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Shocking video shows extent of pig abuse at farm supplying pork to Walmart
dailymail ^ | PUBLISHED: 15:55 EST, 20 July 2012 | UPDATED: 16:39 EST, 20 July 2012 Read more: http://www.dailym | By RACHEL QUIGLEY

Posted on 07/20/2012 8:22:30 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U

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To: TribalPrincess2U
Yes, Yes it is very shocking and it is wrong.

However, how many of the people who will be shocked about this have NO problem with the dismemberment and murder of a children in the womb and will rail against people who speak against people like Obama who never opened his large yap while a member of the Illinois Senate except to call for POST birth infanticide.

So, I do not agree with pigs being treated poorly, but they ARE animals raised and slaughtered for meat. They are not people, they are not human. In this country it is absolutely legal to kill a human being with a distinct and unique genetics makeup at ANYTIME prior to birth.

41 posted on 07/20/2012 9:25:04 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: brytlea

Now that you mention it, I think I have read about that. Life is a very cruel and tough thing. I am afraid many Americans today would starve to death if they were forced to fend for themselves in the real world. And I mean that quite sincerely.

You would be spot on correct, Sir!


42 posted on 07/20/2012 9:25:36 PM PDT by coldbluesteel (Endo)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

They are not raised and slaughtered just for profit. They are sold so people can be fed also. And there is nothing wrong with profit. Without profit, you would not have a job or be able to pay your bills.

All this is about is Wal-Mart is not unionized. You think Wal-Mart is the only buyer of these pigs? My guess is there are other buyers who are union companies and you are not saying anything about them.


43 posted on 07/20/2012 9:29:49 PM PDT by Ecliptic (.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“Get a life people. Be thankful for the food supply we have. They way things are going you might experience some REAL HUNGER, but then you wouldn’t be complaining.”

I’m with you. It’s only baby steps from getting worked up about this, to getting worked up about watching an execution, to getting worked up about putting someone in jail for 30 years, to putting someone in jail at all for rape.

It’s time people TOUGHEN UP a bit and stopped getting pulled by the nose in these emotional stories.


44 posted on 07/20/2012 9:32:09 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Mr Rogers

The same people who cry about the way food animals are treated demand that we all subject our pets to major surgery that removes their hormone systems and would like to do it by force of law. I do not understand Animal Rights Activists.


45 posted on 07/20/2012 9:32:23 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: coldbluesteel
I am afraid many Americans today would starve to death if they were forced to fend for themselves in the real world.

Most wouldn't last 48 hours. We are so dependent on technology, we have no idea how to cope if power went out for any extended period of time, say like during the Blackout of 1977. I remember growing up, we had 4-H Clubs, were kids could get exposed to the basics of farming and agriculture. Do they even have those anymore?

46 posted on 07/20/2012 9:33:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Ecliptic

The tails are cut off so other pigs won’t bite them off and start fights.


47 posted on 07/20/2012 9:37:32 PM PDT by Ecliptic (.)
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To: newnhdad

ping


48 posted on 07/20/2012 9:39:19 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: dfwgator

When I lived in East TX (a short 9 years ago) they still had 4-H because my friend’s daughter had rabbits and chickens she showed (and we went and walked around to have a look see). I’m sure they still do it in places like that. But yeah, most people wouldn’t have a clue. On the other hand, I think I can make do.

When we had Wilma, we didn’t have electricity for about 2 weeks. Most of our neighbors headed north to stay in motels or with family etc. We stayed and *camped*. It was no big deal, we had our grill and plenty of canned goods and batteries. I admit I was glad when things got back to normal, but it was much better than it could have been.


49 posted on 07/20/2012 9:40:17 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: dfwgator

hehe

Yes, there is still 4H and FFA. 4H is under the auspices of state universities and is unbelievably politically correct. FFA no longer even uses the term ‘Farmers’.


50 posted on 07/20/2012 9:41:47 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Since the subject of animal husbandry has been broached; I’ve a word of wisdom for all pet owners who like to refer to their pets as “family” and put the animal kingdom on the same level or above mankind. While you watch your Chef Michael commercials about the lovely natural meats and pristine veggies that supposedly make up your pet’s food; I’m looking at some of the actual ingredients lying in my farm gate that have been waiting for pickup for well over a hot, steamy week.(dead cow). Other goodies are no doubt waiting by the barrel at the local humane shelter since the last euthenasia day. Chef Michael is nowhere to be seen. I don’t like to be cruel and I know your sensibilities are delicate but get real!

