Posted on 08/04/2012 6:17:26 AM PDT by scottjewell
Tea Party Nation’s Judson Phillips told members in an email today that their movement cannot avoid the issue of same-sex marriage...:
"Gay marriage is often identified as a social issue and many in the conservative and Tea Party movement say leave social issues alone.
While we can have that debate as to whether we should include social issues or not, this is an issue that is not purely a social issue.
The left has been making war on the family in America for over fifty years.
Why?
The traditional family, and the left hates that expression, is the most stable unit in America. The left wants to transform America from a liberty based, free market economy into a socialist economy, absent freedom.
What is on of the most effective tools socialists have to do this? Attacking the family. ...
Liberals operate under a delusion called socialist reality...
The left’s definition of equality is to allow anyone and anything to marry...
Traditionally marriage has worked well in America for centuries. It has always been one man and one woman. Those who want to change this bear the burden of showing why this would be good for the nation.
So far they have not.
Given the carnage that the liberals’ policies have created, the idea of redefining marriage into something unrecognizable and equally indefinable should be something that we conservatives must reject and defeat in the political arena and in the court of public opinion.
Liberty and freedom depend on a stable nation, stable government and stable families. Those who claim they support “equality” do not support liberty. They support anarchy.
Anarchy and freedom cannot co-exist.
In the end only one can prevail and history is riddle with the graves of those who learned what happened when freedom lost."
(Excerpt) Read more at rightwingwatch.org ...
That fast food commercial in which a guy loses a bet and marries a goat could become reality.
Commentary: Conservatives need to wake up & see the threat.
“Social” and “fiscal” issues the same to those out to destabilize society.
POSTED: May 4, 2012
When the radical homosexual organizations and the “Occupy” movement team up to brutally stop a Tea Party rally, what else do you need to know? They are clearly natural allies in the effort to destabilize our society.
A vocal minority of Tea Party people in Massachusetts were skittish and upset when the Tea Party Coalition decided to include so-called “social issues” in their repertoire of topics for that event. “It will hurt our brand” or “it will alienate people” or “it’s not what the Tea Party is about” were some whines we all heard.
Well, guess what? They rioters see it all as one big movement. They understand that “social issues” and “fiscal issues” are two sides of the same coin that can radically change America. (And of course, that’s how every philosopher from Marx to Jefferson saw it, because it is so.) A nation’s fiscal policies are merely the product of its overall morality and ideology. To have a solid constitutional government along with a population that can’t control its passions or morality is simply a pipe dream.
(In fact, the rioters jeered Carla Howell, a fiscal-issues-only Libertarian speaker — who took pains to inform them she is pro-gay marriage! — just as loudly that day!)
But more importantly, this event should make it clear that as soon as the Tea Party — or anyone — gets in the radicals’ way, this is what will happen. These people have no rules except to destroy those who disagree with them. You think you can agree with them on “gay rights” but disagree with them on taxes? Think again. With these people it’s all or nothing. And so it should also be with those who are fighting for what’s right.
Stopping the “progressive” juggernaut is ultimately a much bigger and nastier fight than a lot of conservatives or Tea Partiers probably thought they’d be in. But that’s what we have before us. Are you up for it? We are.
http://massresistance.com/docs/gen2/12b/tea_party_0415/commentary.html
Screaming thugs from homosexual groups and “Occupy Boston” disrupt & drown out peaceful April 15 “Patriots Day” Tea Party rally on Boston Common
Boston police mostly stand and watch.
http://massresistance.com/docs/gen2/12b/tea_party_0415/attack/index.html
Thanks for that commentary, and for linking.
Yes, it is foolish when ceratian “fiscal conservatives” and Tea Party members believe that they can focus on economic and government issues and just leave social issues out of the equation. The two are intertwined and always have been.
I agree.
Yes, all “full equality” would do is further weaken social boundaries. The gay agenda ought to have been noble enough to stop with civil unions.
Remind me again why the government is even in the business of marriage — hetro or homo? Remind me again why married people have a lower tax rate than single people? Remind me again why married people can pass their Social Security on to each other and single people cannot pass it on to anyone else?
Get the government out of the marriage business and the whole gay marriage issue is dead!
No more government social engineering for either side!
If you are a Conservative you’ll agree with me. If you are a pseudo Conservative then you’ll reply back to me with something nasty just like a crybaby libtard because I threaten to take away one of your government goodies (shiny keys), aka special tax breaks.
Never, ever forget that. When 'discussing' with libs, they will always try to maneuver you into a position where you have to try to convince them. Always remember that THEY need to convince YOU, NOT the other way around.
Avacado you are quite correct. The government has no place in marriage. I have always wondered why people are required to obtain a license to get married. The government provides absoulutely nothing in return for that license, it is merely another tax. Also, Social Security should not be passed on in any way shape or form. It is an absolute travesty that the SS system has become what it is now.
Thanks, I thought I was gonna get hammered for my post. I consider marriage to be part of “...and the pursuit of happiness” which means no government involvement.
“Yes, it is foolish when ceratian “fiscal conservatives” and Tea Party members believe that they can focus on economic and government issues and just leave social issues out of the equation. The two are intertwined and always have been.”
In complete agreement.
The “economic war” and “culture wars” are but branches of the same tree.
They want to tear down “our tree” (not just specific branches, but the ENTIRE tree), and replace it with theirs.
I can’t seem to remember — how does that old saying about “the tree” go...?
“Yes, it is foolish when ceratian “fiscal conservatives” and Tea Party members believe that they can focus on economic and government issues and just leave social issues out of the equation. The two are intertwined and always have been.”
In complete agreement.
The “economic war” and “culture wars” are but branches of the same tree.
They want to tear down “our tree” (not just specific branches, but the ENTIRE tree), and replace it with theirs.
I can’t seem to remember — how does that old saying about “the tree” go...?
That is just parroting the useful idiot lines of the far left.
Society rewards the institution not the individual.
Marriage promotes the future of society.
conservative is conservative there are no sepearations of social and fiscal isues.
The government HAS to be in this issue. You are delusional to assume society can function long term outside of this issue. WE USED TO HAVE a voluntary recording system which was rife with fraud.
Marriage is about children, PROPERTY RIGHTS, inheritance, and wealth creation.
Conservatives get this. Useful idiots do not.
Liberals keep saying that straights go to vegas for a drive through wedding and that is considered dignified? I sorta wish they would stop the Vegas wedding thing. It does hurt the cause.
Man avacado, you just brought out a big government lover in longtermmemmory. Good job. These big government lovers are the reason we are in the mess we are in. What a turd this guy is.
“Conservatives get this. Useful idiots do not.”
Well said.
That turd is just as bad as a nanny state liberal.
What an elitist prick! So I guess because I am single such matters of property rights, inheritance, and wealth creation don't apply to me.
Nice going "special rights" tard!
compared to the anarchist dogma espoused?
Without appropriate inheritance law there is no property rights. Part of property rights is the ability to determine ownership rights of property in which you have an interest. By eliminating marriage, as advocated by the left via removing any marriage law, you eliminate property rights and future estates.
As the ABA advocates, chilren are mere accessories to “breeding pairs” with no ability of parents to pass any property other than child support until majority. No multigenerations.
You die then government reclaims any property and interests you had during life for redistribution. In case anyone is from rio linda, that is bad.
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