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Pussy Riot and Russia's surreal 'justice'
CNN ^ | 08/17/12 | Rachel Denber

Posted on 08/17/2012 4:22:14 PM PDT by BurningOak

Moscow (CNN) -- There is no basic human right to barge into a church to make a political statement, jump around near the altar, and shout obscenities. But there is most certainly the right not to lose your liberty for doing so, even if the act is offensive.

But that is exactly what happened Friday. A court in Moscow sentenced the three members of the feminist punk band Pussy Riot to two years in prison.

In my two decades monitoring human rights in Russia I've never seen anything like the Pussy Riot case -- the media attention, the outpouring of public support, the celebrity statements for the detained and criminally charged punk band members.

The image of three young women facing down an inexorable system of unfair justice and an oppressive state has crystallized for many in the West what is wrong with human rights in Russia. To be sure, it is deeply troubling.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: freedomofspeech; putin; russia; tyranny
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To: BurningOak

I just want to add: Or, what would happen if a group of men had done what they did?


61 posted on 08/17/2012 6:12:33 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: BurningOak

Whom are you working for?


62 posted on 08/17/2012 6:27:00 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: BurningOak
There is no basic human right to barge into a church to make a political statement, jump around near the altar, and shout obscenities. But there is most certainly the right not to lose your liberty for doing so, even if the act is offensive.

"The right to lose your liberty"? WTF?

Uh, Rachel, they broke the law, they went to jail, if you don't like the sentence stick to that without trying to, like, think and chew gum at the same time.

But WHILE you're thinking about things anyway, do you have any comments on the recent stories about Muslims CRUCIFYING their opponents?

Rachel?

Hellloooooo, Rachel?

63 posted on 08/17/2012 6:27:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Honorary Serb
...Editor’s note: Rachel Denber is deputy director of the Europe and Central Asia division at Human Rights Watch...

Thanks, it does explain it all. I don't like to give CNN hits, so I wouldn't see it.

Burning Oak should have fessed up to a HRW source.

Thanks also for the list of HRW engineered ethnic cleansing and genocides.

...Putin came into power as the direct result of Clinton’s nearly successful plot to destroy Russia forever under Yeltsin and the oligarchs.

Yep, the Marxist DemoRats have been forcing America into anti Christian warfare for longer than the Zero's tenure.

I FULLY support the Russian Orthodox and Serbian Orthodox Churches, which are the heart and soul of the Russian and Serbian people. I applaud Russia for making “human rightser” NGOs register as the foreign agents they are, and teaching the blasphemous, anti-Orthodox punkster women a lesson they will never forget!

The Church supports giving them a chance to repent, followed by a pardon. Fine with me. But “human rightser” NGOs have got to go!!!!

Finally a realistic view of Church policy. I agree.

Pussy Riot, HRW, the leftist international MSM, Hollywood and entertainment celebrities are the really bad guys here, and I mean REALLY bad.

64 posted on 08/17/2012 6:31:12 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: BurningOak

They got off easy. I’d hope that they’d get a stiffer sentence here in Texas if they pulled that stunt.


65 posted on 08/17/2012 6:37:37 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: allendale

I bet they would literally be torn to pieces if they tried


66 posted on 08/17/2012 6:38:19 PM PDT by winodog
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To: BurningOak

Three contemptible little leftist pigs. But I agree two years in jail is a bit much for their stunt.


67 posted on 08/17/2012 6:39:18 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

Thank you, Burning Oak needed that.


68 posted on 08/17/2012 6:40:44 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Psychiatry is just another religion and we have allowed it to be threaded all through our judicial system.


69 posted on 08/17/2012 6:43:12 PM PDT by donna (Republicans wont change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

This Roman Catholic is right there with you.


70 posted on 08/17/2012 6:45:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BurningOak

Russian leftists like these “smart and sassy” atheist lesbians have a history of mass murdering Christians and burning down churches. I’m glad they are going to prision. We have some atheist Christian haters attacking churches and Christians here who need have their pussy riot moved into a prision, too.


