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To: wardaddy
I don't have anything personal against you or anyone else here i diverge with as a rule

I know you don't. Believe it or not, I think you're one of our best and brightest here on FR.

But i think that you as a mixed race man fail to realize your perspective is just as indicative and perhaps prejudicial as that of a white southern man like myself is purported to be

I think about that. More in that I'm Irish, Scottish, Mexican, and yes, black. Less, in that I've never known a relative who wasn't white, that is to say had any ties outside of white American culture. I'm mixed only insofar as the one drop rule counts. Yet, the stigma is enough that in moments of cowardice on my part, I've lied about it many times. Honestly, I don't even know if I'd reveal the fact that my father took the secret that he was an octaroon (to invoke an ugly word) to his grave, if I weren't the anonymous Melas here. Yet, being nothing but white culturally, I have to question what's wrong with that culture that could compel such secrets. You may disagree, but I find something very unhealthy in that.

237 posted on 07/07/2012 7:58:59 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
I agree on the bias here against urban constituents.

But it is not groundless insofar as how they vote or think or behave in general.

Not one metro area of population of over 1 million in the US that I can think of is majority GOP or conservative anymore and yes I realize those are two different things.

Even Salt Lake went for Obama by a small margin.

Dallas ...where I think you reside...was in my day as a lad there considered a socially conservative city that went like most of the South from Dixiecrat to GOP in early 70s and had a string of conservative mayors and even a staunch conservative paper then in the Dallas Morning News.

Now that is over all gone with the sands of the Hispanic demographic surge from the south and those who have stayed.

Same for Houston and believe it or not...former conservative city of San Antonio...that close to the border but stayed afloat ideologically...just like San Diego did too once and Orange county.

This is why folks like myself generalize about how folks behave and how that translates for us all.

It's polite to note the exceptions which in Texas is about 1/3rd of Latinos and a handful of blacks.

But I don't base my views on exceptions even if I note them. It's like running a business, if you plan based on exceptions you go broke.

If folks run campaigns or govern like that they will lose elections or power in short order.

i wish race or ethnicity or religion did not matter and folks would just do the right thing that is moral, compassionate and what works best in the context of human nature and we did for a long time with plenty of hiccups

but we have been inundated with peoples who have a whole different mindset and we can see what that has done to our electorate

i know folks eschew the notion that becoming a non white country is an issue but just based on voting alone it most certainly is

everywhere where the white population has shrunk has gone downhill electorally for the GOP and fiscally as an entity

not to mention the social ramifications and that all troubles me for our future

a future likely rather short for me in context at 54 but I have a lot of children

242 posted on 07/08/2012 10:23:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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