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Judge refuses to halt Pennsylvania’s voter identification law
The Washington Post ^ | 08/15/12 | Unattributed

Posted on 08/15/2012 10:24:49 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

HARRISBURG, Pa. — A tough new voter identification law championed by Republicans can take effect in Pennsylvania for November’s presidential election, a judge ruled Wednesday, despite a torrent of criticism that it will suppress votes among President Barack Obama’s supporters and make it harder for the elderly, disabled, poor and young adults to vote.

Commonwealth Court Judge Robert Simpson said he would not grant an injunction that would have halted the law, which requires each voter to show a valid photo ID. Opponents are expected to file an appeal within a day or two to the state Supreme Court as the Nov. 6 election looms.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012election; election; elections; fraud; voting
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Note the completely unpartial original headline:

Judge refuses to halt Pennsylvania’s tough new GOP-backed voter identification law

No bias there!

1 posted on 08/15/2012 10:24:56 AM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: fatima; South Hawthorne; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; ..

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2 posted on 08/15/2012 10:26:50 AM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: TonyInOhio

Don’t forget “despite a torrent of criticism”....as though that’s a part of our legal system.


3 posted on 08/15/2012 10:30:38 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (OWS = The Great American Snivel War)
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To: TonyInOhio
...despite a torrent of criticism that it will suppress votes among President Barack Obama’s supporters...

Have you ever noticed, you have to have a photo ID have a job? If this law eliminates anyone from voting, it's a small subclass of folks who are unemployable.

Funny how that works.

4 posted on 08/15/2012 10:32:09 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: TonyInOhio

I’m glad the law is upheld, but I wonder how effective it really will be in Philadelphia with the Dems political machine entrenched there.


5 posted on 08/15/2012 10:33:58 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: TonyInOhio

You need a photo id to get into an Obama event, you need a photo id to attend the DNC convention, you need a photo id to tour the White House ... why do the DemocRATs deny these things to blacks and Hispanics?


6 posted on 08/15/2012 10:35:22 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "One can argue about whose fault it is, but not ... whose responsibility it is: it's his")
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To: TonyInOhio
For $13.50 you can get a Pennsylvania ID card which lasts 8 years if you don't have a driver's license. You need a birth certificate/passport and two items like utility bills or tax records that show your current address. $1.69 per year isn't exactly a heavy burden.
7 posted on 08/15/2012 10:36:37 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: Shadow44
I’m glad the law is upheld, but I wonder how effective it really will be in Philadelphia with the Dems political machine entrenched there.

That's true ... Florida has a voter photo id law. Yesterday my photo id was very well scrutinized; in 2010 I almost had to force it upon the poll-worker. It will take trained poll-watchers to keep the id system honest.

8 posted on 08/15/2012 10:38:05 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "One can argue about whose fault it is, but not ... whose responsibility it is: it's his")
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To: Shadow44
I’m glad the law is upheld, but I wonder how effective it really will be in Philadelphia with the Dems political machine entrenched there.

They will attempt to not enforce the law so Republicans will have to post observers to record and report. Wonder what the penalties are?

9 posted on 08/15/2012 10:39:30 AM PDT by Skulllspitter
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To: Skulllspitter

Don’t worry, it won’t be long until THIS decision is overturned.

Resume scheduling.....


10 posted on 08/15/2012 10:42:54 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: TonyInOhio

I read that totally biased article earlier. No mention that 74% support voter identification laws.


11 posted on 08/15/2012 10:46:00 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: TonyInOhio

I guess SAT testing to get into college is racist and a Jim Crow rule?


12 posted on 08/15/2012 10:52:15 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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This is what is going to happen now. There will be a “torrent” of people BROUGHT to the polls without ID on election day.


13 posted on 08/15/2012 10:53:16 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: KarlInOhio

And why is this a supposed burden on the “young”? Because they’re too lazy to go to the DMV?

MY son recently turned 18, and he was registered for the SS and to vote, had an ID, and opened a bank account within a week or two, without a single suggestion from me.


14 posted on 08/15/2012 10:55:09 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: TonyInOhio
Another state swings sharply Republican for some reason...

I find it curious that to get welfare and disability you have to show ID, but to vote, suddenly it is discriminatory because the welfare people or disabled may not have ID.

15 posted on 08/15/2012 10:56:49 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: TonyInOhio

I wish everyone would look this up for this state and start responding to these voter id objections as being stupid: YOU NEED AN ID TO REGISTER TO VOTE, at least, in Texas. Its IMPOSSIBLE for someone to not be able to show an ID to vote if they are registered, since they’ve ALREADY shown one to register.

This business of talking about where an ID is needed is all well and good, but the real response, as shown here, shows the absolute STUPIDITY of arguing this will suppress ANY voter turnout.

So, please, look up your state’s statute on voter registration requirements and post it here.


16 posted on 08/15/2012 10:57:04 AM PDT by 1L
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To: colorcountry

Some Federal judge will stick their nose in and issue an injunction less than 72 hours before voting begins. This will cause maximum chaos, and will not allow our side time to appeal. That’s how Alinsky would have played it.


