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DA Calls Out NRA After AK-47 Toting Septa Passenger's Bail Increased(PA)
myfoxphilly.com ^ | 3 August, 2012 | Dave Schratwieser

Posted on 08/04/2012 3:56:16 AM PDT by marktwain

PHILADELPHIA -

As a detective carried away the high powered AK-47 seized by SEPTA Police from a passenger on a rush hour train this week, DA Seth Williams came out firing.

"I don't care what the NRA says, they can kiss my butt," Williams said. "I don't care. There's no reason for a guy to have a gun like that."

Williams comments came after a judge hiked the bail for suspect Jermal Ponds from $100,000 to $200,000. He said SEPTA police and a brave citizen who spotted Ponds with an AK-47 assault rifle like this, averted a "real major tragedy" from occurring on the city's subway system.

"What is it like G.I. Joe or something. I mean, the whole thing is crazy," added Mayor Michael Nutter.

The DA wanted half a million dollars bail, calling Ponds a danger to the community. Ponds was spotted on a rush hour train at the City Hall station by a subway passenger. He was carrying a bag with the AK-47 and another weapon, plus a loaded 40 round magazine. Minutes later SEPTA police arrested Ponds at the Fairmount station.

"It's just amazing to think of the mayhem, the destruction, the pain and violence that this defendant could have brought," Williams said.

Ponds' attorney Lawrence O'Connor fired back "The district attorney's motion, in our opinion, was simply to further sensationalize this case."

Passengers on SEPTA believe the judge was right to increase Ponds bail. Several cited the recent massacre at a Colorado movie complex by a suspect with an AR-15 military style rifle.

"What if he would have pulled that gun out and starting shooting at everybody," passenger Marvin Ellis said.

"I wouldn't want to see him get out," another added.

Ponds lawyer says he was moving the guns from his girlfriends home to a new apartment and had no intention of using them. He said a "lapse in judgement" caused him to get on the SEPTA subway with the weapons.

Police says Ponds has three prior arrests, but no convictions. Both weapons were legally registered, but Ponds did not have a permit to carry the handgun. Police say he shouldn't have been carrying the AK-47 in the same bag with the loaded 40 round magazine.

Ponds will be back in court Aug. 17th.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; pa; philadelphia
What is he charged with? I do not see any crime, unless Philadelphia has made it illegal to transport unloaded guns on public transport.

It is hard to believe that would be more than a civil offense. I do not see how a concealed weapon charge would hold up. How could you transport a firearm to the range, or for repair, or to a new apartment if you could not move it, unloaded, from one place to another?

1 posted on 08/04/2012 3:56:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

There’s no reason for a guy to have a gun like that.”

We said the same thing about your security personel that protect your a##.


2 posted on 08/04/2012 4:00:15 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: marktwain
I don't care what the NRA says, they can kiss my butt," Williams said. "I don't care. There's no reason for a guy to have a gun like that."

Pricks like this is EXACTLY why we need guns like that.
3 posted on 08/04/2012 4:03:12 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: marktwain

As a detective carried away the high powered AK-47 seized by SEPTA...

Well see, thats the problem right there.
If he had been carrying one of the “low powered” models he would have been just fine


4 posted on 08/04/2012 4:03:39 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: RandallFlagg

RUFUS Seth Williams (yes, Rufus is his real name, but he pretend otherwise these days) has been a tool his entire life. Look up his actions at Penn State when he was the leader of black students and because of something like 1600 total votes became the student body president of a 32,000 student campus. His occupation of the telecommunications building in 1988 or 89 - in a bid to shut down all student and university phones to seize control of the campus - made his reputation with the left wingers on the East Coast.

Nowadays, Penn State gives him awards: http://www.abington.psu.edu/alumni/news

He reminds me of Obama.


5 posted on 08/04/2012 4:12:31 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: marktwain

6 posted on 08/04/2012 4:13:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

I don’t care what Seth Williams says, he can kiss my butt.


7 posted on 08/04/2012 4:14:21 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: marktwain

Well, now anyone with a new phone book knows what apartment to break into...unless he has dropped a landline in favor of cellular only.


8 posted on 08/04/2012 4:16:17 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: marktwain
What is he charged with?

Causing the involuntary release of bodily fluids by knee-jerk hoplophobes?

9 posted on 08/04/2012 4:17:44 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: marktwain

Lots of what ifs and might haves there.


10 posted on 08/04/2012 4:21:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

“What is he charged with?”

“Unregistered handgun”, from what the video says. In that Philly sh*thole, that’s not going to end well for him.


11 posted on 08/04/2012 4:22:36 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie and stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

This reminds me of the old saying from my youth, “mark the spot because you are ass all over”.


12 posted on 08/04/2012 4:31:31 AM PDT by Machavelli (True God)
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To: marktwain; carriage_hill

My error. It was not an unregistered handgun. It was lack of a “permit to carry...”

If it was concealed carry, that’s a CCW permit problem. If he was simply transporting in a case, then that’s a different matter. Still unclear to me, after re-watching it 2x.


13 posted on 08/04/2012 4:31:50 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie and stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: marktwain

We better learn to play dirty, just like these scumbags.

Philadelphia city gov’t hates the private ownership of firearms.

Pennsylvania law pre-empts any local laws against firearms.

So, the city of Philadelphia has taken it upon themselves to harass, abuse and impugn any firearm owner they can find (except the criminal ones).

Criminals are not pursued in Philadelphia, just soon to be disarmed citizens.


14 posted on 08/04/2012 4:37:08 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: marktwain
“”””I don't care what the NRA says, they can kiss my butt,” Williams said. “I don't care. There's no reason for a guy to have a gun like that.”

