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Mitt Romney Lavishes Praise On Israel's Socialist, Government Controlled Healthcare System
Forbes ^ | 30 July 2012 | Rick Ungar

Posted on 07/30/2012 9:43:55 PM PDT by moonshot925

Mitt Romney seems to be laboring under the impression that whatever he says in a foreign country will—like a weekend in Las Vegas—somehow stay in that foreign country.

Either that or he figures nobody back home is paying any attention.

Speaking today to a small group of Israeli contributors to his campaign, the GOP presidential candidate—and supposed sworn enemy of government controlled healthcare—had kind words for the success of Israel’s healthcare system.

"When our health care costs are completely out of control. Do you realize what health care spending is as a percentage of the GDP in Israel? 8 percent. You spend 8 percent of GDP on health care. And you’re a pretty healthy nation”

A healthy nation, indeed.

With a life-expectancy rate that is the 4th best in the world (the United States is 38th) and a reputation for delivering high-quality care to all of its citizens by utilizing the most advanced medical technology available in a hospital system we can only envy from afar, Governor Romney is right to be impressed with the Israelis’ ability to deliver excellent care while keeping spending down to 8 percent of GDP as compared to 18 percent here in the United States.

If only Romney’s appreciation of Israel’s success did not fly smack in the face of his constant, ideologically based rhetoric guaranteed to insure that only the wealthiest Americans get a taste of the healthcare Israelis receive as their birthright.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: heathcare; israel; romney; socialism; willard

1 posted on 07/30/2012 9:44:09 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

God help us!


2 posted on 07/30/2012 9:46:42 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: moonshot925

did you expect anything different from Mr RomneyCare?


3 posted on 07/30/2012 9:49:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: moonshot925

Ungar cuts to the bone again dang!


4 posted on 07/30/2012 9:51:32 PM PDT by Fred (http://www.obamanomicsoutsourced.com/)
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To: moonshot925

I bet many Freepers will like his comments, though. After all, it is the Israeli healthcare system.


5 posted on 07/30/2012 9:57:32 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Fred

How much in yearly aid does the US give Israel?


6 posted on 07/30/2012 10:04:27 PM PDT by yadent
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To: moonshot925

This is why I am doing a write in and refuse to donate money to the RNC. Let’s see his friends clean this mess up for him. Get a new candidate would be the answer.


7 posted on 07/30/2012 10:05:04 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: moonshot925

Didn’t he say he would get rid of the Obamacare.


8 posted on 07/30/2012 10:05:31 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: moonshot925
The truth is that Israel is a country that is very small. It has fewer inhabitants than most U.S. states and many U.S. Metro areas.

What they do with health care in a generally homogeneous society is significantly different and not replicable in a continental country of some 310 millions composed of every imaginable racial, ethnic and social background. That is why the drive for more centralization in health care in the U.S. is the exact wrong thing to do.

It should be a Sates issue, IN ALL RESPECTS. If Massachusetts wants some form of universal health care run by government fiat, great. If New Hampshire wants NO role for the government in the providing of insurance or health services, that should be the prerogative of the state and it's citizens through its’ elected officials.

People would vote with their feet and reside where they feal they have the best over all quality of life.

9 posted on 07/30/2012 10:19:03 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: dragonblustar

I cringed when I read this-—Can’t Romney keep his mouth shut. What did that accomplish beside losing votes back home.


10 posted on 07/30/2012 10:26:34 PM PDT by RightLady (Take out the trash the first Tues after the first Monday in Nov)
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To: yadent
How much in yearly aid does the US give Israel?

$3.075 billion Foreign Military Financing(FMF) program aid to Israel in FY 2012.

There are also about $500 million in private donationns to Israel every year.

11 posted on 07/30/2012 10:28:56 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

I wonder how Israel’s system would hold up if they suddenly had to provide free medical to ten million illegal immigrants from Palestine.


12 posted on 07/30/2012 10:34:59 PM PDT by Argus
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To: moonshot925
There are a lot of inaccuracies in this article. For example 25% of Israelis purchase private insurance because the system does not cover many expensive procedures. Also, the government is wanting to move to increased privatization because the existing system is running deficits. Dental is not included unless you buy that as an option. Preventative care is not covered.

Many items are true such as the total spent on healthcare in Israel as a percentage of GDP is about 1/2 of what it is in the US. Procedures are cheaper there and quality is high.

13 posted on 07/30/2012 10:39:28 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: moonshot925
Yawn.

Romney's comment was about the SPENDING in Israel on healthcare. It's significantly lower than ours.

14 posted on 07/30/2012 10:43:15 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: newzjunkey

He was spouting about a glorious soicalist health care system in a nation that can not be compared to American in any way, shape or form. He’s a freaking socialist. We will never get rid of deathcare with him.


15 posted on 07/30/2012 10:45:52 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: newzjunkey

Most on here will only read into an article what they want. He did praise their healthcare, but, only to the extent of how little it cost as compared to ours. Israel also has a significantly smaller population - as does most socialist countries which have universal healthcare.

However, this gives the haters on here another excuse to eat our candidate. Granted, I’m not in love with Romney, and he sure wasn’t my choice for the nomination - but, we’re stuck with him - and I’d vote for my dog for president over zero.


16 posted on 07/30/2012 10:48:36 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Jim from C-Town
You're exactly right and that's why the whole article and most arguments from the Left on the topic are a sham.