The link below may be of interest to you and give you something to campaign against besides OUR food supply.

http://rense.com/general70/dead.htm


51 posted on 07/20/2012 9:42:09 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Propaganda; disappointed that you are falling for this and posting on a conservative website. Most people know nothing about farming and will respond to this emotional propaganda.
The object of these people is to get rid of ALL animal agriculture.
I grew up on a farm raising pigs and farmed myself for awhile raising pigs. Here are some facts. Baby pigs are born into litters of 9 to 12. They grow very fast and compete with each other for mama’s milk; they jostle and push each other. To keep them safe; they are in a farrowing stall with their 350 pound mother; the pigs weigh a pound or two at birth. The sow isn’t allowed to turn around; as she could easily crush the little ones.
At about day 2 or 3; I used to do some things to the pigs for their safety and health.
Clip their tails off. Pigs are chewers, and will chew each others tails as the grow to market weight.
Clip their needle teeth. These are sharp teeth on the sides of the mouth that protrude slightly. If those teeth are not clipped; you will see the litter of pigs bloodied as they fight for milk while nursing. 2 teeth per side if I remember correctly.
Castrate the males. Non castrated male pigs are inedible. They develop “boar taint” as they reach market weight and are aggressive. Boar taint is a hormone that the testicles develop and will make the meat smell like it.
And then give the pigs a couple of vaccinations.
I could do all of this to one pig in less than a minute. The pig went immediately back to the sow and would in many cases start nursing right away.
They would squeal during the castration part which took about 10 seconds. Squealing stopped after that.
Some baby pigs have to be euthanized. No one likes to do it, but some get injured or have some other condition. Most painless way is to take the pig and hit the head on a floor. Can’t imagine the pig will feel any pain from that as it is instant.
And pigs will die other ways including getting laid on in the farrowing stall by the sow. There will always be a few dead pigs to deal with. They need to taken out; some farms have an incinerator; some farms compost them. But there will be some.
Gestation crates are similar to farrowing stalls. That is where the sows go to be mated which is normally done through artificial insemination. If not in gestation crates, the sows will fight each other. It’s almost impossible to inseminate them outside of a crate. Natural mating are just not predictable or practical in today’s systems. Artificial insemination is very precise .
The sows sleep a lot; and yes they do chew on things when bored. Some farms will have something in there for them to chew on.

This line is utter bull$hit from the article.
“Gruesome: The bodies of dead and bloodied pigs are strewn around the farm. The sows are force fed dead piglets”

Pigs are NOT force fed to sows, never heard of such nonsense, pure propaganda. Dead pigs are NOT “strewn” around. As I said before there will be a few pigs that need to be disposed of; they may be collected before disposing off. No farmer would leave piles of dead animals in his buildings as it would be a disease vector. I have no doubt that these animal rights activists wouldn’t stage some things however. THEY HAVE DONE THIS FREQUENTLY in these videos.


52 posted on 07/20/2012 9:42:21 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27")
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I’m no fan of PETA, but some of this was pretty nasty stuff. You can use a humane killer that wouldn’t take any more time than whacking the piglets against the floor and then leaving them to die. You can at least use a sharp instrument to dock tails.

I don’t know what to say about the gestation cages. Pigs are notorious for rolling over on their piglets and sometimes for eating them. Hard tellin’ if the sows are really kept in the gestation enclosures for all of their lives and just bred and rebred.

And there’s no excuse, in my humble opinion, for leaving a sow with a prolapsed uterus to die rather than either killing her or providing vet care. Same diff for badly injured piglets. The normal “scrapes of baby pigs”, fine, but either humanely kill or get vet care for worse injuries.

As a Christian, I believe we are obliged to treat animals humanely as good stewards of God’s creation. Killing them for food is fine, but making their lives hell 24/7 prior to then is not right.

Flame on.


53 posted on 07/20/2012 9:44:32 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: Ecliptic

“All this is about is Wal-Mart is not unionized.”

BINGO... I think you have the answer.


54 posted on 07/20/2012 9:50:02 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Has Obama ever been seen eating pork ribs, or pork chops, or pulled pork bbq? Has he ever been seen visiting a pig farm? Just curious....


55 posted on 07/20/2012 9:50:05 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Ummm, pigs are treated the same if they’re going to Walmart of Publix. It looks like a breeder farm to me. Mother pigs are put in those types of cages to keep them from killing their young by trampling them. Breeder farms sell the young when they get close to 40 pounds...


56 posted on 07/20/2012 9:50:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: dfwgator
I remember growing up, we had 4-H Clubs, were kids could get exposed to the basics of farming and agriculture. Do they even have those anymore?

Yes, but not so much anymore and primarily in rural areas. There is a huge divide between rural and urban thinking.

57 posted on 07/20/2012 9:51:21 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: PeterPrinciple; All

Like you are saying, Here is a good lesson for everyone.

http://www.ted.com/talks/mike_rowe_celebrates_dirty_jobs.html


58 posted on 07/20/2012 9:52:03 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: brytlea

YOU THINK?

Great.


59 posted on 07/20/2012 9:53:16 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Damn it, I will!)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie
I can understand that present generations become animal activists through lack of practical experience.

That about explains all the hysteria.

60 posted on 07/20/2012 9:55:33 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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