary and Yahoo had the definition of “Shuck and Jive” altered to have racial connotations within a few minutes or even maybe a few seconds after Sarah’s tweet using the term.

These people are relentless.


2 posted on 10/25/2012 11:16:20 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Dr. Thorne

If you are of a certain age, you will appreciate this.....

3 posted on 10/25/2012 11:17:33 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Proud to be able to LEGALLY Vote TWICE for Paul Ryan)
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To: Uncle Slayton

So the Bee Gees had a big hit with the song “Jive Talkin”. Are the Bee Gees racists?


4 posted on 10/25/2012 11:20:06 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

BAT BABE, SLIDE A PEICE A DA PORTA, DRINK SIDE RUN THE JAVA.

LOOKEE HEYA, I COUD DIG ON CHOMPIN ON SUM BUTTA GREENS FROM DA GADEN.


5 posted on 10/25/2012 11:21:03 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: Dr. Thorne
Some anonymous Progressive went on Wikipedia and inserted the word "African" into the definition in order to dishonestly support the idea that Sarah Palin's use of the term is inherently racist after the fact.

You can anonymously change it back, you know.

6 posted on 10/25/2012 11:23:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Elyse

You’re a racist for even asking.

:-P


7 posted on 10/25/2012 11:24:02 AM PDT by Salamander (I think I need some rest but sleeping don't come very easy...in a straight white vest.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
This is why I don't like Wikipedia or any other form of malleable electronic reference material (including votes) because of this 1984’ish ability to be changed for propaganda reasons. Give me a hard copy Dictionary or Encyclopedia that people can't come into my house and change.
8 posted on 10/25/2012 11:24:19 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Dr. Thorne
It has changed again. The current entry is:

Shuckin' and jivin' (or shucking and jiving) is an southern American slang term for the behavior of joking and acting facetiously.

It seems someone replaced 'African' with 'southern' but neglected to change 'an' to 'a'.

I have since corrected the syntactical error.

9 posted on 10/25/2012 11:24:38 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: Uncle Slayton

After Obama loses to Romney, the left will go apepoop with ‘racism’ to the level that will finally cause people to give them a big and public “FU”.

Most of the country has already had it.

I WANT them to go full tilt with the Orewllian BS. It will bring their demise all the faster.


10 posted on 10/25/2012 11:25:29 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Salamander

I’m such a bad girl.


11 posted on 10/25/2012 11:25:58 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Elyse

Grease - Born to Hand Jive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krSe4Y6Zro0


12 posted on 10/25/2012 11:29:42 AM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Mygirlsmom
"If you are of a certain age, you will appreciate this....."

And don't call me Shirley...

13 posted on 10/25/2012 11:29:52 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Let’s ask Chrissy Matthews:

http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/chris-matthews-who-used-the-phrase-shuck-and-jive-now-calls-sarah-palin-racist-for-saying-shuck-and-jive/

And we should boycott these people, too.

http://dallas.shucknjive.com/

http://www.shucknjivemandeville.com/home.html

[there is nothing worse than racist seafood!]


14 posted on 10/25/2012 11:30:01 AM PDT by Salamander (I think I need some rest but sleeping don't come very easy...in a straight white vest.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Wikipedia “History” is your friend! Examining the “History” reveals a flurry of updates on October 25 beginning with the insertion of claims of “slavery” and racial overtones.

Going back further, the use of “shuck and jive” by Jay Carney had been deleted on Sept 2011.

“White House press secretary [[Jay Carney]] on September 7, 2011 forgot his briefing book and told the assembled media that he would, “shuck and jive.” [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/07/carney_im_going_to_shuck_and_jive.html]";

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shuckin%27_and_jivin%27&diff=450297823&oldid=448998737

This information should inoculate Palin from reproach!


15 posted on 10/25/2012 11:30:06 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Dr. Thorne

I anticipated this, and posted the unchanged version yesterday:

Shuckin’ and jivin’ (or shucking and jiving) is an American slang term for the behavior of joking and acting facetiously. The term can also refer to the speech and behavioral mechanisms adopted in the presence of an authoritative figure.[1] Shuckin’ and jivin’ usually involves clever lies and impromptu storytelling, used to one-up an opponent or avoid punishment.[2] Such behavior is believed to have originated in the era of slavery.[2]

Shuckin’ and Jivin’: Folklore from Contemporary Black Americans (ISBN 0-253-20265-5) is the name of a book written by Daryl Cumber Dance in 1981. In 1972, the Johnny Lewis Quartet record a soul jazz LP called Shuckin’ ‘N Jivin’ .[3]

The term is also used in the Southern United States referring to deceit or mischief involving lies.[citation needed]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2949519/posts?page=29#29


16 posted on 10/25/2012 11:31:00 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Elyse

Yes, you are and when Romney is president, you’re going to get a sound spanking.