17 posted on 08/15/2012 11:06:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Skulllspitter
I’m glad the law is upheld, but I wonder how effective it really will be in Philadelphia with the Dems political machine entrenched there

That's where the New Black Pampers come in. While the Rats are stuffing ballots the Pampers will crack that skull of any cracka that dares enter the polling place.

18 posted on 08/15/2012 11:17:07 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (I can haz CW 2 now?)
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To: Oberon

And I’ve also noticed that it’s always ‘rat/0bama voters that have trouble getting photo ID...

It’s not like the DMV has some sort of political test or something.


19 posted on 08/15/2012 11:20:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: American in Israel

Yeah, it’s a lot of fun to point out the sheer idiocy of their excuses,

but it’s a lot better just to state the truth:

“DEMOCRATS oppose voter ID because it makes it harder for DEMOCRATS TO CHEAT, and voter fraud is EXCLUSIVELY A DEMOCRAT TACTIC.”


20 posted on 08/15/2012 11:23:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: KarlInOhio

You are a heartless bastard and hate the poor.


21 posted on 08/15/2012 11:30:59 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: TonyInOhio
We all have to show identification for EVERYTHING. Why is voting exempt? (rhetorical)
22 posted on 08/15/2012 11:53:50 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: justice14
I guess SAT testing to get into college is racist and a Jim Crow rule?

Well, yeah, unless the scores can be disregarded in light of "life experience".

23 posted on 08/15/2012 11:58:04 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: TonyInOhio
I'm surprised it wasn't worded to say, "Judge refuses to halt Pennsylvania’s tough new RACIST, GOP-backed voter identification law.
24 posted on 08/15/2012 12:04:18 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

that will be next:

Judge orders Fire Department to hire black and Hispanic applicants who failed “racist” written test

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2911704/posts

and remember the Atlanta schools testing scandal?


25 posted on 08/15/2012 12:07:09 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Skulllspitter
The year IN put our voter ID in place the SoS made it known to all county clerks that he had hired extra deputies in his office who would be traveling the state observing and making certain that the law was being administered properly.
26 posted on 08/15/2012 12:21:35 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Shadow44
It's up to the patriots in PA to monitor their own. Entrenchment or no entrenchment, they must stand up for what is right, and make sure others do the same. To you folks in PA, are you volunteering to work at the polls? Are you making sure your family, friends, neighbors are registered to vote, and that they have transportation to the polls? YOU must protect the vote. The scum socialist/marxist/communist/sharia law loving thugs known as oboma and minions, will play the dirtiest voter fraud game ever in this election...I live in the Chicago area, and I know political SCUM. Time to band together, Pennsylvania, you're the boots on the ground...defend our Constitution, Freedom and Liberty...hear the Liberty Bell...it calls to us all. May God protect us in our time of need.
27 posted on 08/15/2012 12:31:56 PM PDT by itssme
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To: TonyInOhio

make it harder for the elderly, disabled, poor and young adults to vote.


Why because they have take,maybe, two hours to go to the DMV and get a Pa ID for $10?
Why don’t the Spendocrats waive the $10 fee.
Since, all these folks are so poor they can’t afford $10 in order to vote?

Otherwise, are the elderly,disabled, poor and young adults to stupid they can’t find two forms of ID and the location of the DMV?


28 posted on 08/15/2012 12:53:24 PM PDT by Leep (I'm a Chic-Fil--A-merican)
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To: TonyInOhio

I watched a certain subset of humanity attempt to return a fishing rod to Dicks Sporting Goods yesterday without either the receipt or identification. I felt like asking the cashier if she thought it was some kind of dry run, but my 5 second delay kicked in.


29 posted on 08/15/2012 1:09:51 PM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: Leep
Why because they have take,maybe, two hours to go to the DMV and get a Pa ID for $10? Why don’t the Spendocrats waive the $10 fee. Since, all these folks are so poor they can’t afford $10 in order to vote? Otherwise, are the elderly,disabled, poor and young adults to stupid they can’t find two forms of ID and the location of the DMV?

I like the way the come right out and say that Democrats have a corner on the STUPID elderly, disabled, poor and young voters.

30 posted on 08/15/2012 1:27:01 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: TonyInOhio

YES!

America is RISING!


31 posted on 08/15/2012 1:42:58 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Dogs + stress = If you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and waIlk away.)
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To: TonyInOhio

YONE living in 2012 America wihout a picture ID is like the unibomber living in a remote cabin in the woods.


32 posted on 08/15/2012 2:02:48 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: KarlInOhio

It’s free if you can’t afford it.


33 posted on 08/15/2012 2:25:53 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Oberon

You can’t get welfare benefits without a govt. ID. The subset of people “disenfranchised” doesn’t legally exist.

Think about it: someone who refuses government ID, yet is passionate about voting for that same government?

