[RKBA Democrat]

The problem is the gop e IS the gop. The only folks who are making a somewhat successful attempt to change it are the Ron Paul supporters. While I personally sympathize with them, they are not supported by most traditional conservatives.

[muawiyah]

Currently the fielded voting strength of the GOP-e is about 15% of all Republican votes. We have several different Conservative factions within the GOP coalition who have more voters than that. Together, hard core Conservative voters are at least 40% of the total party vote. There's another group of traditional Republicans who will usually turn out for whoever is nominated but they don't have any core values that influence party ideology.

I think it has come time to simply expel the GOP-e lock, stock and barrel. They contribute little to party success these days, so why should we allow them to run their toadies in our primaries!

[magglepuss]

The only folks who are making a somewhat successful attempt to change it are the Ron Paul supporters. While I personally sympathize with them, they are not supported by most traditional conservatives.

All of this is just so sad. If you try to come up with solutions to change the outcome, those, even on FR. laugh and name call. If you say, “Fine, i’m not voting for your guy”, the same name calling.

How do we put up a fight when so many like minded individuals have given up. That is the loss that is America. Not the economic situation, or the gay agenda, but the fact that so many are not willing to try anything to change the current situation, while admitting they will be voting for the lesser of two evils.