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Oregon Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail -- for Collecting Rainwater on His Property
CNS News ^ | 7-26-2012 | Kendra Alleyne

Posted on 07/27/2012 7:53:06 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

A rural Oregon man was sentenced Wednesday to 30 days in jail and over $1,500 in fines because he had three reservoirs on his property to collect and use rainwater.

Gary Harrington of Eagle Point, Ore., says he plans to appeal his conviction in Jackson County (Ore.) Circuit Court on nine misdemeanor charges under a 1925 law for having what state water managers called “three illegal reservoirs” on his property – and for filling the reservoirs with rainwater and snow runoff.

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1 posted on 07/27/2012 7:53:11 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

“According to Oregon water laws, all water is publicly owned. Therefore, anyone who wants to store any type of water on their property must first obtain a permit from state water managers.”

There, water thief!


2 posted on 07/27/2012 7:54:33 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

California liberals moved into Oregon many years ago. It’s a do as I say state now.


3 posted on 07/27/2012 7:55:36 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Insanity!


4 posted on 07/27/2012 7:56:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Want to surprise and piss yourself off? Just go to your county or city codes and see how many restrictions are on what you can do with your own property.
Dig down into them, you will be angered.


5 posted on 07/27/2012 7:57:58 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: Sir Napsalot

What the FLUKE!!!

Somedays I stand back and look and can’t believe this is America anymore!!


6 posted on 07/27/2012 7:58:28 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Sir Napsalot
someone in gummint needs an attitude adjustment.
7 posted on 07/27/2012 7:58:32 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

A taste of how it will be across the whole country if the EPA gets its way and removes the word “navigable” from the Clean Water Act.

The federal government will control every small pond on every rural property in the entire nation. Under threat of crippling fines and jail time, you’ll be able to do NOTHING to ANY body of water, ditch, creek, on your property without the approval of the Feds.

Just reason number 4,137 that Barack Obama and his agents of evil MUST be defeated in November.


8 posted on 07/27/2012 7:59:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

UN Agenda 21.


9 posted on 07/27/2012 7:59:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

My understanding is that laws of that nature are pretty common out West. Not so much east of the Mississippi.


10 posted on 07/27/2012 8:01:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: WILLIALAL

Many jurisdictions have criminalized zoning ordinances.


11 posted on 07/27/2012 8:01:39 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RC2

I think Colorado has this water law also.
An acquaintance is constantly fretting about rain falling into any receptacle because of fines.

I don’t know if she’s “one of them” or there truly is such a law there.


12 posted on 07/27/2012 8:01:53 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: RC2

>>> California liberals moved into Oregon many years ago. It’s a do as I say state now. <<<

Apparently 1925.


13 posted on 07/27/2012 8:02:21 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Sir Napsalot

commie water take over..we have the same problem here but it has to be inground water. small ponds, ect...wonder what they do about swimming pools?


14 posted on 07/27/2012 8:04:11 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Sir Napsalot

Washington state too. I tell my new neighbors here in KY that you have to get a permit to save rain water in Seattle and the stares of disbelief are comical.

Out here many of my neighbors have ponds on their property. No small number are stocked with catfish. Watering your garden is pretty cheap here.

And this is one of the reasons I left the Seattle hell hole.


15 posted on 07/27/2012 8:04:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Does no one there have backyard swimming pools? Blow-up wading pools for the toddlers? Does rain ever fall in them? Are those people jailed? Just wondrin’.


16 posted on 07/27/2012 8:05:30 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Sir Napsalot

“But Tom Paul, administrator of the Oregon Water Resources Department, claims that Harrington has been violating the state’s water use law by diverting water from streams running into the Big Butte River.”
also,”Yet Paul admitted the 1925 law does apply because, he said, Harrington constructed dams to block a tributary to the Big Butte, which Medford uses for its water supply.”

This is not clear cut at all.


17 posted on 07/27/2012 8:06:00 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Does no one there have backyard swimming pools? Blow-up wading pools for the toddlers? Does rain ever fall in them? Are those people jailed? Just wondrin’.


18 posted on 07/27/2012 8:06:18 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Sir Napsalot
A crazy but not an uncommon law, especially in the western states. I've not heard anyone going to jail for breaking one like this guy did. Freaking waternazis.

Here they tax you for your runoff water. The more concrete driveway, sidewalk, patio, etc. that prevents water from soaking in, the higher "Stormwater charge" you pay.

19 posted on 07/27/2012 8:06:18 AM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happening to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Creeping collectivism - rain on your property belongs to the public.

Liberty fades away.


20 posted on 07/27/2012 8:06:59 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Sir Napsalot
How can officials from the gubmint arbitrarily cancel the issued permit without just cause?

When "Little People" tried to fight back? So they can say "Because We Can"?

21 posted on 07/27/2012 8:07:18 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The real tragedy is not that the law exists. There are all sorts of old goofy laws on books. In some states or towns it is STILL illegal to drive a car through town without someone walking in front of you with a red lantern warning people of your approach.

The tragedy is that some numbskull actually enforced it.


22 posted on 07/27/2012 8:07:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

If you are storing runoff upstream, that means that a property owner down stream is not getting water, or not getting enough. I don’t see this law as unreasonable, since it is an attempt to balance the needs of all property owners within the watershed area. Nothing promotes animosity among neighboring landowners like a fight over water.


23 posted on 07/27/2012 8:09:06 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: Sir Napsalot

This is the type of conviction that the jury system was designed to prevent. Just a simple “Not Guilty!” should have remedied this whole situation.