[right before we’re all sold into slavery]

:)


17 posted on 10/25/2012 11:31:59 AM PDT by Salamander (I think I need some rest but sleeping don't come very easy...in a straight white vest.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
The Wikipedia page for Shuckin' and Jivin' has been changed 21 times today (at the time of this post) - it started today as an "American term" - was switched to a "Southern American term," then an "African American term." Language about how the term referred to the manner in which slaves acted to avoid doing work was added and removed. I could go on.

Before today's flurry, the page was last changed in February and, before that, December 2011.

18 posted on 10/25/2012 11:32:52 AM PDT by Scoutmaster
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To: Dr. Thorne

This is all I could find on Conservapedia for ‘jive’

Urban English (also referred to as Urban Vernacular English, or Jive) is a variant or dialect of English spoken by historically segregated minorities in urban communities (or cities) across the United States, predominantly African-Americans. Urban English has its roots in the Creole tongue which was spoken in the South among slaves, and hence some of the differences between it and standard English can be attributed to the adaptation of native African phonological processes and syntax to an English lexicon.


19 posted on 10/25/2012 11:33:23 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The hillbillies say it all the time and we don’t even *have* black people here.

I have no idea where/when/how the phrase originated.


20 posted on 10/25/2012 11:33:34 AM PDT by Salamander (I think I need some rest but sleeping don't come very easy...in a straight white vest.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Will you ever get over Macho Grande?


21 posted on 10/25/2012 11:34:36 AM PDT by Salamander (I think I need some rest but sleeping don't come very easy...in a straight white vest.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Somebody needs to tell Art Garfunkel he's a racist.....he has a song titled, “Mr. Shuck and Jive”.
22 posted on 10/25/2012 11:35:17 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Dr. Thorne

The miracle of the internet has allowed us to witness each stroke of the soviet airbrush in realtime.


23 posted on 10/25/2012 11:38:46 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Mygirlsmom

“I came in from Memphis, where I learned to talk the jive.” I guess the Grateful Dead are racist too, as well as Eric Clapton with “Willie and.the Hand Jive.” Oh, and how could I forget Skynyrd with “You’re talkin jive, woman when you say to me.” Where does all of this PC nonsense stop?


24 posted on 10/25/2012 11:39:00 AM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: Mygirlsmom
"If you are of a certain age, you will appreciate this..... "

I picked a helluva week to stop sniffing glue.

25 posted on 10/25/2012 11:43:20 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: Freestate316

Art Garfunkle, “Mr. Shuck n Jive”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDc9gKt9Ly4

As an aside, imagine how much power Governor Palin would have if she was relevant...


26 posted on 10/25/2012 11:44:28 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Shuckin' and jivin' (or shucking and jiving) is a southern American slang term, that gets the people at Freerepublic's panties in a wad, for the behavior of joking and acting facetiously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuckin'_and_jivin'
27 posted on 10/25/2012 11:52:13 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking!


28 posted on 10/25/2012 11:58:19 AM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: Work for a successful 2012! +Throw the liberal garbage out!)
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The thing to do in a situation like this is to make an objective comment on the talk page documenting what changes were made and the context of the change (ie the recent Palin comment) so that there is a permanent indication of what liberal editors have done on the page.

Comments on talk pages tend to remain there forever, although they may be archived on active pages. Its good for people to stumble upon evidence like this sometime in the future.


29 posted on 10/25/2012 12:07:53 PM PDT by ChronicMA
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Dr. Thorne
You can anonymously change it back, you know.

HA! Yes you can! I did this back in 2003-2004 when some idiots on Wiki wanted to change the colors of ALL electoral maps when the progs thought it would be funny as painting Republicans as the color red.
30 posted on 10/25/2012 12:24:02 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: Elyse

Yes. A very bad girl. And now, you must be spanked.


31 posted on 10/25/2012 12:33:59 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Dr. Thorne

barry and the hand jive...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeeGMpM_Nk&playnext=1&list=PLB09390C2AA69EA5F&feature=results_main


32 posted on 10/25/2012 12:36:43 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes you can amend it but if they detect controversy they check your, er, progressive credentials and you’ll soon find yourself locked out.

Been there, done that


33 posted on 10/25/2012 12:42:45 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Shouldn’t even be an issue....and as bad of the 50-60s may have been, it was changing. It took the civil rights movement to mess things up (pre CRM two parent families, literacy, percentage of college graduations were all on the rise).

“We went into slavery a piece of property; we came out American citizens. We went into slavery pagans; we came out Christians. We went into slavery without a language; we came out speaking the proud Anglo-Saxon tongue. We went into slavery with slave chains clanking about our wrists; we came out with the American ballot in our hands.

Progress, progress is the law of nature; under God it shall be our eternal guiding star.”

