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To: metmom
Wintertime did and you blew it off as being biased. Make up your mind, will you? Get off your high horse. You won't believe the studies because you don't want to, as you've already demonstrated.

I hope that this is not the attitude you take with your children when they point out an error you make.

Let me show you why his study is not valid.

It would be the exact same thing if the DNC hired Debbie Wasserman Schultz to poll it's members to see who is the favored candidate Obama or Romney.

For the record I am an Engineer and retired after 20+ years in the military. When I requested information on troop strength, location, and fortification, I needed accurate information. I didn't want my analysts telling me something they thought I wanted to hear. Mr. Wintertime's study tells home schoolers what they want to hear.

215 posted on 08/12/2012 4:27:43 AM PDT by Hope for the Republic (The 1st amendment is guaranteed by the 2nd amendment.)
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To: Hope for the Republic; wintertime; JenB; BobL; netmilsmom

If the study is not valid, you need to show it with another study demonstrating so. Your rationale as to why it is not valid is not in itself valid.

Please provide the hard empirical evidence to contradict the findings of the study wintertime provided.


216 posted on 08/12/2012 5:44:10 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Hope for the Republic

Wait a minute. You said, to give you a study and it was given to you

>>http://www.hslda.org/research/ray2003/Socialization.asp

This “study” you posted does not really hold much water.<<

Back that statement up with facts, not opinions. Where are your citations?


217 posted on 08/12/2012 6:31:47 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Hope for the Republic; metmom

You miss one critical point, Mr. Hope.

Homeschoolers aren’t the ones who have something to prove. If homeschooling is completely ineffective, the only people affected are homeschoolers and their children. However, if the government system is broken, all taxpayers are being forced, on penalty of losing their homes, going to jail, or other penalties, to fund a broken system.

I think I saw you mention that one of your problems with the methodology on the study was that about 60% of the surveyed responders were homeschoolers whereas we make up closer to 4% of the population. That’s actually not a problem. We aren’t comparing the groups in a way that requires statistical representation. What we’re comparing is outcomes, and for that, we want percentages of the discrete populations. That is, if we compare homeschool versus government school graduates for “percent who become felons”, we don’t have to first ensure proper statistical distribution. If we were trying to determine “raw number of homeschoolers versus public schoolers who become felons”, then we might care about the distribution.

http://www.hslda.org/research/ray2003/HomeschoolingGrowsUp.pdf - this is from the HSLDA and so you probably rejected it (or is this the same study wintertime already posted?) but it’s pretty good, I’d say.


218 posted on 08/12/2012 7:55:39 AM PDT by JenB
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