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After being wrong in the same direction so consistently, wouldn’t you think that Pew might attempt to adjust their sampling techniques to adjust their techniques to avoid under-sampling Republican voters? Keep in mind the polls I have highlighted are the last polls in the race. I find it interesting that not one of their poll statisticians came out and said, ‘Boss, these results look whacked out because the electorate is going to be more than 24 percent Republican, and self-identified Democrats aren’t going to outpace Republicans by 9 percentage points.’ The Democrats couldn’t even reach that margin in 2008 . . . and you wonder why so many people think Obama is going to win. .......................They don't care they just want Zero to win.
1 posted on 07/14/2012 7:59:54 AM PDT by mandaladon
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They always do until a week or so before the election so they can say “voters broke for” and save their reputation.

You need but look at what team Obama is currently doing to know who is really leading.


2 posted on 07/14/2012 8:02:29 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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Why do Democrats, blacks and minorites fight so vehemently against voter ID with pictures? One is cheating before the election; the other is cheating during the election.


3 posted on 07/14/2012 8:02:47 AM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Polls are mostly sold to Media outlets. If the Polls aren't close people will pay less attention to the BoobTube and as a result Ad revenues will drop. Sooooo to keep the idiots watching the polls need to be close.

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy...

4 posted on 07/14/2012 8:03:57 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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if they don't keep the narrative a "horse race" no one will tune in to their broadcasts or click their links. Read the internals, factor in demographic and trends and factor for whatever variables need to be used to get the closest "guess."

Remember most pollsters are part of the narrative and are commissioned by the candidates.

Wonder why "internal polls" cost so much and we never get to see them? It's because the truth would change the narrative.

5 posted on 07/14/2012 8:07:25 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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They are setting the stage for the "The election was stolen" race riots when Ubama loses.
6 posted on 07/14/2012 8:11:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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So I ask are the people at Pew insane or just biased?

Yes, yes.
7 posted on 07/14/2012 8:13:35 AM PDT by Signalman
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They have to rig the polls so that when they steal the election through electronic voting machine hacks and other election fraud, people will not be surprised that Obama “won.”

If we really knew how wide the gap is between the majority in this country who despise Obama and his administration and his senseless supporters, I would bet we’d be amazed at how very disliked the commie in the White House truly is.


9 posted on 07/14/2012 8:14:52 AM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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When’s the last time you (and most conservatives) picked up the phone when a pollster/unknown caller was on the other end? I avoid those calls like the plague and am guessing most other conservatives do too. Libs don’t have much better to do than inaccurately influence polls so they answer... :)


10 posted on 07/14/2012 8:18:51 AM PDT by meangene (Bring on more of that "crony capitalism"...please!)
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I suspect it’s harder to get Republicans to participate in polls. Pollsters always call me at one of two times: 1) when I’m getting ready to leave for work, or 2) when my family is sitting down to a meal. Since many liberals neither work nor spend much time with their families, it’s not hard to see why their opinions might be overrepresented.


11 posted on 07/14/2012 8:18:57 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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There are many studies which suggest that having MSM on your side is worth about five percentage points. By skewing their polls in one direction major MSM outlets are attempting to create bandwagons.


12 posted on 07/14/2012 8:19:32 AM PDT by monocle
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“They don’t care they just want Zero to win. “

Yes, while that’s true, I could make the case that by cooking the numbers, they give the average RAT voter ( you know the ones with single digit I.Q.s) a false sense of security about Obama winning re-election and so they stay home, because besides being stupid, they are lazy!


14 posted on 07/14/2012 8:26:49 AM PDT by vette6387
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This is why.
15 posted on 07/14/2012 8:28:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Borg Zombies walk around groaning "Commmppuutteerrrrssss......Commmppuutteerrrrssss......")
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Republicans/conservatives/libertarians tend to have lives, and tend to spend their time living their lives, and not sitting by the telephone with the shades drawn waiting for a call like Democrats do.


17 posted on 07/14/2012 8:39:49 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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Democrat voter registration is down, especially for blacks. Independents are on the rise. There’s approx. 10% that are undecided. Undecideds historically vote against incumbents which portends a landslide for Romney.

Things will get worse for Obama because he has chosen to get nasty so his personal image will be degraded.


19 posted on 07/14/2012 8:43:33 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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Three reasons:
1) To prop up the democratic doners and give them a reason to pour more money to the democrats
2) To cover up the rampant cheating in urban precincts. By being on the high end of the polls, they can say that any result is within the bracket of polling.


21 posted on 07/14/2012 8:52:17 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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Accurately sampling discourages liberal voters from turning out while inaccurately sampling discourages conservatives. Socialists aren’t particularly big fans of democracy, so... what’s the harm?


22 posted on 07/14/2012 8:52:25 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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It is manufactured propaganda intended to discourage our side.


23 posted on 07/14/2012 8:54:35 AM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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NBC has been using a +16 Dem Advantage in some of it’s recent polling, to show Obama up by just 4 in some states.

ABC just used a +8 Dem advantage to show Obama/Romney TIED in it’s polling last week.

Both are justifying it based on “Democrat Enthusiasm”.

But, as a Dem Pollster was quoted after the Wisconsin Recall Debacle, “We underestimated the amount of voter anger out there.”


24 posted on 07/14/2012 8:56:31 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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There is no doubt that partisans manipulate polls to influence the electorate. Therefore, it’s not unlikely that the pollsters themselves are being lobbied to provide manipulated results.

However, the party affiliation numbers appear to me to be a result of the method used to determine party affiliation.

Rasmussen, I believe, uses current survey results simply asking people to self-identify at any given point in a campaign. Since people adjust their self-identification that should be more important than how registration or census or historic trends indicate.

Going to records that say Joe Smith registered as a democrat in 1980 is absolutely useless in determining where Joe Smith stands today. Better to poll Joe Smith and ask simply: Do you see yourself as a: democrat, republican, or independent? Your info is then current.


26 posted on 07/14/2012 9:00:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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If you’re watching a football game and the score is 40-0 in the fourth quarter, do you still watch it.

The fraudulent media polls can and do manipulate numbers to prevent anything like that happening during ‘their game’.


27 posted on 07/14/2012 9:08:46 AM PDT by RetSignman
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