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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Executive orders are just that - Executive Branch. Please tell me how the House can unilaterally override them, as I must have missed some part of how our government is supposed to function.


18 posted on 07/16/2012 1:08:04 PM PDT by datura (Democrat = Socialist, Progressive Democrat = Communist)
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To: datura
Please tell me how the House can unilaterally override them...
Start here...The Impact of Executive Orders on the Legislative Process: Executive Lawmaking?Congress and the courts have taken action from time to time to examine and, at times, challenge presidential exercises of authority perceived to be unconstitutional: from President Washington’s declaration of neutrality to the Louisiana Purchase, Jefferson’s embargo, Jackson’s removal of federal funds from the Second Bank of the United States, Polk’s sending of Gen. Zachary Taylor’s troops into contested territory before the declaration of war with Mexico, Lincoln’s conduct of the Civil War without calling Congress into session, Lincoln’s amnesty and reconstruction plans, the Tenure of Office Act and Andrew Johnson’s impeachment ... and the list goes on and on.

Both Congress and the Courts can act, though neither often do. A legislative approach usually needs a veto proof majority as the POTUS will simply veto any legislation that attempts to over ride an EO.

It can be done, though it's difficult.

46 posted on 07/16/2012 1:29:09 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: datura

They can vote to refuse funding for starters. Executive Orders can be overturned..To date, U.S. courts have overturned only two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order, and a 1995 order issued by President Clinton that attempted to prevent the federal government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll.[8] Congress was able to overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it during the period of 1939 to 1983 until the Supreme Court ruled in Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Chadha that the “legislative veto” represented “the exercise of legislative power” without “bicameral passage followed by presentment to the President.”[9] The loss of the legislative veto has caused Congress to look for alternative measures to override executive orders such as refusing to approve funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or to legitimize policy mechanisms. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order


60 posted on 07/16/2012 1:43:25 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: datura

I was commenting to Jim about why the statement that we can blunt what Obama does without the Presidency does not make sense. And, I illustrated it to him. Having the House did not make a dent in what he did to us. You are exactly right, having the House has meant little to the conservative cause. Of course, they could have restricted the purse strings, but they did not.


63 posted on 07/16/2012 1:46:38 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: datura

“Executive orders are just that - Executive Branch. Please tell me how the House can unilaterally override them, as I must have missed some part of how our government is supposed to function.”


Boy you missed the mark on this! EOs are supposed to relate to operations of the Executive branch not an end run around congress and if there were a single set of stones in congress, every EO not directly related to the operation of the Executive branch should be rescinded REGARDLESS of the president who issued them.

Even my favorite president RR exceeded Executive authority in some of the few EOs he issued.

This is not a left/right liberal/conservative issue.

If we are to believe the president can circumvent congress in this manner then there is no need for congress and they should all be fired immediately and we can just revert to the dictatorship that this half breed’s relatives are all so use to.


84 posted on 07/16/2012 2:19:33 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: datura

Please, ALL of you remember one of the most powerful of the Checks & Balances the FFs wrote into the Constitution:

ALL (every single dime) of expenditure MIST be authorized by Congress. If they had any ball, they would just SPECIFICALLY disallow the Executive Branch spending ANY funds on ANY program or process that the Congress does not agree with.

This has only been done a few times, but there is precedence and it DOES work.

They really don’t have to repeal ObCare, just defund the implementation of it.


147 posted on 07/16/2012 4:00:35 PM PDT by CanuckYank
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