~~ Booker T. Washington


34 posted on 10/25/2012 12:44:08 PM PDT by petro45acp (The question isn't "are you better off?" it should be "is it really the government's job?")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
We should change to read: " Shuckin' and jivin' (or shucking and jiving) is a southern American slang term for the behavior of joking and acting facetiously. Talking "jive" was made popular in the pop lexicintently the 1980s Bee Gees hit "Jive Talking" and was firmly planted in the hit movie Airplane when Barbara Billingsly declared, "excuse me stewardess, I speak jive." However, the term is widly viewed as a racial epithet when uttered by a conservative."
35 posted on 10/25/2012 12:58:31 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!r)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Wiki screen capture - Shuckin' and jivin' (or shucking and jiving) is a southern American slang term, that gets the people at Freerepublic's panties in a wad, for the behavior of joking and acting facetiously. Photobucket
36 posted on 10/25/2012 1:15:38 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Salamander
I have no idea where/when/how the phrase originated.

For years people have "shucked" corn, removing the papery husk and silk from the ears. Peas are also "shucked" from their pods. These labor intensive tasks were often accomplished by several people working together, sitting on the back porch around a washtub full of vegetables that were to be shucked of their inedible portions. Many hands made the work go quickly and gossip among the workers relieved the boredom.

I believe "jive" started as a reference to early jazz music which extended to include dance done to "jive" music. Ultimately "jive" included the people dancing to the jive music, interpreted as silly or uninhibited. The gossip then could be jive or silly talk.

Regards,
GtG

PS People used to "shuck" their clothes before skinny dipping at the 'ol swimmin' hole. Archaic English?

37 posted on 10/25/2012 1:40:59 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Java4Jay
They changed it again.


38 posted on 10/25/2012 1:43:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Pravda Press has gone from 'biased' straight on through to 'utterly bizarre'.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Jive is a dance step that we've seen every week on Dancing With The Stars. It's a fast kick routine performed to a quick beat song.

Palin must have seen it performed many times over the two seasons that her daughter was on the show.

-PJ

39 posted on 10/25/2012 1:55:18 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

The shuck part I knew, having shucked my share of horse and cow corn.

Wasn’t clear on the jive except the kin did a lot of yapping as we sat around shuckin’. ....;)


40 posted on 10/25/2012 2:04:56 PM PDT by Salamander (I think I need some rest but sleeping don't come very easy...in a straight white vest.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
I have never thought that anyone should rely on something called "Wikipedia" for a reference.

The term is well known slang, dealing with mannerisms, not really judgmental in any sense. But it does describe some of Obama's mannerisms.

What Mrs. Palin's use of the term certainly did not imply was any overall judgment of any racial group, community or political movement. Frankly, where is the racial insult supposed to be derived?

We do not know whether Obama supposedly got his "shuckin & jiving' mannerism from his Luo father, genetically; from his confused mother, either from his upbringing, or genetically; from his rearing in Indonesia; or from the Marxist Whites who trained him in anti-American values. If one were to hazard a guess, it would most likely put the blame on those Marxist Whites, who in their actual contempt for the objects of Obama's "community organizing," thought the mannerisms would help him in undermining certain Chicago communities.

In short, if there is a racial insult, here; it was the insult of Obama's Marxist tutors, directed at those Chicago communities. Mrs. Palin simply recognized the behavior involved, as exhibited by Obama. (Incidentally, the Luo tribe has nothing in common with any community in Chicago, so no one should suggest any connection, there. The media may be confused on the point, but no serious anthropologist would be.)

William Flax

41 posted on 10/25/2012 2:09:28 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Dr. Thorne

Per Hyterical History the term ‘jive’ began with Currier and Jives, printers who would deliver jive to your home by currier or messenger.

Next, with car pools came jiving boards where people sat around and said dumb things in a serious way.

But shuckin’ was from corn shuckin’ where you try to peel off the husks only to find more corn underneath which is kinda like this post, nothin’ but corn.


42 posted on 10/25/2012 2:11:25 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL!

How long until Nazis get mentioned?


43 posted on 10/25/2012 2:29:38 PM PDT by Salamander (I think I need some rest but sleeping don't come very easy...in a straight white vest.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Jive is a dance step that we've seen every week on Dancing With The Stars.

True as far as that goes, however, I believe that shuckin' and jivin' has been going on a lot longer then "Dancing With the Stars". I'm guessing that it goes back as far as the mid 19th century.

Regards,
GtG

44 posted on 10/25/2012 4:53:45 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Thumbs up!!


45 posted on 10/25/2012 5:17:15 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Salamander
Decidedly Multicultural.
46 posted on 10/25/2012 6:39:22 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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Bookmarking


47 posted on 10/26/2012 6:03:10 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Golly!


48 posted on 10/26/2012 8:23:18 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Looks like that prediction didn’t hold up, did it?
Here’s the reality:

The Globalist Agenda - Official Newswatch Magazine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sanYokj2Kx0

CFR Deception — Official Newswatch Magazine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ENA3wvOPgc


something else interesting, fareed zakaria is a cfr board member, and he pretty much tells people how it will be from now on...

cnn - fareed zakaria: who ever wins this election will have a good economy in 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxqM2PrlVfU

cnn - fareed zakaria - optimism, nostaglia, deception - globalization is here, america
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1BDp3kb10w


49 posted on 02/03/2013 2:22:17 PM PST by spydat3k (new world order, globalization, global government.)
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