DOJ: Family Can't Run Their Business as Catholics

Townhall.com ^ | July 25, 2012 | Terry Jeffrey

[Alberta's Child]

Actually, you have the 1960s history regarding civil rights all wrong. The Federal statute really wasn't aimed at forcing private businesses to treat blacks and whites equally, though that was surely an intended consequence. The real issue was that many states had laws that required private business owners to treat blacks and whites separately -- which is a whole different story.

[JCBreckenridge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI

Romney’s a lying sack of shit who will say whatever he has to in order to get elected.

[allmendream]

Or how about a Christian Scientist business owner who buys an insurance policy for his employees that will only cover prayer for medical conditions?

Why the hell does an employer have to provide health insurance anyway? It is a perk that should be up to the employee and the employer to work out without government mandates that force part time work or contractor status on people.

[JCBreckenridge]

“I wonder how the author would react to the Jehovah’s Witness business owner who buys an insurance policy for his employees that won’t cover blood transfusions.”

It’s still an employee benefit. What’s wrong with an employer choosing to voluntarily go above and beyond what they are required to do?

[JCBreckenridge]

“Soon they’ll make the same argument about marrying gays. Priests, reverends and rabbis will HAVE to.”

That is what they do up in Canada.

[DannyTN]

"Romney has said that he is now pro-life
Romney will say anything to get elected. He's Mr. Etch-a-sketch.

(Reagan came around and was a staunch pro-life believer after following Holloyweird and being for abortions).
Romney is not Reagan. Reagan was sincere in his beliefs and didn't hesitate to articulate them. Romney waits till the polls are in, and says one thing and does another. Romney's actions speak louder than his words.

Romney would never legislate the same as 0bama and force people who have beliefs to go against those beliefs in a mandate similar to 0bamacare.
Except he did. Romneycare did just that attempted to force Catholic hospitals to do abortions.
Romneycare Required Anti-Catholic Regulations Like Obamacare's

0bama is dangerous as he wants to transform this country into a socialist utopia.
Romney wants the same thing. Romney's father said we should listen to Alinsky. Romney did the model for big government healthcare. Romney was in favor of mandates. Romney didn't know a republican before he ran as a republican.
Romney is also dangerous in that Mormons are seeking control of the government. Mormon bishop's daughter spills Romney's 'secrets' ...

There's not a choice this time. I'm voting third party.

[DBeers]

This article claims that the personal religious beliefs of the owners of a completely secular business should receive similar privilege. While perhaps a valid position, it is certainly an expansion of the issue.

Actually no, you got it backwards and seem to buy into the false premise the left pushes.

The supposed expansion is actually a God given Constitutionally guaranteed individual right (religious liberty) -a right that naturally extends to control of property e,g business...

It is the government overlords that suggest ONLY government recognized religious organizations get exemption. In essence the government is attempting to limit religious freedom...

[Last Dakotan]

What has been telling is how quiet the Catholic Bishops have been on the employer mandate - so long as it is not directly put upon them.

[firebasecody]

So, I can request a bacon, egg and cheese sandwhich at the local halal grocery now?

[firebasecody]

So, I can request a bacon, egg and cheese sandwhich at the local halal grocery now?

[billys kid]

You’re joking right? Willard Romney forced Catholic hospitals to provide morning after pills to rape victims. Knowing full well that that the Catholic Church does not believe in abortion, contraception and sterlization.
He also forced Catholic Charities to shut down their adoption agency because the Catholic Church does not believe in homosexual adoption.

Like Obama, Romney’s God is the State.
Freedom of conscience, my arse!

Willard is a liar and a deceiver just like his...

[firebasecody]

yeah, and a sandwich too!

[oldfart]

Rev.Martin Niemoller, (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp]
“In Germany, they first came for the communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Catholic. Then they came for me and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.”

Who will speak for you?

[Talisker]

"It is well established that a corporation and its owners are wholly separate entities, and the Court should not permit the Newlands to eliminate that legal separation to impose their personal religious beliefs on the corporate entity or its employees," said the Justice Department.

Jurisdictional differences: persons vs. corporations. The Justice Department is basing it's entire prosecution on that difference. Shouldn't you understand exactly why that is so important concerning Obamacare?

Then please - please - read and learn what this fight is really all about:

How Chief Justice Roberts Saved America

[Pollster1]

This article claims that the personal religious beliefs of the owners of a completely secular business should receive similar privilege. While perhaps a valid position, it is certainly an expansion of the issue. I wonder how the author would react to the Jehovah’s Witness business owner who buys an insurance policy for his employees that won’t cover blood transfusions.

I will be disappointed (not for the first time) if the free exercise of religion is restricted in what used to be the United States of America. If a JW wants to offer a limited health plan, I don't see why that is the government's business. Private individuals can choose whether to work there or elsewhere. If a Catholic individual refuses to participate in murdering innocent babies (which is exactly how the Church and many Catholics view abortion), attempting to compel that individual to pay for a gravely evil act is a disgusting overreach by a government that has chosen evil both in the particulars of compelling abortion and more generally in violating the God-given rights of those who used to be free citizens of a free country.

This command from HHS is shockingly arrogant, inherently un-American, and evil. If this leads to unrest, I will not be on the side of those who not only support the killing of innocent unborn children but also attempt to force others to participate in that crime against the innocent. The only answer is to repeal ObamaCare and replace it with a free market solution. Socialized medicine can only lead to higher costs for worse service and a dramatic slowdown in the rate of medical advancements. Socialized medicine can only lead to arrogant commands like this one, in which an amoral bureaucrat issues decrees without regard to the needs, desires, and values of individual subjects of our Dear Leader.

[ripley]

“Half of Christians will vote for Obama anyway.”

ONe can include lots and lots of Catholics in that;
lots of ‘em.

IMHO

[gidget7]

I have been saying for several years that ALL churches should issue edicts that they do not perform civil marriage ceremonies. Churches conduct only ceremonies of Holy Matrimony. Same sex coupling is not holy, what can the govt say about that? Nothing! Catholic Churches do not perform ceremonies for non catholic couples, what is the difference? Seem to me if they7 want to take a stand before they are forced to, that would be the way to go.

[livius]

The way he’ll really get at the Catholic Church and other Christians in his second term is “gay marriage,” which he will try to force all churches to perform. In the case of the Catholic Church, he’ll also go for discrimination because the Church doesn’t ordain women.

Count on it.

All the property that he seizes will probably go to the Episcopalians...or possibly to churches that are members of the WCC.

[History Repeats]

So does anyone not believe that their is a war on religion?

Especially the Catholic religion?

[SaraJohnson]

When it comes to this extreme violation of my own ethics, I will disobey the State pig. I will keep doing my business until they put me in jail and when I get out of jail, I will continue to conduct my business in accordance with my own ethics. They can arrest me again and put me in jail again and when I get out... until I die. So help me God.