The fact that Martin was a bad guy is not the question.
The question is whether Zimmerman by his behavior caused Martin to think that he was about to be mugged or worse.
A SUV stalking him, guy gets out moving aggressively towards him.....Martin is a street guy who sees all the signs of a beat down so he goes on the offensive.
Zimmerman is not a hero. He is a guy who did a very dumb thing.
Had he stayed in the vehicle and waited for the cops none of this would have happened.
Most states make it clear that to claim self defense you must not have instigated the violence.
So the question in court will be whether Zimmerman by his behavior caused Martin to feel threatened.
stand and be a victim...
You are making this up.
You have absolutely no way of knowing whether this happened.
Two people were there, one is dead, and the other described it differently.
Assumes facts not in evidence. Assumes “whitey” (or more accurately Hispanics) must cower in fear and restrict their own movements when a thug is about.
In short, your post would fit well on DU.
I’d expect better than that from you (recognize your nic).
Oh but the fact that Zimmerman was the bad guy for getting out of his Vehicle is?????
The question is whether Zimmerman by his behavior caused Martin to think that he was about to be mugged or worse.
So let me get this straight. You feel that you are going to get mugged so you mug the other guy to keep from getting mugged yourself. That makes sense to you.
A SUV stalking him, guy gets out moving aggressively towards him<
Never happened -- the vehicle was parked, Martin saw that he was being watched and ran away. Watching someone is not a crime and neither is running, though it is suspicious as the NEN operator indicated that night.
Martin is a street guy who sees all the signs of a beat down so he goes on the offensive.
That makes him the aggressor, the instigator, the offendor, the bad guy right there by your own admission.
Zimmerman is not a hero.
He's not a murderer either.He's an average guy who was getting the sh*t beat out of him by a thug and defended himself the only way he could.
He is a guy who did a very dumb thing.
Yeh -- he should have let the thug beat him to death and choke the life out of him so he didn't have to face murder charges.
Had he stayed in the vehicle and waited for the cops none of this would have happened.
Had he stayed in bed ... had he stayed home ... had he had another bag of chips ....
The NEN dispatcher told him to watch the suspicious person and tell her what he is doing, and when he runs the dispatcher asks him which way he is running and where is he going??? Doesn't sound to me like the dispatcher is saying just sit there in your car and be a good little boy and hide under a blanket til help arrives.
Most states make it clear that to claim self defense you must not have instigated the violence.
You just admitted that Martin instigated the fight because he thought he was going to get mugged??? Do you really feel that is a valid reason to mug another person???? Do you know anything about the law???
So the question in court will be whether Zimmerman by his behavior caused Martin to feel threatened.
Obviously sitting in his vehicle and watching made TM feel threatened. Police cars going by make thugs feel threatened, So are they justified in attacking the police car.???
Zimmerman is 5'7" short slow obese who can't run 50 feet without being winded. Martin was 6'2" lean mean fast fighting machine. Do you really think Zimmerman wanted a confrontation with him???
Yet Martin's girlfriend says that Martin had run home, and then turned around and went back to confront Zimmerman. Why did he do that if he was so frightened???
The facts are that Martin started the fight with the first punch, continued the punching even when he had his muggee on the ground at a disadvantage, would not stop his assault even when his muggee was calling out for help, even to the point of putting his hands over his mouth to keep him from breathing, and would not stop until he was shot.
Those are the facts from the evidence and eyewitness testimony.