71 posted on 08/17/2012 6:45:28 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: PAR35
They got off easy. I’d hope that they’d get a stiffer sentence here in Texas if they pulled that stunt.

They were convicted for hooliganism aimed at inciting religious hatred. Do you want such hate laws in this country... yes or no?

72 posted on 08/17/2012 6:47:56 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: BurningOak
Regarding your multiple comments equating our Lord to these vile characters - stop your blasphemy.
This 'Pussy Riot' group was not motivated by a zeal of God the Father, instead their actions were motivated to support sexual perversion. A perversion that is an abomination to God; a perversion that kills the body and the soul.
73 posted on 08/17/2012 6:50:06 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Ken H
They were convicted for hooliganism aimed at inciting religious hatred. Do you want such hate laws in this country... yes or no?

Sort of like the Gay Mafia in this country.

74 posted on 08/17/2012 7:00:16 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Ken H; PAR35
They were convicted for hooliganism aimed at inciting religious hatred. Do you want such hate laws in this country... yes or no?

Moot, we already have such laws in the United States, they're just enforced against conservatives, Christians, Republicans, and straight White men exclusively.

75 posted on 08/17/2012 7:05:17 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: BurningOak

Christ is very much alive today. As members of the band and the church will soon find out.....


76 posted on 08/17/2012 7:16:08 PM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: BurningOak; All

Pussy riot is a feminist wing of a neo-bolshevik group “Vojna” aka “War”. Their activity is centered against a church and law-enforcement.

Another their acts are “Dick in the ass” punk performance in a courtroom, “mentopop” performance which was about robbing a supermarket wearing a mix of police uniform and a priest’s dress, burnind down one and turning upside down another police vehicle, a series of sexual assaults on police women in subways etc.

In fact some of their “comrades” were on trial for these things before, that is there this “Dick in the ass” performance from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUaJLNonytg
You can see all these faces.

“Mordovian hour” performance on May, 1 2008 (throwing stray cats into McDonald’s kitchen to feed animals with decadent food and make low-paid workforce celebrate Labor day as they claim it):
http://plucer.livejournal.com/199615.html

Attacks on police cadets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0A8Qf893cs
Note the song in Yiddish in background. It is a Jewish bolshevik song from October revolution, which is roughly about “!@#$ the police”. AFAIK one of performers was finally shot in process.

Mentopop:
http://plucer.livejournal.com/94884.html

A “screw the feds” prank on KGB agent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ory-oJlK3ho&feature=related

Burning up a police truck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCm-s-vTebA

Another police vehicle destroyed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uBQBtnkmec

And that is their promo video:
http://rutube.ru/video/6a7f22163d2b7deb93982c7101508723/

I’m not including public orgies, sex with a frozen chicken in store etc.
They need to get jailed forever.


77 posted on 08/17/2012 7:26:06 PM PDT by cunning_fish (.)
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To: PAR35

So do you want such hate laws in this country... yes or no?


78 posted on 08/17/2012 7:28:53 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: cunning_fish
Pussy Riot is even worse that I thought.

Bolshevik Commies, the worst of the worst.

Then again, look who's kissing them, I shoulda known.

Seems Burning Oak is kinda quiet, maybe he went out, or got taken for a ride.

79 posted on 08/17/2012 7:57:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: workerbee

“What, and let the opportunity to print & say PUSSY RIOT all over the airwaves go to waste?”

...and that, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of why the FR Class of 98, is so far superior to any other.

Bravo! Great post, and by the way (I really like spelling that out), Workerbee, you owe me a keyboard.

PUSSY RIOT PUSSY RIOT PUSSY RIOT PUSSY RIOT PUSSY RIOT PUSSY RIOT PUSSY RIOT PUSSY RIOT
Sorry, couldn’t resist...


80 posted on 08/17/2012 8:00:06 PM PDT by VMI70
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