24 posted on 07/27/2012 8:09:06 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: NEMDF

Overheard in prison:
“Whaddya in for?”
“Caught a snowflake on my tongue.”


25 posted on 07/27/2012 8:09:09 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (I didn't write this by myself. Obama helped me. Everyone helped me.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

—When “Little People” tried to fight back?—

Makes me think of the King county sheriff’s office in Maple valley. A few years back someone got into their enclosed parking lot and slashed the tires on all the cop cars.


26 posted on 07/27/2012 8:11:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

“And this is one of the reasons I left the Seattle hell hole.

I loved Eastern Washington, I just couldn’t get right with the government or people. Way too much like the other two Western border states. Much to offer, but it would take real hope and change before I would submit”.


27 posted on 07/27/2012 8:12:07 AM PDT by wita
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To: Salvation

Oregon ping...


28 posted on 07/27/2012 8:12:11 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

***I don’t know if she’s “one of them” or there truly is such a law there.***

I believe there is an water rights agreement with Kansas that rain is to fall unhindered so the run off can be used for Kansas agriculture.

I found that this is why you can still buy large acre tracts of land cheap in Colorado because there is no water rights there.


29 posted on 07/27/2012 8:13:21 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Sir Napsalot

30 posted on 07/27/2012 8:15:02 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: WILLIALAL

Essentially, without permission from the masters, all one can do to or on one’s property is pay the taxes on it.


31 posted on 07/27/2012 8:17:19 AM PDT by sport
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To: HerrBlucher
If you are storing runoff upstream, that means that a property owner down stream is not getting water, or not getting enough. I don’t see this law as unreasonable, since it is an attempt to balance the needs of all property owners within the watershed area. Nothing promotes animosity among neighboring landowners like a fight over water.

There is always another side of the story and you just pointed this out.

That is the problem with these blog post you only hear one side of the story...and as Rush always say's it's not what they tell you but what they DON'T tell you that is more important.

32 posted on 07/27/2012 8:18:03 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (Bigamy: Having at least one wife too many. Monogamy: Definitely having one wife too many.)
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To: GBA

OH, yeah....the same CITIES whose City PLANNERS design communities of primarily CONCRETE, cramming small lots together to build houses on, then TAX us because the water runs onto the streets...


33 posted on 07/27/2012 8:18:03 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

What a fked up state !


34 posted on 07/27/2012 8:20:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: HerrBlucher

OK. The point is well taken.

But sentenced to 30 days in jail for collecting rain water is justified?


35 posted on 07/27/2012 8:20:56 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

And what does God say about this silly Oregon law?


36 posted on 07/27/2012 8:21:40 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Once the smoke clears and people see the wreckage, it will become obvious that the only way out of this mess is to round up liberals for imprisonment or deportation.


37 posted on 07/27/2012 8:23:29 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: RC2
...charges under a 1925 law ...

California liberals moved into Oregon many years ago.

That far back?..........

38 posted on 07/27/2012 8:24:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Thorliveshere
Somedays I stand back and look and can’t believe this is America anymore!!

Was it ever?

39 posted on 07/27/2012 8:26:07 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Sir Napsalot

I guess if one takes a leak in the backyard it becomes state owned urine.


40 posted on 07/27/2012 8:26:15 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
But sentenced to 30 days in jail for collecting rain water is justified?

This is not his first offense...he was already on probation and opened up the gates the first time. He then reclosed the gates again whole under court order not to do so..

I suspect this has been going on for a while and did not just come out of the blue.

There is probably a lot to this story we don't know.

41 posted on 07/27/2012 8:26:53 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (Bigamy: Having at least one wife too many. Monogamy: Definitely having one wife too many.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Can’t do that in Colorado.


42 posted on 07/27/2012 8:28:52 AM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 82)
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To: HerrBlucher

Other neighbors don’t have an inherent right to water that falls on your property.


43 posted on 07/27/2012 8:31:42 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Some people have a very high tolerance for what they will be fined and incarcerated for doing - on their own private property.


44 posted on 07/27/2012 8:33:50 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Oregon Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail -- for Collecting Rainwater on His Property

It ain't easy being GREEN (even in an enviro whacko state).

45 posted on 07/27/2012 8:35:37 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: wiggen
This is not clear cut at all.

It appears that this is the case. He may have constructed dams on streams that ran THROUGH his property and not entirely ON his property.

46 posted on 07/27/2012 8:35:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Other neighbors don’t have an inherent right to water that falls on your property.

Water rights are far more complicated than that.

47 posted on 07/27/2012 8:44:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
All your water are belong to us!

Pay up sucka.

48 posted on 07/27/2012 8:47:39 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Secret Agent Man
Other neighbors don’t have an inherent right to water that falls on your property.

You don't have 3 large reservoirs due to rainfall.

I would bet there was streams that ran through his property that he damned up and the neighbors lost their source of water or their supply was vastly diminished.

as the article said this law was in place since 1925 and this was the first time it was enforced.

49 posted on 07/27/2012 8:51:54 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (Bigamy: Having at least one wife too many. Monogamy: Definitely having one wife too many.)
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To: Red Badger; RC2

Doesn’t matter if it were a 1000 years ago, CA would still get the blame for any states problems.

CA is the only state that has liberals, makes liberals, trains liberals, etc.

Then we send those liberals to other states for the sole purpose of polluting them with liberal ideas.

It couldn’t possibly be that the CA liberals came here from other states and are simply returning to their place of origin after $hitting in their bed here.


50 posted on 07/27/2012 8:53:51 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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