“It's just amazing to think of the mayhem, the destruction, the pain and violence that this defendant could have brought,” Williams said. “”””

Actually, Mr. DA, the mayhem pain and destruction caused, over history, by people in authority who have your lawless authortarian attitude is exactly why The People need guns. And sir, YOU can kiss MY butt.

15 posted on 08/04/2012 4:43:10 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Erik Latranyi

Nobody in their right mind willingly lives in Philadelphia.


16 posted on 08/04/2012 4:45:59 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: marktwain

COMMIE JUDGE!


17 posted on 08/04/2012 4:48:18 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: marktwain
"I don't care what the NRA says, they can kiss my butt," Williams said. "I don't care. There's no reason for a guy to have a gun like that."

... said a British general at Lexington.

18 posted on 08/04/2012 4:59:31 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: marktwain

The left wants everyone to only use public transportation. Transporting a firearm is illegal on most public transportation systems.

Can you see where this is going?


19 posted on 08/04/2012 5:00:07 AM PDT by wrench
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To: ronnie raygun

"Look at this guy, with his modern military-style rifle. There is no reason for a guy to have a gun like that." -- King George III

20 posted on 08/04/2012 5:13:15 AM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Roklok
Nobody in their right mind willingly lives in Philadelphia.

I wonder if that is why the city is predominately Democrat.

21 posted on 08/04/2012 5:16:23 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: bill1952

Anyone who refers to an AK-47 as “high powered” doesn’t know much about guns.

The real issue is out-of-control police & prosecutors. The Gestapo & KGB didn’t just one day spring up out of the ground.


22 posted on 08/04/2012 5:30:48 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: marktwain

I might be a bit uncomfortable getting on a train with a guy carrying an AK but I’d be miserable living in a city with Williams as the DA.


23 posted on 08/04/2012 5:51:02 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks marktwain.
"I don't care what the NRA says, they can kiss my butt," Williams said. "I don't care. There's no reason for a guy to have a gun like that."
There's no reason for the DA to drive a car like that. There's no reason for the DA to have a home like that. There's no reason for the DA to draw a salary like that.

There's no reason for the DA to have a job like that.


24 posted on 08/04/2012 6:02:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: marktwain
What is he charged with? I do not see any crime, unless Philadelphia has made it illegal to transport unloaded guns on public transport.

The law in many states prohibits a person from carrying a long gun in a vehicle unless the firearm and ammo are in separate compartments, one of which must be locked. I guess the subway car meets the definition of a vehicle -- at least according to the arresting LEO.

25 posted on 08/04/2012 6:19:51 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos; All
He is probably charged with carrying a firearm without a license:

“In Pennsylvania a License To Carry Firearms is only required to conceal a firearm, or to carry a firearm in a motor vehicle. The law is silent on the act of openly carrying a firearm while not in a vehicle making it de-facto legal. It must be noted however that due to 18 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (Carrying firearms on public streets or public property in Philadelphia) a License To Carry Firearms is required to carry a firearm in any manner on the streets or public property of a “City of the first class” (Philadelphia.)”

http://www.pafoa.org/law/

26 posted on 08/04/2012 6:48:44 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

More information, multiple sources (Note, there is now a useful website called “Newsfeed Researcher”, that puts on a single page the same story from different sources, so you can cross check them or find an alternative source to a copyrighted story.):

http://newsfeedresearcher.com/

“Inside the bag, in addition to the weapons, police say they found $700 (or $716) cash, seven containers (or “a bag”) of suspected marijuana and 22 (or 25, or 25 to 30) Percocet pills...a loaded handgun (.38 revolver) and a 12-inch bayonet or “hunting knife”.

“(A policeman or detective named Adorno) described the suspect as about 5-foot-10 with a full beard and tattoos on both arms. “He had a face on him, like he was up to no good,” he said. The man kept changing his stories, Adorno said. “At first he’s like, ‘What guns?’ “ Then he claimed to have just bought them, and then said he uses them at a shooting range.

“Records show Ponds has a prior weapons arrest for allegedly firing three shots at his ex-girlfriend in September 2011, then severely beating her. The charges were withdrawn after a witness failed to appear.

“(He) had carved and written his initials on both guns, apparently as proof of ownership.”


27 posted on 08/04/2012 7:24:21 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; All

“Inside the bag, in addition to the weapons, police say they found $700 (or $716) cash, seven containers (or “a bag”) of suspected marijuana and 22 (or 25, or 25 to 30) Percocet pills...a loaded handgun (.38 revolver) and a 12-inch bayonet or “hunting knife”.

“(A policeman or detective named Adorno) described the suspect as about 5-foot-10 with a full beard and tattoos on both arms. “He had a face on him, like he was up to no good,” he said. The man kept changing his stories, Adorno said. “At first he’s like, ‘What guns?’ “ Then he claimed to have just bought them, and then said he uses them at a shooting range.

“Records show Ponds has a prior weapons arrest for allegedly firing three shots at his ex-girlfriend in September 2011, then severely beating her. The charges were withdrawn after a witness failed to appear.

“(He) had carved and written his initials on both guns, apparently as proof of ownership.”

Good information. The weapons charges are just ancillary, it appears.


28 posted on 08/04/2012 7:35:36 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Ramcat
"I might be a bit uncomfortable getting on a train with a guy carrying an AK but I’d be miserable living in a city with Williams as the DA."

If you see a guy on a train carrying an AK-47, sit down by him and talk guns with him...

There's not much you can do with/for an ahole like DA Williams -- except kick him out at the next election.

29 posted on 08/04/2012 7:53:32 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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