The scale is so vastly different as to be incomparable.

17 posted on 07/30/2012 10:50:33 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: Catsrus

Absolutely. The circular firing squad from the primary season has only reloaded for the general.


18 posted on 07/30/2012 10:51:59 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: moonshot925
Mitt Romney Lavishes Praise On Israel's Socialist, Government Controlled Healthcare System

Yes, yes, but did he get the name of their capital correct?

19 posted on 07/30/2012 11:05:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Gabrial; newzjunkey; SaraJohnson; dragnet2
Yawn. Romney's comment was about the SPENDING in Israel on healthcare. It's significantly lower than ours.

Yes. Israel spends 8% of GDP on heathcare while we spend over 15%.

They have a longer average life span and lower infant mortality rate than we do.

Their system seems to be working well for them.

But the question is, would it work for the United States?

Hard to tell since we are two vastly different nations.

20 posted on 07/30/2012 11:09:00 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

So, if Israel spends 8% of it’s GDP on healthcare and their yearly GDP is aprox. 243 billion (2011) then they are spending about 19-20 billion per year on medical care. The US is subsidizing about 16-17% of Israel’s healthcare.(That 3.1 billion would have to come out of Israel’s pocket if we didn’t give it). Also what is the amount of importation of pharmaceuticals and medical devices into Israel from the US and at what price? Is it similar to the deal most European countries get where the US citizen pays via cost-shifting the low cost of said drugs and devices to said countries?


21 posted on 07/30/2012 11:11:45 PM PDT by yadent
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To: freekitty
Didn’t he say he would get rid of the Obamacare.

Yes, but his surrogates, including Pam Bondi have stated publicly that there are certain parts of ObamaCare that they would like to keep and that they would be only too happy to replace it with some sort of RomneyCare in all 50 states.
22 posted on 07/30/2012 11:28:34 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: newzjunkey

Yep and it’s MITTEN’S and the GOPe,who are using that “Circular firing squad” to shoot at Sarah Palin and Tea Party Conservatives.


23 posted on 07/31/2012 12:45:33 AM PDT by mark1973
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To: moonshot925

In 2009, I was in a Tel Aviv hospital and it was not all it’s cracked up to be. Particularly, the totally indifferent staff. A nurse accidentally missed my vein for the saline solution and my arm blew up like Popeye’s. It took about 8 hours for someone to recognized their was a problem (after I kept telling people there was). I got more attention from the hospital liason to the insurance company (she wanted to make sure I could pay).


24 posted on 07/31/2012 1:06:35 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Fred

This is how Unger describes himself:

Rick Ungar, Contributor
Writing from the left on politics and policy.

So when did FR become so enamored of critics on the left?


25 posted on 07/31/2012 1:19:21 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: woofie
Rick Ungar, Contributor
Writing from the left on politics and policy.

So when did FR become so enamored of critics on the left?

Rhetorical Question?

26 posted on 07/31/2012 1:37:46 AM PDT by sockmonkey (She could never be a saint, but she thought she could be a martyr if they killed her quick)
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>> With a life-expectancy rate that is the 4th best in the world

Irrelevant. Conveniently omitted is the fact that the collective genetic makeup of the US population is far different from that of Israel, not to mention the deviation in environment, workforce, food, etc.

Regarding HMO choices, how many options exist for the citizens of a given state? 2, 3, 5?

We’re flattered by the Israeli chicks that reveal their obligatory military service bikini clad, but are aghast at the thought of similar obligations concerning health care...

Let’s cut the crap. Israel is not the U.S. Comparative judgement is asinine.


27 posted on 07/31/2012 1:43:26 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: moonshot925

This guy is amazing. The way he double talks never ends. If he keeps this up, we will be stuck with the Marxist Muslim for the next four years.

There must be a powerful cadre of leftists who helped kill the conservative contenders and put this guy in the running to assure their agenda is promulgated regardless of who wins.


28 posted on 07/31/2012 3:23:10 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: moonshot925

It’s amazing to watch the new generation fret over the staggering cost of health care.

If they could only go back in time with us older people who remember when health care WAS AFFORDABLE before the days of the “deep pocket” health insurance companies.

Gee! I can’t imagine how it was affordable BEFORE health insurance but out of control AFTER the health insurance companies (with their deep pockets thanks to you and I) created a cornucopia of endless medical charges for the medical industry to feast upon.

The two laws of business were thrown out of whack by the insurance industry: “The laws of supply and demand” and “whatever the market will bear.” With insurance, there is no longer any market forces in place.


29 posted on 07/31/2012 7:17:00 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: moonshot925
I love how people twist themselves into knots making excuse after excuse for Romney.

My days of voting for these political insiders and private party club members are way over.

30 posted on 07/31/2012 8:02:59 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: moonshot925
The biggest difference of all between the two systems is that in the US those that can pay end up paying for those that can't/won't pay. In Israel it is mandatory that you pay in to the system, even if you don't have a job. In the US, fees for healthcare end up getting raised to cover the costs for those that don't pay their bills.

Israel does not have the problem of tens of millions of illegal people in their country because they are concerned about people trying to kill them so they actually enforce their borders.

31 posted on 07/31/2012 8:16:12 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: moonshot925

Nothing better than a white obama!!!

Romney is a lying socialist to the core!!!


32 posted on 07/31/2012 8:25:27 AM PDT by dalereed
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