You can probably set them on a school bus and not fill it. This stops vote fraud, the dead voting, and illegals.


34 posted on 08/15/2012 2:38:10 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Eagles6
It’s free if you can’t afford it.

Good for you..I was just going to post this.

There is NO reason for someone in this country legally not to have ID that would be acceptable to vote.

35 posted on 08/15/2012 4:10:02 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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The FReepathon is still on.
Please donate today!

36 posted on 08/15/2012 4:17:42 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: TonyInOhio

Of course the left has no problem with non-citizens voting which amounts to neutering the vote of a citizen.


37 posted on 08/15/2012 5:07:32 PM PDT by QT3.14 (Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain)
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To: Shadow44

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn’t expect the law to be strictly enforced in Dem heavy areas.


38 posted on 08/15/2012 5:36:03 PM PDT by Random_User_250 ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: KarlInOhio

I’ve always said to get around any ID’s are too expenisve nonsense to just make a State ID card free. Personally I would be happy to subsidize non DL ID cards so that I can make sure that our elections keep free of dead, felon, and duplicate voting.


39 posted on 08/15/2012 6:17:47 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Irish Eyes

;-)


40 posted on 08/15/2012 10:17:21 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: BillyBonebrake

LOL! great post!

SZQ


41 posted on 08/16/2012 3:57:31 AM PDT by homegroan (Veni, Vedi, Velcro and Ranting...since 1998)
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To: TonyInOhio

Gee, what will be the impact on the “Deceased-American” vote?


42 posted on 08/16/2012 4:14:46 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: 1L

Illinois requires a photo ID to register for PRIMARY elections but not so for GENEARL elections

Rules for registering to vote:

Primary election

To participate in a primary election in the state of Illinois, eligible voters must be registered to vote. To register to vote in a primary election in Illinois, each person must be able to present two forms of identification with at least one form including a photo of the voter. You do not have to register with a political party or claim membership to a political party to vote in Illinois primary elections, simply request the ballot of the party for which you wish to cast a ballot. You can choose a different party ballot in each primary, but only one party ballot per primary election

General Election Registration

What forms of identification may be needed when I register to vote?
Two forms of identification with at least one showing your current residence address is needed when you register in-person. If you register by mail sufficient proof of identity is required by submission of your driver’s license number or State identification card number. If you don’t have either of those, verification by the last 4 digits of the your social security number, a copy of a current and valid photo identification, or a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck, government check, or other government document that shows your name and address will be required. A person may also demonstrate sufficient proof of identity by submission of a photo identification issued by a college or university accompanied by either a copy of the applicant’s contract or lease for a residence or any postmarked mail delivered to the applicant at his or her current residence address.


43 posted on 08/16/2012 4:17:41 PM PDT by mund1011
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To: 1L

Illinois requires a photo ID to register for PRIMARY elections but not so for GENEARL elections

Rules for registering to vote:

Primary election

To participate in a primary election in the state of Illinois, eligible voters must be registered to vote. To register to vote in a primary election in Illinois, each person must be able to present two forms of identification with at least one form including a photo of the voter. You do not have to register with a political party or claim membership to a political party to vote in Illinois primary elections, simply request the ballot of the party for which you wish to cast a ballot. You can choose a different party ballot in each primary, but only one party ballot per primary election

General Election Registration

What forms of identification may be needed when I register to vote?
Two forms of identification with at least one showing your current residence address is needed when you register in-person. If you register by mail sufficient proof of identity is required by submission of your driver’s license number or State identification card number. If you don’t have either of those, verification by the last 4 digits of the your social security number, a copy of a current and valid photo identification, or a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck, government check, or other government document that shows your name and address will be required. A person may also demonstrate sufficient proof of identity by submission of a photo identification issued by a college or university accompanied by either a copy of the applicant’s contract or lease for a residence or any postmarked mail delivered to the applicant at his or her current residence address.


44 posted on 08/16/2012 4:18:01 PM PDT by mund1011
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To: TonyInOhio

The poor, the elderly, young adults, little puppy dogs, cute little kitty cats, spring robins, dead people by surrogates, fictitious people by surrogates, and people who have trouble reading butterfly ballots, will all be disenfranchised by this horrible, inhumane law./sarc


45 posted on 08/16/2012 4:48:38 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: TonyInOhio

It’ll be appealed and overturned. You watch.


46 posted on 08/16/2012 4:51:56 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: TonyInOhio

You need picture ID to buy Drano in Chicago. No joke.


47 posted on 08/16/2012 4:56:24 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: TonyInOhio

You need picture ID to buy Drano in Chicago. No joke.


48 posted on 08/16/2012 4:56:39 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Oberon

In TN, you can’t buy beer without a photo ID!


49 posted on 08/16/2012 5:50:21 PM PDT by rashley (Rashley)
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To: Almondjoy
I’ve always said to get around any ID’s are too expenisve nonsense to just make a State ID card free.

That's exactly what Indiana did.

50 posted on 08/16/2012 6:05:42 PM PDT by Jess79
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