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Scalia stuns Identity Conservatives: says guns can be regulated
Examiner ^ | 07/29/2012 | KEVIN KERVICK

Posted on 07/29/2012 5:03:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

In a shocking statement made this morning on FOX News Sunday with Chris Wallace, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said he believes the U.S. Constitution allows states to regulate firearms. In a response to a question about the Second Amendment from Wallace, Scalia said the following:

... there were legal precedents from the days of the Founding Fathers that banned some weapons. There were also "locational limitations" on where weapons could be carried. --They had some limitations on the nature of arms that could be borne.

This statement will be perceived as a bolt of lightning in conservative circles and it will be received as a breath of fresh air to those that seek common sense gun standards. If one of the most conservative people in the land, Antonin Scalia, believes the 2nd Amendment allows for gun limitations, it will be difficult for gun fundamentalists to continue to make their case that gun ownership is absolute and not subject to any control by government authorities.

This has been a high visibility issue in New Hampshire because this state has very liberal open carry provisions. During the recent term, several legislators routinely carried their firearms openly in the State House. Additionally, those open carry provisions have come under scrutiny because members of various liberty groups have been quite vocal about their open carry gun rights at any venue, much to the chagrin of gun control advocates who want some open carry and concealed carry restrictions. A group of collaborators were recently kicked out of an Occupy Wall Street assembly in New Hampshire in part because they were carrying guns openly.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; scalia; scaliaguns; scotus; secondamendment
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To: SeekAndFind

All I can say is that WE THE PEOPLE need to take our country back!!!!!!!


41 posted on 07/29/2012 6:03:54 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: onyx
WAS THIS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT???

Like obama says when he doesn't like something that is said he said...lol at myself as I type...

this whole damn bunch makes me laugh..glad I'm old and the years ahead are not as many as have passed~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Carole

42 posted on 07/29/2012 6:05:47 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep on upgrading Congress at every election turning over Rinos and Dems to keep them in check. I think there’s a good chance we get 12 to 20 extra seats in the House and a fairly good shot at getting 60 seats in the Senate.


43 posted on 07/29/2012 6:11:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: SeekAndFind
And did not Christ warn us all those many years ago about those that sit in the seat of Moses. Perversion is the theme of these days. The ‘state’ is god.
44 posted on 07/29/2012 6:11:39 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Paladin2

Indeed Scalia is right, none of the first 10 amendments so the Federal Constitution were ever intended to restrict our States.

We have State Constitution’s for that propose, and most free State Constitutions garrentee the right to keep and bare arms.

WE HAVE NO NEED FOR WASHINGTON TO TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH OUR OWN STATE!


45 posted on 07/29/2012 6:14:11 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: reasonisfaith
common sense gun standards

is liberal speak for complete prohibition of gun ownership by anyone other than government operatives.

46 posted on 07/29/2012 6:15:34 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: haircutter
WAS THIS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT???

I don't know. I haven't yet watched the video.

LOL @ your comments. Thank you!!! I'm in your same boat.

47 posted on 07/29/2012 6:15:57 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: SeekAndFind

Increase in gun/ammo purchases in 5..4...3...


48 posted on 07/29/2012 6:18:51 PM PDT by matt04
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To: GeronL
as can speech, thought, religion and everything else.

Exactly! I would love for him to defend a state's right to establish an official religion - much as Maryland was once officially Catholic. I mean, either you believe in state's rights or your a selective and hypocritical douchebag - and I assume he's not one of those.

49 posted on 07/29/2012 6:21:35 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: Nifster

I think you are avoiding the bigger picture here. Scalia just handed the libs a club, and they are going to use to great effect for the next 20 plus years. Scalia must be about to retire, so he’s worried about all of the nasty books that are going to be written about him. Even if he believes what he is saying, why say it? Unless you have jumped ship and now believe all of the liberal hype that something MUST be done?


50 posted on 07/29/2012 6:22:34 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Um . . . yeah. 'Cause the "Bill of Rights" limit the federal government only. Technically under the Bill of Rights a state may have an official state religion, curtail freedom of speech, or regulate guns.

Consistency, people. Let's let the Left be the hypocrites.

51 posted on 07/29/2012 6:24:15 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Scary guns... Aren’t they exactly the type of guns that the 2nd Amendment was supposed to protect? Why is Scalia ruling on ANY of these issues if the 2nd Amendment doesn’t apply to the States? The Supreme Court has lost its collective mind.


52 posted on 07/29/2012 6:25:56 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: GreyFriar

Well, Switzerland (at least some of the cantons) allows a citizen to buy artillery, like howitsers, and they’re on mil surplus sales. But swiss rules are under socialist attack too.


53 posted on 07/29/2012 6:31:35 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: SeekAndFind
Don”t wet yourselves.

State Governments having basic police powers to regulate arms, i.e, heavy weapons, artillery, is nothing new.

Banning shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles does not infringe upon the right to keep and arms.

Banning citizens of the possession from owning semi-auto firearms and detachable magazines greater than 10 rounds does infringe upon the right to keep and bear arms.

54 posted on 07/29/2012 6:32:02 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: GreyFriar

You are correct. He spoke of “bearing arms” which means something that can be held. That being said, a SAM, while it can be held, can also reasonably be regulated.


55 posted on 07/29/2012 6:32:22 PM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: Nifster
I heard him also and I agree with you completely! He was being careful not to make an absolute pronouncement one way or the other because it is not possible for him to know exactly what will come before the court. IMO, we would be fortunate indeed to have eight other judges just like him!
56 posted on 07/29/2012 6:34:24 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: GreyFriar

Agreed. He did not make any sort of alarming statement. His statement got my attention because I knew some would overreact....and of course our opponents might seize on it. He was simply saying there is clear precident of limitations, and specifically referenced state level limitations. We cannot own nuclear weapons, for example. He also was careful not to pre-judge any future cases by not taking a position that nothing can be limited. No concerns here.


57 posted on 07/29/2012 6:46:39 PM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: LibLieSlayer

All leftist thought, from the limousine liberalism of a George Clooney to the murderous horrors of Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot, is of and from Satan. Leftism is a contaminant in the human cognosphere, not a natural component of it.

Satan is smarter than we are, and he never sleeps. Those over whom he has the most influence are like maniacally evil energizer demons.

Every once in a while one of them escapes, like David Horowitz, but who knows how or why?


58 posted on 07/29/2012 6:59:16 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: waynesa98
Thank you!--and I agree. I listened to him, and he did not rush to say guns SHOULD be controlled; he said the issue could always be brought up and discussed, and that even the Founders had some controls--i.e. muskets, hand guns--yes!--cannons, no!

I will take 3 more Scalias and 3 more Thomases, and keep Alito.

vaudine

59 posted on 07/29/2012 7:19:59 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: SeekAndFind

Then we have to make sure that the laws are never passed.


60 posted on 07/29/2012 7:23:46 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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